Feminism is stupid

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alexmanu said:
Greatest theories, inventions, art, philosophy, discoveries throughout history were nearly all by men. Coincidence? I think not.

Feminists will argue "oh but women were oppressed in those days", well that may be true to an extent but it didn't limit their ability to think.
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Historically, the oppression of women was real so you can't really make your statement with much truth. Just because they thought, didn't mean they were ABLE to act on those thoughts. Education was a major issue, too. Women just simply weren't educated to the level of men. Social climate (including religion) dictated that women had certain jobs.

In recent history, your statement is voided with the rise of women entering STEM careers. My girlfriend, for instance, is a mechanical engineer at John Deere. One of my best friends is a computer science grad student at UC-Irvine. Going through my Facebook friends list, 23 female friends are in STEM careers, 3 are teachers, 4 are nurses, two are CNA's, 10 work in retail, 4 are social workers, and the rest vary. Out of 78 female friends. Anecdotal evidence, I know, and the numbers could be skewed because of my field of study and the people that I associate with.

Traditionally, women's careers were in healthcare, education, social work, and maternal care. That's changing.

Many women simply quit their careers once they have children, too.

Notable women that feminists should idolize instead of celebrity talking heads include: Hypatia, the Greek mathemitician; journalist Ida Turbell; Jane Goodall, anthropologist; the Bronte sisterst, authors; Georgia O'Keefe, painter; Louisa May Alcott, author; Marie Curie, physicist; and Emily Dickinson, poet.

I'm all for hating on the current state of feminism, but doing so does absolutely nothing to drive discussion and change the way they act.

The annoying "anti-rape" campaigns and whining needs to stop and feminists need to focus on educating women about their options.
 
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#27
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You men just don't understand the rape culture perpetuated by men because, well, you're men. Shame on you.
 
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VOLatile said:
Historically, the oppression of women was real so you can't really make your statement with much truth. Just because they thought, didn't mean they were ABLE to act on those thoughts. Education was a major issue, too. Women just simply weren't educated to the level of men. Social climate (including religion) dictated that women had certain jobs.

In recent history, your statement is voided with the rise of women entering STEM careers. My girlfriend, for instance, is a mechanical engineer at John Deere. One of my best friends is a computer science grad student at UC-Irvine. Going through my Facebook friends list, 23 female friends are in STEM careers, 3 are teachers, 4 are nurses, two are CNA's, 10 work in retail, 4 are social workers, and the rest vary. Out of 78 female friends. Anecdotal evidence, I know, and the numbers could be skewed because of my field of study and the people that I associate with.

Traditionally, women's careers were in healthcare, education, social work, and maternal care. That's changing.

Many women simply quit their careers once they have children, too.

Notable women that feminists should idolize instead of celebrity talking heads include: Hypatia, the Greek mathemitician; journalist Ida Turbell; Jane Goodall, anthropologist; the Bronte sisterst, authors; Georgia O'Keefe, painter; Louisa May Alcott, author; Marie Curie, physicist; and Emily Dickinson, poet.

I'm all for hating on the current state of feminism, but doing so does absolutely nothing to drive discussion and change the way they act.

The annoying "anti-rape" campaigns and whining needs to stop and feminists need to focus on educating women about their options.
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't change the fact that STEM is MASSIVELY male dominated. Good on your girlfriend though for pursuing such a valuable career.

For at least the last century no one has prevented women from acting on their thoughts (though I disagree with the premise, they could act on them at any point in history IMO) yet men still had the most revolutionary discoveries and inventions.

I personally am of the belief that men drift to the extremes of intelligence whereas women are more clustered in the middle somewhere. Obviously you'll get exceptions to the rule. IMO a sense of risk and one-mindedness comes into it, those are masculine traits that many of the great male thinkers in history have had.
 
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alexmanu said:
Anecdotal evidence doesn't change the fact that STEM is MASSIVELY male dominated. Good on your girlfriend though for pursuing such a valuable career.

For at least the last century no one has prevented women from acting on their thoughts (though I disagree with the premise, they could act on them at any point in history IMO) yet men still had the most revolutionary discoveries and inventions.

I personally am of the belief that men drift to the extremes of intelligence whereas women are more clustered in the middle somewhere. Obviously you'll get exceptions to the rule. IMO a sense of risk and one-mindedness comes into it, those are masculine traits that many of the great male thinkers in history have had.
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I'm not going to disagree with you that men are at the extremes, but you can't discount the social implications of having a non-traditional job through the 60's (or even a little later) when women were still expected to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Religious oppression was real and still is real in some parts of the world and country.
 
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VOLatile said:
I'm not going to disagree with you that men are at the extremes, but you can't discount the social implications of having a non-traditional job through the 60's (or even a little later) when women were still expected to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Religious oppression was real and still is real in some parts of the world and country.
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Consider generations upon generations of opression, gender role assignment, etc, and its not hard to imagine why its the way it is. Give or take a few hundred thousands of years, and females could be 3 times our size, eat our penises after sex, etc. Wtf.
 
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apevol said:
Consider generations upon generations of opression, gender role assignment, etc, and its not hard to imagine why its the way it is. Give or take a few hundred thousands of years, and females could be 3 times our size, eat our penises after sex, etc. Wtf.
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:lolabove:
 
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#38
my problem has pretty much been stated, it isn't about equality it's about having all the benefits a man gets and all the benefits a woman gets. while decreasing the role/need/status for males.

i think the quick fix is to send them off to war or other dangerous jobs and see how much they complain afterwards. they don't have to sign up for the draft at 18, insurance companies favor them, specifically auto but maybe negatively in health for obvious reasons. The government supports them more to get an education with grants, scholarships and special loans where the only real distinguishing trait is what is between their legs.

my real problem is that they, the feminists, would never step into the male role they are trying to replace. they would never be the ones to go out and work long hours in dangerous jobs to provide food on the table for someone else. they would never undergo hardship or face danger for someone else's, specifically the other sex, sake. they aren't the type to put themselves in danger to protect another life, they aren't the type that is willing to outlast hardship.
 
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I think feminism that pushes for genuine societal change in treating men and women reasonably equal is a great thing. I think feminism as a political movement is completely bastardized, and is not about equality at all.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think feminism that pushes for genuine societal change in treating men and women reasonably equal is a great thing. I think feminism as a political movement is completely bastardized, and is not about equality at all.
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Exactly what I've been trying to say all along.

Making signs and posting them on the internet is only going to get like-minded people riled up and draw ridicule from rational people and the opposition.
 
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alexmanu said:
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Those women have the collective brain power of a chihuahua.
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That shiites funny right there!
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think feminism that pushes for genuine societal change in treating men and women reasonably equal is a great thing. I think feminism as a political movement is completely bastardized, and is not about equality at all.
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But..can we treat each other equal? Treat a girl like you would your brother, or guy friend. Watch how fast the Feminazism drops and the pleading for old school chivalry pops up.

We can allow equal opportunity for men and women but the fact is men will often out perform women, especially if there is a physicality associated with whatever task the genders are trying to do. This is the problem with feminazism. When staring in the face of science based defeat the feminazi will revert to tactics like saying "stare rape"..

I guess when a chick watches me pay for something that's stare whore gold digging..
 
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FLVOL69 said:
You and me both brother, by those standards id say we're probably in the serial rapist class.
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If I found a pretty woman "stare raping me" I take it as a great compliment & I'd go talk to her. Women have it so easy. All they have to do is wink & smile nice & they get the guy.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
If I found a pretty woman "stare raping me" I take it as a great compliment & I'd go talk to her. Women have it so easy. All they have to do is wink & smile nice & they get the guy.
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My brother calls it "eye f'ing". Being handsome devils we get that a lot. :crazy:
 
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#50
#50
Most of the major isms are stupid.

Feminism
Socialism
Fascism
Racism
Liberalism
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