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bamawriter said:
If every fan whose school has ever run afoul of the NCAA ought to keep silent, then these discussions would become very quiet, very quickly.
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Typical deflection and logical fallacy. But, but every other team cheats. Unprovable and irrelevant. But you do not understand so it's a moot point.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Typical deflection and logical fallacy. But, but every other team cheats. Unprovable and irrelevant. But you do not understand so it's a moot point.
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Well, given that this conversation has been mostly Bama and Tennessee fans, and both schools have been busted for cheating, my statement still stands.
 
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bamawriter said:
Well, given that this conversation has been mostly Bama and Tennessee fans, and both schools have been busted for cheating, my statement still stands.
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What you fail to realize is that this is a Tennessee board. Bama bashing can and will pop up at any point. However UT bashing...well..it's only taken well when pointed out be UT fans.
 
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bamawriter said:
Well, given that this conversation has been mostly Bama and Tennessee fans, and both schools have been busted for cheating, my statement still stands.
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There is a difference between robbing a bank and getting a speeding ticket. To equate Tennessee's trouble with the NCAA to Alabama's is silly.
 
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bamawriter said:
If every fan whose school has ever run afoul of the NCAA ought to keep silent, then these discussions would become very quiet, very quickly.
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Especially when the NCAA proclaimed in writing that your school as the biggest cheater in NCAA history.
 
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LibertyVol said:
There is a difference between robbing a bank and getting a speeding ticket. To equate Tennessee's trouble with the NCAA to Alabama's is silly.
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Given that the original issue was academic misconduct, it's comparing apples and oranges. Actually, it's more like comparing apples and toasters.
 
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Didn't they suspend their QB for a year for cheating? ND is losing what little respect they have left. Coaches can't police all players though. Wonder if CJ Sanders will change his mind.
 
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vol-un-tear said:
Didn't they suspend their QB for a year for cheating? ND is losing what little respect they have left. Coaches can't police all players though. Wonder if CJ Sanders will change his mind.
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Yup he was suspended and kicked off the team. He has now been named the starting QB again for ND this year. I'm pretty sure if I had cheated on a paper in college, I wouldn't have had the option to come back
 
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Alabama and auburn easily have been the two biggest cheating programs in college football. There have been in a league of their own. Bama cheats because it's alabama, the state. Auburn cheats because it does not want to play second fiddle to bama. It's a cheating tug-of-war between those two schools--and while a lot has been uncovered at those schools, no doubt tons of corruption and payoffs and rules violations have never surfaced.
 
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bamawriter said:
I asked for the NCAA's written statement that Alabama is the "biggest cheater in NCAA history".

Try again.
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Nick Saban dismisses free car accusation from Pat White
"I didn't even know it happened so I can't comment on it," Saban said. "Is that the best thing we can talk about? Kiss my ass."
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Nice deflection by Saban. That's about as classy as you can get. Almost as classy as you hanging out on a rival site every day and force feeding us your bias opinions of a cheater team that we hate. If you don't like what hated rivals have to say about your cheater team, then don't read what rival fans have to say. I don't think I've ever seen s comment about Alabama where you didn't respond in defense of Alabama and or make snide remarks about Tennessee. I'm fairly certain if a Tennessee fan went over to an Alabama site as often as you come here and took jabs at the crimson cheaters, they'd be shooed away within the first minute. If I wanted to hear someone praising Alabama and insulting the Vols, I'd go to an Alabama forum. But, I dont' want to hear what trash has to say, so I don't go to Alabama forums.



"For all the junk that Bama and Auburn could fairly have rubbed in their faces, I'm not sure that "academic misconduct" is the particular glass house that Tennessee fans want to be throwing rocks from." said bamawriter.
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See what I mean? That was your second response to this thread and you show up immediately to defend Alabama, while taking jabs at Tennessee. That's about the only time you show up. To defend Bama and insult the Vols. Because, bamawriter forbid, anyone speak the unholy name of Allibubba without you coming around to defend your lord and savior, a sacred elephant. And by "sacred", I mean "stupid".

Other than taking a jab at Montei Teo in your first comment, I don't think you've responded to a single comment in this thread that didn't pertain to Alabama or bashing Tennessee. You're pathetic and I assure you, that crap wouldn't fly for a single second with Bama fans on an Alabama forum. I guarantee it would set you off if you had to endure just one Vol fan on a Bama site spewing half the crap you spew here, seeing as you go out of your way to get upset by Tennessee fans commenting on Alabama on a Tennessee site. I've come to the conclusion that you only come here to defend Alabama while insulting Tennessee in the process.

With that being said, eat a turd, ya butt licker. Lucky for you, the love of your life Nick Saban has publicly stated he wants people to "kiss his ass". I guess he's into that sort of thing, I know you are. So, there you have it... the opportunity to lick butt and eat a turd of 'the great' Dick Saban is right there. To most people, it would taste like crap(literally), but I bet for you, it would taste like crimson (dingle)berries. We all know how you love drinking that crimson (dingle)berry kool-aid. While that may sound good to you, I'll stick to drinking my orange kool-aid without the crap.
 
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I believe a few weeks ago bamawriter was staunchly defending that there is nothing wrong with paying players and giving them cars.
 
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VolSteve said:
I believe a few weeks ago bamawriter was staunchly defending that there is nothing wrong with paying players and giving them cars.
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Actually, my stance is that there's something wrong with not paying players. And a judge just agreed with me, so that's nice.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm sure you remember Linda Bensel-Meyers.

Honestly, I am not trying to turn this into a "you cheat more" thread. Someone couldn't resist bringing Bama up in a subject that doesn't involve Bama, nor has Bama ever been accused of anything similar. I was just poking back.
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Comparison of the current allegations at Notre Dame to the issues raised by Bensel-Meyers is completely inappropriate and you know it. Bensel-Meyers used data which she had access to at UT to illustrate institutional practices of favoritism toward student-athletes which are anything but unique to UT. Indeed, they begin long before athletes ever darken a college class room. When elite public universities do not hold athletes to the same admissions standards as the regular student body at their respective institutions, they are, in the spirit of her argument, guilty of a form of academic misconduct, one that they justify for the sake of maintaining a "level playing field" in recruitment of student-athletes. Similarly, UT is hardly the only university in which athletes disproportionately major in urban studies or African-American studies. And we all know that elite athletes commonly receive multiple "second" and "third" chances that would not be accorded to the average student.

The current allegations at Notre Dame, on the other hand, are classic examples of what we normally think of in terms of "academic misconduct," i.e. students deliberately attempting to pass off the work of other people as their own.

On a more personal basis, I have never bothered to utilize the "ignore" function on this or any other message board forum, but you profoundly tempt me. You know and I know that have had your fair share of warnings from Freak; I wish that he would simply eliminate all pretext and ban you permanently. From the intellectual caliber of your comments, I know that you are fully aware of the concept of behaving as a polite visitor when entering the cyber-territory of rivals. The fact that you consistently ignore this principle only makes your "contributions" to this forum more reprehensible.
 
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bamawriter said:
Actually, my stance is that there's something wrong with not paying players. And a judge just agreed with me, so that's nice.
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And Obama apparently agrees with the murder of Christians but that doesn't make it right. Lots of judges make wrong decisions. Hell there are 9 of them on the Supreme Court and at least 4 get it wrong most of the time so go back to your Alabama pigsty where players have to be paid to live in that pathetic town.
 
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VolSteve said:
And Obama apparently agrees with the murder of Christians but that doesn't make it right. Lots of judges make wrong decisions. Hell there are 9 of them on the Supreme Court and at least 4 get it wrong most of the time so go back to your Alabama pigsty where players have to be paid to live in that pathetic town.
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You don't like Obama, yet you're a fan of the NCAA's socialist model of player compensation. You're a complex man, Steve.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Comparison of the current allegations at Notre Dame to the issues raised by Bensel-Meyers is completely inappropriate and you know it. Bensel-Meyers used data which she had access to at UT to illustrate institutional practices of favoritism toward student-athletes which are anything but unique to UT. Indeed, they begin long before athletes ever darken a college class room. When elite public universities do not hold athletes to the same admissions standards as the regular student body at their respective institutions, they are, in the spirit of her argument, guilty of a form of academic misconduct, one that they justify for the sake of maintaining a "level playing field" in recruitment of student-athletes. Similarly, UT is hardly the only university in which athletes disproportionately major in urban studies or African-American studies. And we all know that elite athletes commonly receive multiple "second" and "third" chances that would not be accorded to the average student..
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I responded to someome taking a dig at Bama when Bama is neither part of the topic at hand, nor has Bama ever been accused of anything similar to what ND is dealing with. For the most part, I agree with you on LBM, but that situation is certainly more akin to the thread topic than anything Bama has ever been accused of.

If someone makes an ignorant comment, and I want to respond, I will. If that bothers you, then you probably should ignore me, as you apparently can't engage in a meaningless discussion without getting overly emotional.
 
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On the actual thread topic:

Is there any indication that this is related to the same stuff that got Gholson kicked out last year? If it goes back to 2012, surely it isn't coincidental.
 
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