NSA Phone Data Collection Ruled Illegal

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News from The Associated Press

TOP SENATOR: DOMESTIC SURVEILLANCE NEEDS TO BE RAMPED UP

Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee said Wednesday that "it's beyond belief how little data is a part of the program."

I guess collecting everything is not enough.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I would like to see what's actually being collected
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Everything is being collected? Phone calls, messages, FB messages, FB messages that you typed and didn't even send, and where your phone is at. Every piece of data is collected and stored.
 
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#VFL__ said:
Everything is being collected? Phone calls, messages, FB messages, FB messages that you typed and didn't even send, where your phone is at. Every piece of data is collected and stored.
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For what reason and who is going through that data? How does that work?
 
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volbeast33 said:
For what reason and who is going through that data? How does that work?
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Well if you want to have a professional explain it to you, watch citizenfour.

All I know is that our gov has agencies that actively store every piece of data we put into this world and then lie under oath about doing it....

Think about Hitler having that type of control and information on his citizens.....
 
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#VFL__ said:
Everything is being collected? Phone calls, messages, FB messages, FB messages that you typed and didn't even send, and where your phone is at. Every piece of data is collected and stored.
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Wait...you mean my unedited posts on here are collected by the NSA?

Oh hell.

Sorry LG! I didn't mean to call you those naughty words!
 
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#VFL__ said:
Well if you want to have a professional explain it to you, watch citizenfour.

All I know is that our gov has agencies that actively store every piece of data we put into this world and then lie under oath about doing it....

Think about Hitler having that type of control and information on his citizens.....
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I will have to check it out just to see what he is claiming is going on. That just seems excessive and non-effective(govt joke in there). There has to be trillions if not more of information daily....How can they store all of it in a usable manner?
 
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volbeast33 said:
I will have to check it out just to see what he is claiming is going on. That just seems excessive and non-effective(govt joke in there). There has to be trillions if not more of information daily....How can they store all of it in a usable manner?
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It's not a claim...this stuff has been proven and admitted. They simply intercept it and store it in massive databases.

The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) | WIRED

"Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy."


This is a problem.
 
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#VFL__ said:
It's not a claim...this stuff has been proven and admitted. They simply intercept it and store it in massive databases.

The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) | WIRED

"Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy."


This is a problem.
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Yep. It will be used against people that are vocal against the government. "Oh, you think it's ok to speak out against this policy? Well here are these private texts and inappropriate emails you've sent over the years." They'll be able to shut up pretty much everyone as all people have skeletons in their closets.
 
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davethevol said:
Yep. It will be used against people that are vocal against the government. "Oh, you think it's ok to speak out against this policy? Well here are these private texts and inappropriate emails you've sent over the years." They'll be able to shut up pretty much everyone as all people have skeletons in their closets.
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BINGO!

This is why we continually see people give up their careers and lives to warn us. This is a problem, this is something that we should all be concerned with. It will eventually be used against us and it's not hard to see. Well unless you have never opened a history book.
 
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#VFL__ said:
BINGO!

This is why we continually see people give up their careers and lives to warn us. This is a problem, this is something that we should all be concerned with. It will eventually be used against us and it's not hard to see. Well unless you have never opened a history book.
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I think they've already been using it against some people in congress. I also believe they're using it as blackmail against Governor Haslam regarding Pilot's wire fraud case. The Feds have enough to bring charges against Jim Haslam at this point, yet they haven't. In the mean time, our Republican Governor wants policies for our state that are similar to Obama's.
 
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davethevol said:
I think they've already been using it against some people in congress. I also believe they're using it as blackmail against Governor Haslam regarding Pilot's wire fraud case. The Feds have enough to bring charges against Jim Haslam at this point, yet they haven't. In the mean time, our Republican Governor wants policies for our state that are similar to Obama's.
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So u think that the FBI is blackmailing Governor Haslem to implement Obama's policies so that it will keep Jim Haslem out of jail? LOL
 
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This is your government at work folks.

Don't worry though, if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.... right? lol
 
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Just days left to kill mass surveillance under Section 215 of the Patriot Act. We are Edward Snowden and the ACLU


"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
A free press benefits more than just those who read the paper."
Ed Snowden


"The more central question, from my perspective, is "why don't lawmakers seem to care?" After all, the entire reason they are in office in our system is to represent our views. The recent Princeton Study on politicians' responsiveness to the policy preferences of different sections of society gives some indication of where things might be going wrong:
Out of all groups expressing a policy preference within society, the views of the public at large are given the very least weight, whereas those of economic elites (think bankers, lobbyists, and the people on the Board of Directors at defense contracting companies) exercise more than ten times as much influence on what laws get passed -- and what laws don't."
Ed Snowden
 
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#VFL__ said:
Just days left to kill mass surveillance under Section 215 of the Patriot Act. We are Edward Snowden and the ACLU


"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
A free press benefits more than just those who read the paper."
Ed Snowden


"The more central question, from my perspective, is "why don't lawmakers seem to care?" After all, the entire reason they are in office in our system is to represent our views. The recent Princeton Study on politicians' responsiveness to the policy preferences of different sections of society gives some indication of where things might be going wrong:
Out of all groups expressing a policy preference within society, the views of the public at large are given the very least weight, whereas those of economic elites (think bankers, lobbyists, and the people on the Board of Directors at defense contracting companies) exercise more than ten times as much influence on what laws get passed -- and what laws don't."
Ed Snowden
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Special interest lobbyists far out number the representatives of the people. :sad:
 
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orangeluvr said:
Special interest lobbyists far out number the representatives of the people. :sad:
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That's a good thing in some people's mind.

Remember, a government that is "by the people, for the people" is socialist and communism is red and is bad. The banks know more about how to rule this country than the people of the US know what they want.
 
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Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Calls Edward Snowden a 'Hero' - Fortune

“‘Total hero to me; total hero,’ he gushes. ‘Not necessarily [for] what he exposed, but the fact that he internally came from his own heart, his own belief in the United States Constitution, what democracy and freedom was about. And now a federal judge has said that NSA data collection was unconstitutional.'”
 
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