You may have to eat your words someday

#51
#51
Behr said:
....we'll all go on with firing and hiring another failure so you can be right again. Legions of the miserable are as goofy as the coach worshippers. One group thinks "we got us coach now" and the other "thinks we gone git us a good'in this time."

Big circle jerk and each group takes turn being the pivot.
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So are you here to clean up after us, or you just want to sit in the middle and watch?
 
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hog88 said:
It doesn't take "his players" and 3-5 years to know if a guy is a good HC or not.
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I can somewhat understand a coach having some struggles early when he has a system and came into a situation where the players already on the team do not fit what he wants to do. Good coaches tweak their system to fit what they have while recruiting players to do even more. Great coaches maximize what they have regardless of system and don't make excuses nor accept excuses. And they win.
Pruitt has never been a HC so he doesn't have his own system, he has to rely on his assistants and form one. So at this point either he is not able to do his job or those he hired are not able to do theirs.
 
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I feel the same way about Pruitt that I do about when my candidate loses a presidential election. For the sake of the program/nation, I hope he succeeds. But I have plenty of reason to believe otherwise and don't want to give him time to prove me right.
 
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hog88 said:
For the love of Smokey, you can't let a guy "play out" his contract. A HC needs to have 4 years min at all times on his contract or it hurts recruiting so at the end of next season he has to be extended or fired. And please don't come back with "we can extend him w/o a raise and change teh buyout". Why on earth would Pruitt accept any change to how his buyout is figured?
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I agree the point of what i meant is let him get 4 years on his 5 year contract done before making a choice. In year 4 either extend him or make the next move. My point is expecting things to just immediately improve in the first year one two in this situation is crazy. The problems in the program and roster were too deep seated and until he has completely purged the last regimes leftovers there will be problems.

One thing that can't be denied is the guys Pruitt has brought in are performing for the most part and most (if not all) of the attrition has been guys from the last regime. Butch and Dooley were losing their own recruits at a fairly high rate. Year 3 will be a big sign of what he is building and he will have a lot of Juniors and Seniors he brought in. RIght now most of the Upperclassmen are Butchs boys.
 
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Kngsport VFL said:
Obviously we are all disappointed in Pruitt's results both last year, and especially this year. I'm certain that he and his entire staff are beating themselves up
constantly over the Vols on field showings thus far.

If he eventually aquires a full group (and reliable backups) of meaty, fast, and smart guys on the offensive and defensive lines, an explosive, accurate quarterback, kick-ass defensive backfield, the Vols will win, and compete with the better teams in the SEC.

At that point, Pruitt becomes your greatest hero, and all that nasty crap that was said about him will sure taste S****Y. So why don't we give the man a chance to gather his team, teach them to play his way, and learn to be a head coach. His contract is for 6 years. Why don't we give him at least 4, before we start wanting to start all over AGAIN.
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Georgia State 10
Western Michigan 57
No possible explanation other than Pruitt and this staff being in over their heads.
 
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If it’s at Tennessee where Pruitt finally succeeds I would gladly “eat my words” that would mean Tennessee is succeeding.......what Vol fan doesn’t want to see that.

I say Pruitt is NOT the one and I want him gone.......those words I would gladly like to eat.

Many of my other words (about Pruitt) cannot be eaten even if he succeeds......because they are true and not merely my opinion.
 
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In most true rebuilds the second year is the hardest...I think we are seeing that now. I hope we see improvement in year three.
 
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It's just an infinite loop now...coach announced, sunshine pumpers and coach worshippers tell us we hit the jackpot and was the one we wanted all the time. Losses pile up, problems on and off the field mount, confidence is shaken, negavols pounce, worshippers and pumpers defend to the death, coach proves incompetence, firing, NegaVols say I told you so, worshippers and pumpers say they never liked that coach anyway. Repeat.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
It's just an infinite loop now...coach announced, sunshine pumpers and coach worshippers tell us we hit the jackpot and was the one we wanted all the time. Losses pile up, problems on and off the field mount, confidence is shaken, negavols pounce, worshippers and pumpers defend to the death, coach proves incompetence, firing, NegaVols say I told you so, worshippers and pumpers say they never liked that coach anyway. Repeat.
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Shakespearean.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
That's a chance I'll take. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, and we'll all go on with life enjoying a revitalized and successful football program. On the other hand, if the coach-worshipers are wrong......
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Some will admit it, some want. Probably about the same number that will say “I knew it all along” if Pruitt does pull this out of his a$$.
 
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Kngsport VFL said:
Obviously we are all disappointed in Pruitt's results both last year, and especially this year. I'm certain that he and his entire staff are beating themselves up
constantly over the Vols on field showings thus far.

If he eventually aquires a full group (and reliable backups) of meaty, fast, and smart guys on the offensive and defensive lines, an explosive, accurate quarterback, kick-ass defensive backfield, the Vols will win, and compete with the better teams in the SEC.

At that point, Pruitt becomes your greatest hero, and all that nasty crap that was said about him will sure taste S****Y. So why don't we give the man a chance to gather his team, teach them to play his way, and learn to be a head coach. His contract is for 6 years. Why don't we give him at least 4, before we start wanting to start all over AGAIN.
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Just a few assumptions in there.
 
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This is bizzaroworld. Pre-season, cautious optimism was openly derided and the mere suggestion of not making a bowl was met with hostility. The jump from years 1 to 2 was almost universally accepted as the point when the most progress will be displayed. Pruitt really felt good about the team, per his words. Florida was gonna be a toss up and we were going to have a shot at second in the East. Then reality hit and a bunch of those some people who were drunk on hope and optimism want to move the goal post.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
Georgia State 10
Western Michigan 57
No possible explanation other than Pruitt and this staff being in over their heads.
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In over their heads? Pruitt maybe, but it’s not like the staff he brought in hasn’t coached before and been pretty successful at it (even Pruitt at the coordinator level). These guys didn’t just forget how to coach.

Unlike many on here that are so sure, I don’t know the answer. I’m pretty sure it’s not ALL the coaches fault though.
 
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so, what you're saying is that if we can just get a team full of stud recruits, we'll be good again? wow, that's so simple
 
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BeardedVol said:
You know it's bad when Pruitt sycophants can't even fully commit to telling everyone else that they are wrong, but instead that "maybe" they will wrong.
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It's because no one knows. Most are saying he needs time. And yes everyone said that about Dooley and Butch but this program has been run into the ground. I have no idea if it's going to work or not but what I choose to do is look for the positive signs like recruiting and player development and great playcalling. The rest can be fixed. What I like most about Pruitt is his accountability. He admits his faults and works on improving. He doesn't throw people under the bus like Butch or deflect. He defends his staff and his players and takes all the criticism in public for them as a good leader does.

We can't deny the talent we have on the staff. They don't just come here and forget how to coach.
 
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goldvol said:
so, what you're saying is that if we can just get a team full of stud recruits, we'll be good again? wow, that's so simple
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It's true. Fulmer said it all the time. It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmies and Joes. Of course you have to develop that talent and this staff has proved that over the years.
 
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hog88 said:
For the love of Smokey, you can't let a guy "play out" his contract. A HC needs to have 4 years min at all times on his contract or it hurts recruiting so at the end of next season he has to be extended or fired. And please don't come back with "we can extend him w/o a raise and change teh buyout". Why on earth would Pruitt accept any change to how his buyout is figured?
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Then he takes it or fire him, its that simple. And this depends on how next season goes. If he turns things around, give him an extension, if not, no extensiion, no raise, no additional buy out. Or reduce the buy out dramatically and give him the extension. It all depends on what he does next year, because this year is gone as long as jg remains as qb we may and I say may win one more game.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
He won't be here long enough for that to happen. The ones who are kissing his ass now will be the first to curse him and blame him if the next guy doesn't succeed right away. It's the Tennessee way.
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Nobody’s kissing his ass. That’s the default for all you Chip Kelly ass kissers who fire everybody else before they even take the job. Good game btw for your boy. Blitzed the only coach who recruits worse than him.
 
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