Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Devo182]

I posted that NIL should be limited/capped on what each player can make….this is why. But I guess if we cap NIL, then we just go back to the old days where people are paying under the table…even though that’s still a thing.

Sports just suck, lol

Per @trillydonovan’s Discord: Jerry Jones (Arkansas booster) is willing to pay freshmen twice as much as they would get at Kentucky.

Does Jerry Jones think the lack of 5*s is what hurt Cal at UK??

"yeah...we just need MORE 1 AND DONES!!"

 

[jave36]

I agree with that totally. My disagreement is about the "average." There was a much larger disparity in education level then, and the average was much lower. As was the median.

Some of the greatest minds in history have come from that era. I think there's something to be said for our current system actually stifling the development of great minds because we try to keep every kid on the same level by age instead of ability. So many highly advanced kids sit around bored because they have to sit through lessons that are easy for them and they already know just so an educator can spend more time with a student that takes longer or just flat out doesnt care. Also, for a long time we've treated ADHD kids as though they aren't as capable, when in reality once you get to Masters and PhD level I'd argue (at least in STEM) most of them have some form of ADHD or Autism because of their ability to hyperfixate on a topic that stimulates their interest. The reason they're a problem/distraction in an structured school system is a lack of intellectual stimulation.

Plus people with those attributes are a better fit for academia than industry because of their personality and social awkwardness. Not that they're any smarter than someone with a HS, BA/BS, or anything but that the structure of scientific method and experimentation is a great fit for their mental quirks and wiring.

We definitely structure our entire system around bringing everyone to the middle. Heck our "higher education" system has huge numbers of people who wouldn't even make it into high school 100 years ago. And that system prevents the Blaise Pascals and Einsteins of the world from realizing their full potential.

Our average student is certainly a lot better than 100 years ago, but our top students can't compete with top students in other countries or top students from 100 years ago.

 

[LaagerVol]

Baseball didn't "decline". Football and basketball ASCENDED. Baseball network deals keep expanding upwards. Generational fan interest keeps it viable. NHL labor dispute revealed about a decade ago that their hand wasn't as stacked. Yet, their cult devoted fandom keeps them relatively stable and happy. Baseball is third in market share but players like Ohtani will be billionaires by the time they retire.

The “business” of baseball hasn’t declined (they still have big revenue, good sponsorship, etc) but viewership, both in person and on tv have declined. Youth participation has declined, although I’m sure youth participation in all/most sports has declined

 

[TheRain]

 

[jave36]

Actually a interesting conversation about how individuals believe baseball is a easy game to play and boring to watch.

It's just not as complex as some of the baseball apologists make it out to be. Farrrr from easy.

 

[LaagerVol]

Actually an interesting conversation about how individuals believe baseball is an easy game to play and boring to watch.

Who said baseball is easy to play?

 

[VOL608]

Just read where Barnes said Aidoo going into the transfer portal was a surprise and saying Aidoo told everyone everything was fine. Aidoo is a bitch. Don’t let the door hit ya.

 

[Devo182]

You realize I.Q. tests are normed to the population taking the test at the time and to some extent they are valid over a period of years. Comparing I.Q. scores from a hundred years ago to today's is probably more art than science, and not really reliable. A 36 on the ACT is not the same as a 36 30 years ago.
Facts on the ground are that the math skill requirements to graduate the eighth grade of a 100 years ago wouldn't be met by most of the high school graduates today.

70% of the country could read basic words 100 years ago and you think they'd be considered geniuses

High standards! And I get we lag a fair number of other 1st world countries, but basic metrics of education and intelligence have risen so much in the last 100 years that definitions have become more strict over time, not less. Even literacy no longer means you can merely read, but something greater functionally.

 

[TheRain]

 

[SmokinBob]

I just hope some of the Vols fans don't set dubar to high for the young man.

 

[Jackcrevol]

he needs the ncaa up his ass

 

[Devo182]

Man I can't wait for the UK series this weekend.

Just hope my head can wrap around what they're actually trying to accomplish by hitting the ball over the outfield wall thingy.

 

[SoilVol]

We definitely structure our entire system around bringing everyone to the middle. Heck our "higher education" system has huge numbers of people who wouldn't even make it into high school 100 years ago. And that system prevents the Blaise Pascals and Einsteins of the world from realizing their full potential.

Our average student is certainly a lot better than 100 years ago, but our top students can't compete with top students in other countries or top students from 100 years ago.

So, maybe, baseball was more popular then because everyone was dumber

 

[Devo182]

I prefer pretty Kimmie, as it is what it is.

Kimmeh

 

[Jackcrevol]

Kimmeh

 

[TheRain]

 

[TheRain]

 

[Jackcrevol]

absolutely freaking smashing. she is stunning

 

[Devo182]

We definitely structure our entire system around bringing everyone to the middle. Heck our "higher education" system has huge numbers of people who wouldn't even make it into high school 100 years ago. And that system prevents the Blaise Pascals and Einsteins of the world from realizing their full potential.

Our average student is certainly a lot better than 100 years ago, but our top students can't compete with top students in other countries or top students from 100 years ago.

Fast forward 100 years people will be saying "see, we can't even put out top minds like Gates...Jobs...Musk...Degrasse Tyson...Hawking...Carlsen...Chomsky...!"

1) statistically many of the "great minds" in the next 100 years should be coming out of Asia and Africa.

2) actually none of this matters because AI will surpass the entire human collective many times over well before 2120

 

[Orange.]

It's just not as complex as some of the baseball apologists make it out to be. Farrrr from easy.

Agreed. And I don't recall anyone saying it was easy to play.

 

[TheRain]

This thread...

 

[Govolsman98]

Fast forward 100 years people will be saying "see, we can't even put out top minds like Gates...Jobs...Musk...Degrasse Tyson...Hawking...Carlsen...Chomsky...!"

1) statistically many of the "great minds" in the next 100 years should be coming out of Asia and Africa.

2) actually none of this matters because AI will surpass the entire human collective many times over well before 2120

I'm honestly looking forward to AI surpassing us

 

[knoxvol52]

Agreed. And I don't recall anyone saying it was easy to play. I think goober made that up. He reduced "not as complex as he was making it out to be," to simply "not complex," then construed "not complex" to mean "easy to understand," and finally, by sleight of hand, that turned into "easy to play." I wouldn't guarantee that, because my eyes were glazing over and a skipped a lot of it, having assessed its quality pretty quickly.

Oh easy to understand ,I stand corrected. BTW I'm the damn quote "Goober" you're referring about.

 

[Orangeburst]

Sally already passed me up

 

[Orange.]

Oh easy to understand ,I stand corrected. BTW I'm the damn quote "Goober" you're referring about.

No, I wasn't talking about you. I apologize. As I said, I didn't remember.