Trump cancels Singapore nuclear summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un

[zeppelin128]

aint no way I am calling a president "your excellency"

Agreed. Mr. President is formal enough. Anything beyond that is too monarchist for my tastes.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Fun fact. When Washington was elected nobody knew what to call him as the first elected President by the population. All kinds of ridiculous titles were offered. Eventually, don’t know who offered it, but we just went with the simple Mr President.

 

[zeppelin128]

Fun fact. When Washington was elected nobody knew what to call him as the first elected President by the population. All kinds of ridiculous titles were offered. Eventually, don’t know who offered it, but we just went with the simple Mr President.

"As they deliberated over appropriate designations for the new president, Vice President Adams suggested the following titles: “His Elective Majesty”, “His Mightiness”, and even “His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties”.

That last one is like a GOT title.

 

[NorthDallas40]

"As they deliberated over appropriate designations for the new president, Vice President Adams suggested the following titles: “His Elective Majesty”, “His Mightiness”, and even “His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties”.

That last one is like a GOT title.

Lol nice.

 

[volfanhill]

Moon has an interesting take on the North’s recent temper tantrum:

South Korea'''s Moon says North Korea-U.S. talks '''on track''', criticism a ploy

 

[zeppelin128]

Moon has an interesting take on the North’s recent temper tantrum:

South Korea'''s Moon says North Korea-U.S. talks '''on track''', criticism a ploy

This may be promising news, but you can never tell with NK. They are erratic to say the least.

Also, I don't think people want Trump to fail on this. The only thing I've said negatively is that he straight up, bold faced lied that the soldiers' remains were already in country at one of his little rallies. Then Pompeo immediately contradicted that.

Best he keeps his mouth shut and let the grownups do the work. Then he can take credit for it later.

 

[Orangeburst]

This may be promising news, but you can never tell with NK. They are erratic to say the least.

Also, I don't think people want Trump to fail on this. The only thing I've said negatively is that he straight up, bold faced lied that the soldiers' remains were already in country at one of his little rallies.

When did u say that no remains were returned?

Remains of missing Korean War soldier are returned to family for burial

 

[zeppelin128]

When did u say that no remains were returned?

Remains of missing Korean War soldier are returned to family for burial

That article is from February 2018, before they met.

 

[zeppelin128]

When did u say that no remains were returned?

Remains of missing Korean War soldier are returned to family for burial

"Mr. Trump said last month that the North Koreans had “already sent back, or are in the process of sending back, the remains of our great heroes.” But the repatriation has yet to happen."

North Koreans Are No-Shows at Meeting to Discuss U.S. Soldiers’ Remains - The New York Times

 

[Orangeburst]

"Mr. Trump said last month that the North Koreans had “already sent back, or are in the process of sending back, the remains of our great heroes.” But the repatriation has yet to happen."

North Koreans Are No-Shows at Meeting to Discuss U.S. Soldiers’ Remains - The New York Times

And the Feb article predates the NY Times article.

Korean war soldier’s remains return home to Ohio

Remains of U.S. soldier killed in Korean War returns to Bay Area


Remains of Oklahoma soldier missing from Korean War return | Fox News

Korean War soldier's remains returned to America | Memorial Day 2016 | cecildaily.com

http://www.dpaa.mil/News-Stories/Ne...er-missing-from-the-korean-war-housekeeper-g/

https://www.nbc4i.com/local-news/re...tral-ohio-family_20180403065414918/1096486665
https://www.omaha.com/news/military...cle_9ddbeb14-c3ef-5d9a-8769-26d8cb310755.html

And we can go on and on. Fact is several have been, and as Trump admitted full repatriation is yet to happen.

 

[zeppelin128]

And the Feb article predates the NY Times article.

Korean war soldier’s remains return home to Ohio

Remains of U.S. soldier killed in Korean War returns to Bay Area


Remains of Oklahoma soldier missing from Korean War return | Fox News

Korean War soldier's remains returned to America | Memorial Day 2016 | cecildaily.com

Access Denied

https://www.nbc4i.com/local-news/re...tral-ohio-family_20180403065414918/1096486665
https://www.omaha.com/news/military...cle_9ddbeb14-c3ef-5d9a-8769-26d8cb310755.html

And we can go on and on. Fact is several have been, and as Trump admitted full repatriation is yet to happen.

Yes, your article has nothing to do with the current issue. It predates the entire situation.

 

[Orangeburst]

The only thing I've said negatively is that he straight up, bold faced lied that the soldiers' remains were already in country at one of his little rallies.

When did this rally occur when he said this? And compare against the time line of the articles I linked?

 

[zeppelin128]

When did this rally occur when he said this? And compare against the time line of the articles I linked?

Nevada. From last month.

 

[Orangeburst]

Nevada. From last month.

OK. Fact is you called Trump a bold faced liar for mentioning "repatriation" in June, but evidence supports that this has already occurred prior.


Full repatriation No, but is has been occurring. FACT.

 

[zeppelin128]

OK. Fact is you called Trump a bold faced liar for mentioning "repatriation" in June, but evidence supports that this has already occurred prior.


Full repatriation No, but is has been occurring. FACT.

So he still lied. Thanks for confirming.

 

[LouderVol]

"As they deliberated over appropriate designations for the new president, Vice President Adams suggested the following titles: “His Elective Majesty”, “His Mightiness”, and even “His Highness, the President of the United States of America and the Protector of their Liberties”.

That last one is like a GOT title.

I could do "His Mightiness" imagine a bunch of presidents like Teddy rolling around with that title. "Merika!

 

[BigOrangeD]

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[Vol_Doc]

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Pretty sure that's been reported.

 

[evillawyer]

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Lots of big gaps in missile tests under Obama as well.

List of North Korean missile tests - Wikipedia

 

[Grand Vol]

Wondering if this could lead to more. And wondering what the China angle is.

North Korea wants US to make 'bold move' towards peace before denuclearization: source - CNNPolitics

Continued negotiations between the United States and North Korea hinge on Washington's willingness to make a "bold move" and agree to a peace treaty with Pyongyang, according to an official with close knowledge of North Korea's position on the matter.

If the US is unwilling to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War with a permanent peace that would ensure the survival of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's regime, Pyongyang will likely not proceed further with denuclearization talks, the source said.

The establishment of a legally binding peace treaty would require the approval of two-thirds of the US Senate.

North Korea is putting pressure on the administration of US President Donald Trump to begin lifting sanctions, according to the official, believing they have done "so much" by freezing nuclear and missile testing, destroying one of their nuclear sites, and facilitating the upcoming repatriation of US service members' war remains.

For his part however, Trump has privately expressed frustration over the perceived lack of progress in the talks, according to a US official, though he regarded the testing freeze as a positive sign.

Would a peace treaty be worth the price of denuclearization?

 

[LouderVol]

Wondering if this could lead to more. And wondering what the China angle is.

North Korea wants US to make 'bold move' towards peace before denuclearization: source - CNNPolitics



Would a peace treaty be worth the price of denuclearization?

imo hell yes. not sure what good has come from staying at war with them. not sure what terms they would want, but I would be more than willing to end it that mess.

 

[Grand Vol]

imo hell yes. not sure what good has come from staying at war with them. not sure what terms they would want, but I would be more than willing to end it that mess.

I admit, that wasn't as clear as I wanted it to be (coffee, lack thereof, being the issue). Rather, would it be worth the price of going forward with a peace treaty on the "promise of negotiations" for Kim to rid himself of nuclear weapons?

I'd say no and let history be our guide. We've been burned too often. Now, if it's the opposite and we get verified and complete dismantlement of the WMD programs, I'd dare say that's worth the price. But not giving them anything until they give up a lot more.

 

[BigOrangeD]

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[Matt2496]

North Korea Begins Dismantling Key Facilities at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station | 38 North: Informed Analysis of North Korea

I bet libs are disappointed.

 

[BigOrangeD]

North Korea Begins Dismantling Key Facilities at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station | 38 North: Informed Analysis of North Korea

I bet libs are disappointed.

:good!: