Zimmerman Trial

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notabed22 said:
Part of the reason I love VolNation is that there's no shortage of inbred yokels with whom I can discuss their ass-backwards view of politics.

The definition of "chase," directly from Merriam-Webster:



So, yes, Zimmerman chased him.

Next.

Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin?

Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmm, sure seems like it!

Did Trayvon Martin die?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/us/jurors-hear-zimmermans-taped-police-interview.html?_r=0

Maybe I'm misunderstanding of the word "fatal" here.
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utvolpj said:
the insults do showcase your superior intellect but if you continue down this path all that will be left are us inbred yokels discussing politics without you
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I assume you haven't seen some of the insults slung in this subsection is "inbred yokels" is deemed to be ban-worthy.

bamawriter said:
So it matters not that, between the "chasing" and the "shooting", Martin instigated a confrontation and physically assaulted Zimmerman?
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My post with which people took issue regarding ignorance of fact said:

No... pretty sure that the guy chasing down a black teenager and shooting him to death is responsible for, you know, chasing down a black teenager and shooting him to death.
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And I have just demonstrated that what I said was, in fact, factual.

volfanngaytorland said:
So if you were on this jury (assuming you've watched the trial) you would convict of 2nd degree murder?
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I'm still not certain that the evidence supports a guilty verdict for 2nd degree murder... but, yes, I would convict him of 2nd degree murder.
 
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notabed22 said:
No... pretty sure that the guy chasing down a black teenager and shooting him to death is responsible for, you know, chasing down a black teenager and shooting him to death.
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I nominate Notabed22 for the dumbest poster of the year and this post as the proof....smh
 
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notabed22 said:
Part of the reason I love VolNation is that there's no shortage of inbred yokels with whom I can discuss their ass-backwards view of politics.

The definition of "chase," directly from Merriam-Webster:



So, yes, Zimmerman chased him.

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actually the definition you included indicates a desire to catch or capture the prey or scare it away.

Zimmerman's testimony is that he did NOT want to capture or physically catch TM. He was following him to provide information to the police.

There has been no evidence presented showing an intent to capture or cause to flee (the goal of a chase)

So, follow is a much more accurate description of the situation than is the word chase.
 
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notabed22 said:
My post with which people took issue regarding ignorance of fact said:


And I have just demonstrated that what I said was, in fact, factual.
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I never disputed those facts. I asked about some facts you omitted. You didn't answer my question.

I'm still not certain that the evidence supports a guilty verdict for 2nd degree murder... but, yes, I would convict him of 2nd degree murder.
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So, you would convict him of a crime despite your reasonable doubt as to whether or not the facts support such a conviction?
 
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notabed22 said:
I assume you haven't seen some of the insults slung in this subsection is "inbred yokels" is deemed to be ban-worthy.



My post with which people took issue regarding ignorance of fact said:



And I have just demonstrated that what I said was, in fact, factual.
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You did not establish this at all - your post said chase down. That is not what the evidence shows since you want to play with word definitions. Follow is the proper descriptor and much more accurate of what the evidence shows than "chase down".
 
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notabed22 said:
I assume you haven't seen some of the insults slung in this subsection is "inbred yokels" is deemed to be ban-worthy.



My post with which people took issue regarding ignorance of fact said:



And I have just demonstrated that what I said was, in fact, factual.



I'm still not certain that the evidence supports a guilty verdict for 2nd degree murder... but, yes, I would convict him of 2nd degree murder.
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So you'll convict of 2nd degree murder even if the evidence doesn't support it? It all makes sense now. Happy witch hunting
 
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notabed22 said:
I'm still not certain that the evidence supports a guilty verdict for 2nd degree murder... but, yes, I would convict him of 2nd degree murder.
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wait. this cant be serious. you think the evidence doesn't support a guilty verdict. basically evidence shows he is not guilty then. and you would find him guilty anyways. I know you lack all your brain cells. but geez
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
I nominate Notabed22 for the dumbest poster of the year and this post as the proof....smh
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Watch out there, little buddy; isn't there a chance that, if you avert your gaze for even a second, your Lionel will get derailed?

"I choo-choo-choose you as the dumbest poster of the year!!!"

Gotta admit, though, it's sort of cute to observe.
 
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volinbham said:
You did not establish this at all - your post said chase down. That is not what the evidence shows since you want to play with word definitions. Follow is the proper descriptor and much more accurate of what the evidence shows than "chase down".
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I suggest you reread the definition of "chase" since it applies to 1a, 2 and 3.
 
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bamawriter said:
So, you would convict him of a crime despite your reasonable doubt as to whether or not the facts support such a conviction?
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That's what I said, isn't it?

RollinVol said:
wait. this cant be serious. you think the evidence doesn't support a guilty verdict. basically evidence shows he is not guilty then. and you would find him guilty anyways. I know you lack all your brain cells. but geez
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Yeah...
 
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notabed22 said:
Watch out there, little buddy; isn't there a chance that, if you avert your gaze for even a second, your Lionel will get derailed?

"I choo-choo-choose you as the dumbest poster of the year!!!"

Gotta admit, though, it's sort of cute to observe.
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Nice...except I am not at work...but nice play on the choo choo...speaks to your mental age...

I'm not your Buddy...friend :)
 
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volinbham said:
You did not establish this at all - your post said chase down. That is not what the evidence shows since you want to play with word definitions. Follow is the proper descriptor and much more accurate of what the evidence shows than "chase down".
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And that's not even counting that, from the 911 transcripts, GZ completely lost contact with TM so, regardless of whatever did happen when contact was made, GZ having "chased him down" doesn't add up at all.
 
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notabed22 said:
I suggest you reread the definition of "chase" since it applies to 1a, 2 and 3.
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I have read it - "follow" remains a much more apt descriptor. Chase has conontations that have not been established with evidence and actually are contradicted by evidence.

In addition, you chose to add "down" to chase which renders the definition as akin to hunted.

In short, your statement is off the mark both but inclusion of the word down and the exclusion of indications via evidence about the intend of GZ's following.
 
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notabed22 said:
Watch out there, little buddy; isn't there a chance that, if you avert your gaze for even a second, your Lionel will get derailed?

"I choo-choo-choose you as the dumbest poster of the year!!!"

Gotta admit, though, it's sort of cute to observe.
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So again with the personal attacks and not one real defense of your position?

I can assume by your comments in this thread and others that you would be a poor neighbor and if you were an acquaintance you would not be one I would call for any sort of help in any situation. I'm sure you're comfortable with that, but if you should move to York, Pennsylvania, please let me know.
 
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volinbham said:
I have read it - "follow" remains a much more apt descriptor. Chase has conontations that have not been established with evidence and actually are contradicted by evidence.

In addition, you chose to add "down" to chase which renders the definition as akin to hunted.

In short, your statement is off the mark both but inclusion of the word down and the exclusion of indications via evidence about the intend of GZ's following.
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Follow works too; doesn't remotely change the fact that Zimmerman chased Trayvon.

YorkVol said:
So again with the personal attacks and not one real defense of your position?

I can assume by your comments in this thread and others that you would be a poor neighbor and if you were an acquaintance you would not be one I would call for any sort of help in any situation. I'm sure you're comfortable with that, but if you should move to York, Pennsylvania, please let me know.
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You seem to forget that my willingness to help you in any situation would be influenced negatively by your ownership of a firearm.
 
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