Since when did the NAACP become pro moslem??
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And there are at least a billion or so (possibly more? who knows) Muslims who practice their faith peacefully around the world.
NAACP stuff aside, you're asking us to sympathize with some jerkoff who has made it his life's work to push his own religion on other people with a different religion of their own?
Pass.
I'm gonna go ahead bookmark this thread for the next time you decry somebody using a public forum for the purpose of promoting Islam.
What does everybody think the over/under is on time 'til that thread pops up?
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Someone has been blowing smoke up your little poop hole.
What you are saying is true but those were early verses in the koran written when muhammed's forces were weak and small in number when he resided in Mecca.
This tactic is often used by moslems when speaking to Christians who aren't very aware of what islam teaches, along with the concept of 'taqqiyah' which means any deception is desirable when dealing with infidels.
Later verses negate this view and take the opposite position. ALL islamic scholars are in agreement that later verses, if in contradiction of earlier verses, supercede the earlier verses because allah had revealed more to muhammed.
Surah five defines Christians and Jews as infidels who are to be treated as any other infidel, ie; anyone who isn't a moslem.
Prophet of Doom - The Prophet of Doom Qur'an - 5 - The Food
I could go on and on, if you read the whole of the link above you will find that muhammeds condemnation of Christians and Jews gets progressivley worse and has nothing to do with showing respect.
Since he has defined Christians and Jews as unbelievers, how are unbelievers to be treated??
The following verse says it all.
Sura 4:89 seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.
How did this play out in an historical sense? Most Christians and Jews were eliminated from the Arabian penensula, church buildings were destroyed, (a practice that contiues today in many places, in Kosovo over 200 churches, monestaries and Christian cemeteries have been desecrated and destroyed,) the same happened in Egypt along the lower Nile and in present day Iraq along the lower Tigris and Euphrates rivers, both of which had primarily Christian populations and it spread on from there.
Here are some brief highlights from the history of early islam:
Islam and jihad: The first 1,300 years
This goes on and on for another 800 years until the Ottomans are soundly defeated at the siege of Vienna.
Even then one can count around ten million Christians who were killed by islamic jihad in the twentieth century alone, a perhaps even greater number of those other than Christians who were killed to satisfy jihad, expecially if one counts all those put to death by the islams biggest pardner of the century, namely the nazis.
And that doesn't even count war casualties.
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Even then that slaughter was inspired by islamic jihad in neighboring countries and the victims were mainly of a tribe that was primarily Christian.
Pusillanimous poppycock??
How is it wrong to inform oneself about an enemy.
You seem to deem ignorance to be some sort of virtue.
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But I thought you were saying there were no such verses in the koran and the hadiths??
At any rate that part of the Bible that pertains to Christianity, ie; the New Testament, contains no commands to commit violence.
Even in the Old Testament, prophecies about the coming of Jesus the Messiah have no reference to violence.
I showed you once again where you were wrong, now show me that in which I ere!
The victms and the perpetrators were Christians in Rwanda.
I never sad they could not be found in the Koran or the Hadiths. You should actually read my posts.
You are correct. For a three year epoch in the Bible (a collection of stories ranging over 4,000 years), no violence is preached. Hatred towards non-Christians is though.
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I never sad they could not be found in the Koran or the Hadiths. You should actually read my posts.
You are correct. For a three year epoch in the Bible (a collection of stories ranging over 4,000 years), no violence is preached. Hatred towards non-Christians is though.
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Could you direct me to the verse where Jesus says to hate one's parents? I'm unfamiliar with that verse.
The Gospel does not tell parents to kill their children if the leave islam as the koran does.
The glaring sore thumb of your whole arguement is the scope of violence commanded in the violent religion of islam and it's sordid history of agression that far exceeds all other religions by far.
Even current events shows that you position has little if any merit at all.
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You have a lot of balls,
but unfortunately you are squirrelly in the extreme.
The Hutus, the main perpertrators, were not primarily a Christian tribe and furthermore their violence had a great deal of islamic instigation and inspiration as I said before.
Using tribal or racial friction to forment unrest and war has been an islamic tactic for 14 hundred years.
I did read your post and have no problem with reading comprehension.
You may not have said it but you certainly implied such. That's why I said I 'thought' your were saying ...
Again, in what verses do you find hatred toward non-Christians to be espoused???
And you might clarify what you mean by; "three year epoch .... (a collection of stories ranging over 4,000 years)"...???????????????????
but unfortunately you are squirrelly in the extreme.
The Hutus, the main perpertrators, were not primarily a Christian tribe and furthermore their violence had a great deal of islamic instigation and inspiration as I said before.
Using tribal or racial friction to forment unrest and war has been an islamic tactic for 14 hundred years.
I did read your post and have no problem with reading comprehension.
You may not have said it but you certainly implied such. That's why I said I 'thought' your were saying ...
Again, in what verses do you find hatred toward non-Christians to be espoused???
And you might clarify what you mean by; "three year epoch .... (a collection of stories ranging over 4,000 years)"...???????????????????
The Hutus are primarily Catholic. Thanks for the misinformation, yet again, though.
I most certainly did not imply it. Read the follow on posts which prove that. My implication was that all religious texts can be harmful if taken out of context and literally.
The three years of Jesus' ministry. Maybe you should not only read the Koran but also the Bible. You seem to know nothing other than that which has been posted on blogs.
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The koran does mean it's statements about the sword to be litteral, 14 hundred years of history proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Jesus is speaking figuratively, speaking of the tongue as a sword to be used in ideological conflicts.
For instance Mathew 26/51-52 reads thusly:
"And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
Then said Jesus unto him, put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take up the sword shall perish with the sword."
Nowhere in the Gospel does Jesus command his followers to demand that others accept the Gospel or be killed.
Islamic verses command such ad nauseum.
On the contrary, Jesus tell his followers to preach the Gospel but if someone does not accept the Gospel as truth, then the believer is to shake the dust off his feet and continue on in his way.
You try to call me a xenophobic bigot??
Even if that were true, which it is not, it would be far better than being a fanatical idiot of your ilk.
So, Islam is held accountable for 1400 years of a "conversion by the sword" mentality, yet Christianity is not held accountable for its own 1800 years of the same?
I do not like discussing and/or debating anything with you. You are a hypocrite and a xenophobe who believes that anything that is in print that supports your twisted worldview is correct, regardless of who printed it or what kind of critical information is either lacking or distorted.
Judeo-Christianity can boast of at least five-thousand years of zealous violence. Christian religious violence did not abate until about fifty years ago. Prior to that, Christians routinely supported (either passively or actively) brutal treatment and murders of Jews, Native Americans, Africans, and Asians, and Christians belonging to other Christian sects.
Many justified their actions with Biblical verses. To deny that history and/or to state that somehow the history of Islam is fundamentally different than that of Judaism and Christianity is not only historically ignorant but it implicitly displays a complicity in those historical actions and sentiments.
I am inclined to believe that you share such sentiments. I am inclined to believe that while you decry Muslims for violence, that you would love nothing else than to see all Muslims die a painful death.
This being the case, I am choosing from this point forward not to waste anymore intellectual effort and/or time in dealing with you. I am ignoring you. Feel free to respond to this post or any others however you feel so inclined. I no longer give a rat's a**.
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Some Hutus may be Catholic but the vast majority of the Hutus are not Christian of any sort, unlike the Tutsis who are majority Christian.
Then why did you demand that he name verses in the koran that command violence??
And to elaborate further on the 'sword' and Jesus, from the same incident I quoted, one finds further in Luke 22/51 "...........And He (Jesus) touched his ear and healed him."
Where did the false prophet muhammed ever heal anything? On the contrary he left a path of rape, pillage, death and destruction behind himself his whole life, just as his followers still do today.
Then what is your reference to 4,000 years have to do with the three years??
I have no problem reading the Bible, I do at times have trouble decyphering your inane ramblings.
My daughter doesn't like squirrels so much any more after she recently went to start her car and found that squirrels had chewed the plug wires so badly it wouldn't start.
Hutu - Introduction, Location, Language, Folklore, Religion, Major holidays, Rites of passage, Relationships, Living conditions
Difference Between Hutu and Tutsi | Difference Between | Hutu vs Tutsi
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rw.html
Online NewsHour: Relgion And Conflicts in Rwanda -- August 31, 2000
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Hutu.aspx
I post these for the benefit of the others who might be reading these threads and want to know the actual facts.
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Bookmark this:
Those billion or so peaceful moslems insult Christians, Jews and kuffars (infidels) such as yourself seventeen times daily if they are devout in their prayers.
markdurie.com blog
Sneeze the wrong way and those billion or so moslems will not so peacefully call for your death for blasphemy of islam too.
Since you are so way into moral relativism and fairness, perhaps you can riddle me this; why is it that Hulon Mitchell Jr aka yahweh ben yahweh served only 11 years of an 18 year sentence and Charlie Manson will never get out of prison when Mitchell was responsible for far more murdes that Manson???
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