The #1 Key to Jones' success at UT

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The only way Jones is going to win championships at UT is through recruiting, but his recruiting has the Vols poised for middle of the pack in the SEC east:cray:
 
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Seattle Hillbilly said:
HUNH = Hurry Up New Hampshire?
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Some depth on defense would help. By the end of the last season "the depth" was starting with no relief behind them.
 
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CountVolcula said:
will begin with his willingness to slow down his offense

Here is why

If any of you have ever did Crossfit or did the Murph, you know what an intense physical and mental workout those can be. Multiple reps with minimal to no rest in between reps. Its designed to build strength as well as stamina. You will also know that these workouts are usually designed for under 30 minutes. Its because the body can only maintain such physical demands on it for short times without a period of rest for the body to repair itself. Without this, the body can't repair what it has broke down, i.e muscles.

This leads to this comparison. Jones' offense is designed to run at a high tempo. They snap the ball within 15 seconds of ref setting the ball. Sure, this can play havoc on an opposing defense(which is what its designed for) but it can also play havoc on your own team. When you run a HUNH, you must maintain some sort of drive. If you do not and you go 3 and out you put your defense on the field after only about 1 minute of rest

So imagine playing a great ball control offense. One that eats up 3 to 4 minutes of clock, even on a drive they don't score on. That is 3 to 4 minutes that your defense is pounding away at another player, digging, scrapping, and falling on top of each other. That's a lot of abuse a body takes on one 5 minute drive.

Now imagine, you get to the sideline and your HUNH offense goes 3 and out and you get 1 minutes rest. Back on the field, this time the offense opposing offense runs a longer, more punishing drive.

After a game of this, the body gets worn. Your defense gets tired and the body begins to break down. This means more chances of injury

Even if a HUNH offense scores, its usually fast and still doesn't give your defense the advantage later in games

This is a reason most HUNH offenses give up tons of points on the defense. Their defenses are worn down from being on the field for so long. Even if you are in top shape, a body can only take so much before it has to rest.

People blame Strength coaches for most of the injury issues, but the Offensive Scheme has a much to do with those injuries. Its the reason we saw a majority of our injuries on defense.

Jones' would be wise to slow down the tempo, especially against teams that are more physical. Just like they say, the longer your offense is on the field, the less likely their offense has a chance to score. Plus, it allows your defense to be fresh in the later stages of the game when and if the game is on the line and demands the defense to make a stop

Control the ball and control the clock is a fundamental strategy to a good football team


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Gotta say count, I never thought about this. I'm definitely one of those that blamed injuries for what happened last year. I really need to think about this and consider what you are saying here hmmm...

Also, add on top of what you said the general lack of discipline the team had last year ( penalties and turnovers ), I wonder if the hunh contributed to that lack of discipline or if the lack of discipline hindered the hunh?
 
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CountVolcula said:
will begin with his willingness to slow down his offense

Here is why

If any of you have ever did Crossfit or did the Murph, you know what an intense physical and mental workout those can be. Multiple reps with minimal to no rest in between reps. Its designed to build strength as well as stamina. You will also know that these workouts are usually designed for under 30 minutes. Its because the body can only maintain such physical demands on it for short times without a period of rest for the body to repair itself. Without this, the body can't repair what it has broke down, i.e muscles.

This leads to this comparison. Jones' offense is designed to run at a high tempo. They snap the ball within 15 seconds of ref setting the ball. Sure, this can play havoc on an opposing defense(which is what its designed for) but it can also play havoc on your own team. When you run a HUNH, you must maintain some sort of drive. If you do not and you go 3 and out you put your defense on the field after only about 1 minute of rest

So imagine playing a great ball control offense. One that eats up 3 to 4 minutes of clock, even on a drive they don't score on. That is 3 to 4 minutes that your defense is pounding away at another player, digging, scrapping, and falling on top of each other. That's a lot of abuse a body takes on one 5 minute drive.

Now imagine, you get to the sideline and your HUNH offense goes 3 and out and you get 1 minutes rest. Back on the field, this time the offense opposing offense runs a longer, more punishing drive.

After a game of this, the body gets worn. Your defense gets tired and the body begins to break down. This means more chances of injury

Even if a HUNH offense scores, its usually fast and still doesn't give your defense the advantage later in games

This is a reason most HUNH offenses give up tons of points on the defense. Their defenses are worn down from being on the field for so long. Even if you are in top shape, a body can only take so much before it has to rest.

People blame Strength coaches for most of the injury issues, but the Offensive Scheme has a much to do with those injuries. Its the reason we saw a majority of our injuries on defense.

Jones' would be wise to slow down the tempo, especially against teams that are more physical. Just like they say, the longer your offense is on the field, the less likely their offense has a chance to score. Plus, it allows your defense to be fresh in the later stages of the game when and if the game is on the line and demands the defense to make a stop

Control the ball and control the clock is a fundamental strategy to a good football team


I know..tldnr
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Our offense hurt our defense.. I agree we had way to many 3 and outs resulting in our injury ridden defense to be on the field.. Imagine playing defense for a team like texas tech or something.. HUNH shows a direct reflection of why big 12 defenses are horrible.. minus tcu a few years ago. Most of those teams run a NHHU.. Baylor, tcu, osu, texas sometimes. Its hard to have a good defense when the flow of the offense is continuously a no huddle scheme. NHHU can for sure hinder a defense's ability to make plays
 
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CountVolcula said:
will begin with his willingness to slow down his offense

Here is why

If any of you have ever did Crossfit or did the Murph, you know what an intense physical and mental workout those can be. Multiple reps with minimal to no rest in between reps. Its designed to build strength as well as stamina. You will also know that these workouts are usually designed for under 30 minutes. Its because the body can only maintain such physical demands on it for short times without a period of rest for the body to repair itself. Without this, the body can't repair what it has broke down, i.e muscles.

This leads to this comparison. Jones' offense is designed to run at a high tempo. They snap the ball within 15 seconds of ref setting the ball. Sure, this can play havoc on an opposing defense(which is what its designed for) but it can also play havoc on your own team. When you run a HUNH, you must maintain some sort of drive. If you do not and you go 3 and out you put your defense on the field after only about 1 minute of rest

So imagine playing a great ball control offense. One that eats up 3 to 4 minutes of clock, even on a drive they don't score on. That is 3 to 4 minutes that your defense is pounding away at another player, digging, scrapping, and falling on top of each other. That's a lot of abuse a body takes on one 5 minute drive.

Now imagine, you get to the sideline and your HUNH offense goes 3 and out and you get 1 minutes rest. Back on the field, this time the offense opposing offense runs a longer, more punishing drive.

After a game of this, the body gets worn. Your defense gets tired and the body begins to break down. This means more chances of injury

Even if a HUNH offense scores, its usually fast and still doesn't give your defense the advantage later in games

This is a reason most HUNH offenses give up tons of points on the defense. Their defenses are worn down from being on the field for so long. Even if you are in top shape, a body can only take so much before it has to rest.

People blame Strength coaches for most of the injury issues, but the Offensive Scheme has a much to do with those injuries. Its the reason we saw a majority of our injuries on defense.

Jones' would be wise to slow down the tempo, especially against teams that are more physical. Just like they say, the longer your offense is on the field, the less likely their offense has a chance to score. Plus, it allows your defense to be fresh in the later stages of the game when and if the game is on the line and demands the defense to make a stop

Control the ball and control the clock is a fundamental strategy to a good football team


I know..tldnr
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Maybe he should learn when to use "did" and "done" correctly. Oh, I bet he does know.
 
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The key this season will be to make every down count, especially 1st down, which was wasted more times than I care to remember thanks to Hurd
 
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Our offense the last few years when it comes to 3 & outs

1st down : slant route/draw ( max 3 yards )
2nd: 9 zone out of shotgun (2 yard loss - 4 yards)( this play is almost a guarantee to happen)
3rd: incomplete pass from Dobbs ( anywhere from 3rd & 7 to 3rd & 11)
4th: TREV DADDY PUNT (we know he's a BA )

obviously they switch it up with different plays but I swear this has been the majority of our drives/one series for a while now. The offense really needs to be more consistent this year.. no more 2nd half come backs(this year with horrible 1st halves) or second half chokes( last year)
 
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RockyTopTexas said:
Our offense the last few years when it comes to 3 & outs

1st down : slant route/draw ( max 3 yards )
2nd: 9 zone out of shotgun (2 yard loss - 4 yards)( this play is almost a guarantee to happen)
3rd: incomplete pass from Dobbs ( anywhere from 3rd & 7 to 3rd & 11)
4th: TREV DADDY PUNT (we know he's a BA )

obviously they switch it up with different plays but I swear this has been the majority of our drives/one series for a while now. The offense really needs to be more consistent this year.. no more 2nd half come backs(this year with horrible 1st halves) or second half chokes( last year)
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After the 15 season I had thought CBJ is better playing from behind rather than having a lead. It forced him to put the pedal to the metal
 
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wuwh_08 said:
You lost me at did CrossFit
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Fify

Butch's offense is not hurry up no huddle. It is indeed no huddle, but coming to the line making a snap count, breaking set, looking to the sideline for a new play, and snapping the ball with less than 10 on the clock isn't hurry up.
 
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CountVolcula said:
will begin with his willingness to slow down his offense

Here is why

If any of you have ever did Crossfit or did the Murph, you know what an intense physical and mental workout those can be. Multiple reps with minimal to no rest in between reps. Its designed to build strength as well as stamina. You will also know that these workouts are usually designed for under 30 minutes. Its because the body can only maintain such physical demands on it for short times without a period of rest for the body to repair itself. Without this, the body can't repair what it has broke down, i.e muscles.

This leads to this comparison. Jones' offense is designed to run at a high tempo. They snap the ball within 15 seconds of ref setting the ball. Sure, this can play havoc on an opposing defense(which is what its designed for) but it can also play havoc on your own team. When you run a HUNH, you must maintain some sort of drive. If you do not and you go 3 and out you put your defense on the field after only about 1 minute of rest

So imagine playing a great ball control offense. One that eats up 3 to 4 minutes of clock, even on a drive they don't score on. That is 3 to 4 minutes that your defense is pounding away at another player, digging, scrapping, and falling on top of each other. That's a lot of abuse a body takes on one 5 minute drive.

Now imagine, you get to the sideline and your HUNH offense goes 3 and out and you get 1 minutes rest. Back on the field, this time the offense opposing offense runs a longer, more punishing drive.

After a game of this, the body gets worn. Your defense gets tired and the body begins to break down. This means more chances of injury

Even if a HUNH offense scores, its usually fast and still doesn't give your defense the advantage later in games

This is a reason most HUNH offenses give up tons of points on the defense. Their defenses are worn down from being on the field for so long. Even if you are in top shape, a body can only take so much before it has to rest.

People blame Strength coaches for most of the injury issues, but the Offensive Scheme has a much to do with those injuries. Its the reason we saw a majority of our injuries on defense.

Jones' would be wise to slow down the tempo, especially against teams that are more physical. Just like they say, the longer your offense is on the field, the less likely their offense has a chance to score. Plus, it allows your defense to be fresh in the later stages of the game when and if the game is on the line and demands the defense to make a stop

Control the ball and control the clock is a fundamental strategy to a good football team


I know..tldnr
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Oregon of 2013/14 doesn't agree.

Phil Fulmer doesn't either. His anemic offenses and play calling left the D on the field most of the game.
 
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CountVolcula said:
will begin with his willingness to slow down his offense

Here is why

If any of you have ever did Crossfit or did the Murph, you know what an intense physical and mental workout those can be. Multiple reps with minimal to no rest in between reps. Its designed to build strength as well as stamina. You will also know that these workouts are usually designed for under 30 minutes. Its because the body can only maintain such physical demands on it for short times without a period of rest for the body to repair itself. Without this, the body can't repair what it has broke down, i.e muscles.

This leads to this comparison. Jones' offense is designed to run at a high tempo. They snap the ball within 15 seconds of ref setting the ball. Sure, this can play havoc on an opposing defense(which is what its designed for) but it can also play havoc on your own team. When you run a HUNH, you must maintain some sort of drive. If you do not and you go 3 and out you put your defense on the field after only about 1 minute of rest

So imagine playing a great ball control offense. One that eats up 3 to 4 minutes of clock, even on a drive they don't score on. That is 3 to 4 minutes that your defense is pounding away at another player, digging, scrapping, and falling on top of each other. That's a lot of abuse a body takes on one 5 minute drive.

Now imagine, you get to the sideline and your HUNH offense goes 3 and out and you get 1 minutes rest. Back on the field, this time the offense opposing offense runs a longer, more punishing drive.

After a game of this, the body gets worn. Your defense gets tired and the body begins to break down. This means more chances of injury

Even if a HUNH offense scores, its usually fast and still doesn't give your defense the advantage later in games

This is a reason most HUNH offenses give up tons of points on the defense. Their defenses are worn down from being on the field for so long. Even if you are in top shape, a body can only take so much before it has to rest.

People blame Strength coaches for most of the injury issues, but the Offensive Scheme has a much to do with those injuries. Its the reason we saw a majority of our injuries on defense.

Jones' would be wise to slow down the tempo, especially against teams that are more physical. Just like they say, the longer your offense is on the field, the less likely their offense has a chance to score. Plus, it allows your defense to be fresh in the later stages of the game when and if the game is on the line and demands the defense to make a stop

Control the ball and control the clock is a fundamental strategy to a good football team


I know..tldnr
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If your hurry up offense is mostly successful, would it not have the same impact on the opposition's defense?
 
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ncvol17 said:
Yeah, I hate that CPF never won many games nor any important ones for us.
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I know right.?.?.?.?

Just like in 05/08? And, all of those after the 01 season when we fell to mediocrity? Like when "we didn't get the breaks"? I think what he meant by that Butchism is luck and favorable calls he came to rely on.
 
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Of course if you pair a HUNH offense with a 3 and out defense, you demoralize your opponent break their will to compete in short order.
 
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