Stormy Daniels sues Trump

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Even if it is true, I don’t understand why she would sue. What recourse would she have? Wouldn’t this be a frivolous lawsuit?
 
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davethevol said:
Even if it is true, I don’t understand why she would sue. What recourse would she have? Wouldn’t this be a frivolous lawsuit?
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She's not seeking money. She's seeking a declaratory judgment that the agreement is invalid. Then she will go tell her story to the highest bidder if she's successful
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
She's not seeking money. She's seeking a declaratory judgment that the agreement is invalid. Then she will go tell her story to the highest bidder if she's successful
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Thanks for clearing that up. So, Trump is screwed if this is true?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you think it's true? That he used a lawyer to make a payment to keep her quiet, using fake names? With the lawyer to be paid back through back channels?

If so, you voted for a felon.
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Didn't bother you when you cast the vote for Hillary
 
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Maybe it's time to pull a Clinton. Make her disappear for good with a mysterious car crash or suicide
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
The media is making him bulletproof by printing so many false or slanted stories over the past 1 1/2. Now, no matter what they print, few take them seriously. They are their own worst enemy.
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Most take them seriously. Only the people that bought into the "fake news" gaslighting crap from the beginning fail to take the news seriously. It's becoming increasingly obvious why Trump was intent on discrediting the media from day one. The truth makes him a felon and a despicable excuse of a person, let alone president.
 
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Is it all settlements typically hush money? you must sign agreement not to disclose the results or what it amounts when things are over
 
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Biopsyman said:
Is it all settlements typically hush money? you must sign agreement not to disclose the results or what it amounts when things are over
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My initial thought is that since Stormy signed and received compensation the agreement will be enforceable against her.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
My initial thought is that since Stormy signed and received compensation the agreement will be enforceable against her.
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Yeah, I haven't researched this issue since I was a baby attorney (as you can imagine it doesn't come up often), but I think the rule is that a contract has to be signed by the person against whom it is being enforced. In this case, Trump would be the one trying to get Daniels to comply with the agreement.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I haven't researched this issue since I was a baby attorney (as you can imagine it doesn't come up often), but I think the rule is that a contract has to be signed by the person against whom it is being enforced. In this case, Trump would be the one trying to get Daniels to comply with the agreement.
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Isn’t it true that both sides are bound not to discuss results or monetary exchange?
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I haven't researched this issue since I was a baby attorney (as you can imagine it doesn't come up often), but I think the rule is that a contract has to be signed by the person against whom it is being enforced. In this case, Trump would be the one trying to get Daniels to comply with the agreement.
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That is accurate, but my next question is does Trump have standing since someone else did sign the agreement in Trump's stead. If his attorney had to bring the lawsuit that would be one big mess.
 
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Regardless of whether she wins the lawsuit or not I guess we can interpret this action as the media announcement of her upcoming tell all book! Which is I’m gonna guess the whole intent.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I haven't researched this issue since I was a baby attorney (as you can imagine it doesn't come up often), but I think the rule is that a contract has to be signed by the person against whom it is being enforced. In this case, Trump would be the one trying to get Daniels to comply with the agreement.
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True BUT as a practical matter Stormy actually has Trump by the short and curlys. If this goes to hearing, all that Trump can do is come out and actually admit that he is AKA David Dennison, which obviously defeats the purpose of concealing his identity. Cohen can't claim his client agreed to the NRA if there is no signature and it wasn't Cohen himself that is AKA the signatory Dennison.

Further, Cohen can't claim that he didnt inform Dennison of the charges and agreement to pay the hush money, because New York law requires attorneys to do so. Thus Cohen risks disbarment if he tries to cop that lie.

Moreover, guilt of the actual deed (Trump affair) is a foregone conclusion, else why would he pony up a $130,000 to shut her up.

In short, Trump is totally ****ed.

People haven't grasped the magnitude of this yet. Trump is facing felony charges. He and Cohen conspired to violated federal election laws.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
True BUT as a practical matter Stormy actually has Trump by the short and curlys. If this goes to hearing, all that Trump can do is come out and actually admit that he is AKA David Dennison, which obviously defeats the purpose of concealing his identity. Cohen can't claim his client agreed to the NRA if there is no signature and it wasn't Cohen himself that is AKA the signatory Dennison.

Further, Cohen can't claim that he didnt inform Dennison of the charges and agreement to pay the hush money, be cause New York law requires attorneys to do so. Thus Cohen risks disbarment if he tries to cop that lie.

Moreover, guilt of the actual deed (Trump affair) is a foregone conclusion, else why would he pony up a $130,000 to shut her up.
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Solid points. I don't really no much about the substance of the agreement and did not realize that Trump supposedly used an alias. So, Stormy may win on a default and get out of the agreement. That is a pretty solid strategy by her attorney.
 
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"...This is quickly devolving into one of the worst examples of lawyering in history. Consider:

* If Cohen did make this payment, it’s a likely violation of ethics rules that could get him disbarred.
* Merely by talking about the payments, he’s perhaps fatally wounded the non-disclosure agreement — which is why he paid her in the first place.
* If Cohen is lying and he did make the payment under orders from Donald Trump, with money he got or would get from Trump, he probably mentioned that to… Stormy Daniels.
* Who can now talk.
* To the FEC if she wants to.

All to cover up an alleged affair Trump’s “Christian” supporters already don’t care about so long as Trump keeps up his white supremacist policies.

It’s hard to put into words how bad of a job Cohen has done here. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are better at carrying out royal conspiracies than Cohen is at serving his liege. William Westmoreland had a better exit strategy from Vietnam than Cohen has an exit strategy for this. Ron Jeremy is better at quietly having sex with porn actresses than Cohen is at keeping porn actresses quiet.

This is a total disaster."

Michael Cohen: YOU HAD ONE JOB! But Now, Stormy Thinks She Can Tell Her Story | Above the Law
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
True BUT as a practical matter Stormy actually has Trump by the short and curlys. If this goes to hearing, all that Trump can do is come out and actually admit that he is AKA David Dennison, which obviously defeats the purpose of concealing his identity. Cohen can't claim his client agreed to the NRA if there is no signature and it wasn't Cohen himself that is AKA the signatory Dennison.

Further, Cohen can't claim that he didnt inform Dennison of the charges and agreement to pay the hush money, because New York law requires attorneys to do so. Thus Cohen risks disbarment if he tries to cop that lie.

Moreover, guilt of the actual deed (Trump affair) is a foregone conclusion, else why would he pony up a $130,000 to shut her up.

In short, Trump is totally ****ed.

People haven't grasped the magnitude of this yet. Trump is facing felony charges. He and Cohen conspired to violated federal election laws.
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:lolabove:

I get so much joy watching the far unhinged left become more and more unhinged. You all need counseling
 
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This would be a huge deal with literally any other president/politician, but especially president. But there are so many scandals associated with Trump I guess we all are desensitized by this point?
 
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roosterjbh said:
This would be a huge deal with literally any other president/politician, but especially president. But there are so many scandals associated with Trump I guess we all are desensitized by this point?
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If it were almost any other pOTUS it wouldn't even be on the radar.
 
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I'm curious who will be the first Trump supporter on here to say "It's reached the tipping point, I can no longer support Trump." Surely, someone will rise to that conclusion.
 
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