STOP with the Dormady needs to play stuff-

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Let me make this example to counter: Hmmm, rookie, first year Dak Prescott over always injured Tony Romo. How many Cowboys fans wants to see Romo back in when Prescott is winning, winning, winning? Very few, including the owner Jerry Jones, who said no need to hurry Romo back, but it's Jason Garrett's decision (but the inference is "Dak is winning, don't change unless we start losing).
So don't tell me back-ups can't win. Would Dormady be better than Dobbs? We'll never know unless he gets some decent playing time. One thing we do know is who the better passer is; anybody can hand the ball off. Just like USCe, the rest of our opponents will dare Dobbs to beat them passing (because they know he can't) so load the box; all they have to do is key on the RB or QB to stop the run.


Best thing said in a long time. SKEETER please forward to the coach on offense, if we truly have one.
 
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Case in point- Worley-

How long did CBJ stick with him? EVERYBODY on this board said the same thing- he aint good enough, but CBJ played him until he got hurt. We have seen QD- a little bit, he CAN throw.

Really......4th best......you serious clark

Read the damn post- 4th best in PASSING GAME !!
 
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Case in point- Worley-

How long did CBJ stick with him? EVERYBODY on this board said the same thing- he aint good enough, but CBJ played him until he got hurt. We have seen QD- a little bit, he CAN throw.



Read the damn post- 4th best in PASSING GAME !!

Dobbs and JG were the two best passing the ball in fall camp according to practice reports. Dormady and Jones were three and four. Why would they pass better when they haven't shown it? That is just dumb.
 
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Dormady does need to start if they want a pocket passer.

So far this year they've tried to make Dobbs a pocket passer. He is just too inaccurate to be a pocket passing QB. If they want to play Dobbs use a scheme that utilizes his best attributes which are roll out passes, boot legs, lots of throws on the run, and a run/throw scheme that allows him to use his feet to his advantage.
Dormady will do fine in the read option offense. He won't be half as effective with his his legs but he would more than make up for it with the deep ball. Have we even thrown a deep ball in the last two games? Does the other team need safeties or just play extra LBs against us?
 
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Dobbs and JG were the two best passing the ball in fall camp according to practice reports. Dormady and Jones were three and four. Why would they pass better when they haven't shown it? That is just dumb.

I guess that explains why Dobbs was buried behind Peterman and Worley, because he had such a great arm- Please.
 
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Dobbs and JG were the two best passing the ball in fall camp according to practice reports. Dormady and Jones were three and four. Why would they pass better when they haven't shown it? That is just dumb.

That's YOUR slant on practice reports. I've never seen one that listed the top two at any position. Keep making up stuff to buttress your slanted OPINION.
 
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That's YOUR slant on practice reports. I've never seen one that listed the top two at any position. Keep making up stuff to buttress your slanted OPINION.

Pretty much daily there were rave reports of JG and Dobbs looking great. About two times there were reports of Dormady having good days this fall. So if the others have three or four times as many good things said its safe to say that they were better.

People used Dormady having a few good practice reports last fall as proof he is a great passer. So this year reports were average for him and consistently positive for the others. They passed it better this fall by all reports. Those are FACTS. Discount them if you want. Also discount the good ones Dormady had last fall and spring then also.

Stop trying to act like you are neutral too. You never get on anyone making up stuff about how great Dormady is. Let someone advocate for Dobbs or Jg and you want to question everything.
 
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They wanted to redshirt him. This has been well established.

And he was more expendable at the time. Ferguson was the heir apparent but Riley had a worse attitude than Hurd. As far as Dobbs goes he is basically the same QB that walked on campus. Nothing more nothing less. I actually think he performed better when he didn't really know what he was doing. He just played ball.
 
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Be careful what you wish for. The guy behind the starter isn't always all-world.

Case in point: Nathan Peterman circa 2013

Well, we don't know either way if we don't give him a shot. And the Tennessee Tech game would be a perfect opportunity. I doubt he throws as many interceptions as Dobbs.
You try him for a couple of series against Tech, and if he plays worse than Dobbs (hard to believe) you put Dobbs back in.
Also, Dormady is more mobile than people realize. He's probably not going to get you a 20 to 30 yard gain like Dobbs, but he can escape pressure and get us an occasional 1st down with his legs. I guarantee you he has a better arm. He probably knows the offense now too. He just needs a couple of series to get in a rhythm since he hasn't played in awhile.

I would play JG, except I wouldn't want to burn his redshirt.
 
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Pretty much daily there were rave reports of JG and Dobbs looking great. About two times there were reports of Dormady having good days this fall. So if the others have three or four times as many good things said its safe to say that they were better.

People used Dormady having a few good practice reports last fall as proof he is a great passer. So this year reports were average for him and consistently positive for the others. They passed it better this fall by all reports. Those are FACTS. Discount them if you want. Also discount the good ones Dormady had last fall and spring then also.

Stop trying to act like you are neutral too. You never get on anyone making up stuff about how great Dormady is. Let someone advocate for Dobbs or Jg and you want to question everything.

:cray: If you want to talk about how great Guarantano is...no problem. Just quit pretending there are documents and reports that back your OPINION. I'm not neutral. I want the best option out there leading my team...I'm lucid enough to realize I don't KNOW who that is. You keep bringing that bull you make up to this topic so I keep calling you on it. You have nothing endorsing your OPINION. Come to grips with that.
 
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Nobody is suggesting that Dormady should start--or play significantly. Only that he should get some late-game reps if the opportunity presents itself.
 
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I'm sorry but even though Dobbs played piss poorly Saturday you don't bench the senior QB who got you to this point. When Dobbs plays like he is capable he is great. I think there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff going on Saturday which contributed to a poor offensive performance and most of it falls of coaches. Also Debord needs more creativity. It seems the middle of the field is not utilized enough to the TEs.

Meyer did, see Miller, Braxton.
 
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:cray: If you want to talk about how great Guarantano is...no problem. Just quit pretending there are documents and reports that back your OPINION. I'm not neutral. I want the best option out there leading my team...I'm lucid enough to realize I don't KNOW who that is. You keep bringing that bull you make up to this topic so I keep calling you on it. You have nothing endorsing your OPINION. Come to grips with that.

All the practice reports support my fact that they werenbetter in camp. If there are 20 camps and Dormady has two days were reports say he was the best, and the other have 10 or more days saying that then they were better. That is what happened. I don't know who will start next year, I don't know how Dormady would play in a full season. I know he was at best third in fall camp going by practice reports.
 
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They wanted to redshirt him. This has been well established.

It's also a whopping myth. Peterman smoked Dobbs in QB competition. It wasn't even close. Peterman was razor sharp and Dobbs was highly erratic - just like today.
Dobbs was demoted and Peterman promoted to #2 based upon far superior passing skills. That's in fact what happened. Facts matter.
 
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All the practice reports support my fact that they werenbetter in camp. If there are 20 camps and Dormady has two days were reports say he was the best, and the other have 10 or more days saying that then they were better. That is what happened. I don't know who will start next year, I don't know how Dormady would play in a full season. I know he was at best third in fall camp going by practice reports.[/

You keep talking about practice...
 
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Need to let Dobbs go back to what he was doing last year . He is a turnover Machine this year I would not bench him less they lose again and he is a main factor in that loss.
 
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Let me make this example to counter: Hmmm, rookie, first year Dak Prescott over always injured Tony Romo. How many Cowboys fans wants to see Romo back in when Prescott is winning, winning, winning? Very few, including the owner Jerry Jones, who said no need to hurry Romo back, but it's Jason Garrett's decision (but the inference is "Dak is winning, don't change unless we start losing).
So don't tell me back-ups can't win. Would Dormady be better than Dobbs? We'll never know unless he gets some decent playing time. One thing we do know is who the better passer is; anybody can hand the ball off. Just like USCe, the rest of our opponents will dare Dobbs to beat them passing (because they know he can't) so load the box; all they have to do is key on the RB or QB to stop the run.

Yep, and tom Brady was backup in New England till Bledsoe got hurt. Tom never was a backup again!
Might be what' Butch is afraid of, one of the backups will be better and he promised Dobbs ........
 
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Need to let Dobbs go back to what he was doing last year . He is a turnover Machine this year I would not bench him less they lose again and he is a main factor in that loss.

And by main factor you mean throwing half the passes to the ground? And why wait till we lose again? If he has another game like that he needs to be pulled so we might win the game
 
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Dobbs and JG were the two best passing the ball in fall camp according to practice reports. Dormady and Jones were three and four. Why would they pass better when they haven't shown it? That is just dumb.

And someone else posted on here that JG has been a little inconsistent with accuracy !
Everybody has there on report supporting what they want it to.
Ain't nobody gut a clue who is or will be the best until they actually get to play In a game
 
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Hey fellas! I like Dobbs but you gotta admit...he sucks! Let's just be honest. Look at Hurt. Look at Bentley. Look at Delrio. All young guys outplaying Dobbs by leaps and bounds. What do we have to lose by starting someone that can accurately throw a football? It's not like they run Dobbs that much. Quit kidding yourselves...Dobbs just sux.
 
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Dobbs is going to play over Dormady till Dobbs leaves !! Butch played Hurd all year when he was 3rd best RB on our team. Dobbs is 4th best QB on our roster in passing game- ITS the CBJ WAY

I don't think most who are saying play Dormady mean "bench" Dobbs. Just give him some playing time. Dobbs is one play from Dormady HAVING to play. I along with others think it would be nice if he doesn't have to come into the wars cold. Just let him play some.
 
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