You Can Have One Player For The Next 5 Years

#26
#26
n_huffhines said:
He actually is.

18.3p, 5.5r, 4.1a, 1.6s, 2.4to, shooting .583 per 36

Those are all-star figures and he's averaging that in the playoffs for his career. He didn't have the good fortune of developing before he started going to the playoffs. He's been going since his rookie year. He's had 1 bad playoff in 5 years (anybody can have a bad 6-game stretch).
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Lol We are talking about building a franchise with a guy right? in Houston where he has been "the man" he's shot 38.3% from the field, 31.6% from 3, and a ts% of 53.3% in his 2 years. Numbers that would have you ripping Russ to pieces. But JH has been at all star level. Lol Ftr that's 12 games that he has sucked, not counting the Finals where he hid in the corner except one game. He's been regular season great for Houston, but he's completely **** the bed come playoff time.
 
#28
#28
BadJerry20 said:
Lol We are talking about building a franchise with a guy right? in Houston where he has been "the man" he's shot 38.3% from the field, 31.6% from 3, and a ts% of 53.3% in his 2 years. Numbers that would have you ripping Russ to pieces. But JH has been at all star level. Lol Ftr that's 12 games that he has sucked, not counting the Finals where he hid in the corner except one game. He's been regular season great for Houston, but he's completely **** the bed come playoff time.
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So he's averaging the same TS% in 12 games as "the man" in Houston that Westbrook has averaged for his entire career in the playoffs as the #2. That's your best knock on him?

We can take any player and isolate a few playoff series and make them look bad.
 
#29
#29
n_huffhines said:
So he's averaging the same TS% in 12 games as "the man" in Houston that Westbrook has averaged for his entire career in the playoffs as the #2. That's your best knock on him?

We can take any player and isolate a few playoff series and make them look bad.
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I must have missed the part where someone said they would take Russ for the next 5 years. I'm simply pointing out how you are having a double standard. But hey spin it how you want. You've knocked Russ for shooting like that but now that's the best knock I have? Lol What a joke.

The last 4 playoff runs his FG% has dropped every year. From 47.5 to 43.5 to 39.1 to 37.6. His TS% 63.4 to 60.5 to 54.8 to 51.9. His 3pt% 41 to 34.1 to 29.6 the last 3. So he's been steadily declining come playoff time the last 4 seasons, so much for isolating a few playoff series. He averages 5.2 APG and 4 TOs in the playoffs in Houston.
 
#30
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BadJerry20 said:
I must have missed the part where someone said they would take Russ for the next 5 years. I'm simply pointing out how you are having a double standard. But hey spin it how you want.

The last 4 playoff runs his FG% has dropped every year. From 47.5 to 43.5 to 39.1 to 37.6. His TS% 63.4 to 60.5 to 54.8 to 51.9. His 3pt% 41 to 34.1 to 29.6 the last 3. So he's been steadily declining come playoff time the last 4 seasons, so much for isolating a few playoff series. He averages 5.2 APG and 4 TOs in the playoffs in Houston.
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I don't get what the double standard is?
 
#32
#32
BadJerry20 said:
Has he sucked in Houston come playoff time?
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He's been average. One year he had too many turnovers. the other he shot slightly below league average. Besides, my expressed opinion was based on his entire playoff career.

I think you said I would torch Russ if he played the same way. Their numbers aren't comparable. Harden shot .519 last year. By far his worst shooting playoff. Russ has shot worse than that 3 times. Harden averaged 4+ turnovers 2 years ago. By far his worst playoff. Russ has done that 3 times.

There is no double standard when the numbers determine your position.
 
#33
#33
He was the third option in OKC so naturally his %s will be better. We are talking about starting a franchise, he's been by your admission average in the playoffs with Houston. Not sure in what world 38.3% FGs 31.6% 3s is average, but ok. I mean you have done nothing but praise Russ for shooting like that, so no double standard obviously.

Funny that you bring up TOs. In Houston as the primary ball handler. JH in the playoffs 5.2APG and 4TOs or a 1.29 a/to ratio. Russ has never had an A/TO ratio that bad in the playoffs. 6.7 APG and 3.6TOs or a 1.88 A/TO ratio for his career.

JH has sucked come playoff time since the finals.
 
#34
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BadJerry20 said:
He was the third option in OKC so naturally his %s will be better. We are talking about starting a franchise, he's been by your admission average in the playoffs with Houston. Not sure in what world 38.3% FGs 31.6% 3s is average, but ok. I mean you have done nothing but praise Russ for shooting like that, so no double standard obviously.

Funny that you bring up TOs. In Houston as the primary ball handler. JH in the playoffs 5.2APG and 4TOs or a 1.29 a/to ratio. Russ has never had an A/TO ratio that bad in the playoffs. 6.7 APG and 3.6TOs or a 1.88 A/TO ratio for his career.

JH has sucked come playoff time since the finals, he has decreased his %s for 4 straight years.
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That's not a valid assumption.

His FTs brought up his %. Don't take those away cause without counting FTs, Westbrook is horrendously inefficient.

PGs have much higher a:to ratios than SGs do.
 
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#35
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n_huffhines said:
That's not a valid assumption.

His FTs brought up his %. Don't take those away cause without counting FTs, Westbrook is horrendously inefficient.

PGs have much higher a:to ratios than SGs do.
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Its pretty basic basketball knowledge that if you are the third option you get less attention, so easier shots. Oh wait that's the problem.

Nice spin move. Without FTs the last 2 years in the playoffs he's still more efficient than JH.

On that note I'm done, since I had to listen to you babble about Korvers stellar A/TO ratio. Now its a position thing. You do know JH basically is the PG? Wait you have to watch to know that.
 
#36
#36
If it doesn't fit the narrative then it doesn't matter. You know that by now jerry
 
#39
#39
BadJerry20 said:
Its pretty basic basketball knowledge that if you are the third option you get less attention, so easier shots. Oh wait that's the problem.
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Yet the numbers don't back up this false assumption. You might get less attention, but you also get few screens and plays drawn up for you that result in good looks. It balances out.

Since we're talking about Harden, why not look at his numbers? In 200 games in OKC he shot .603. In 228 games in Houston, he shot .608.

Kevin Love is having his worst shooting year (not counting broken hand partial season) after going from first to third option. The assumption does not hold up.

Nice spin move. Without FTs the last 2 years in the playoffs he's still more efficient than JH.
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I'm not talking about the last 2 years. I've always been talking about careers.

On that note I'm done, since I had to listen to you babble about Korvers stellar A/TO ratio. Now its a position thing.
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lulz...First, Korver doesn't have a better a:to ratio than Westbrook, because he's not a PG. He has a good a:to ratio for a SG. He has an excellent turnover rate for a SG.

You look for inconsistencies in things I say, and I am sure there are some, but mostly the inconsistencies are inferred out of misunderstanding, or made up out of mis-remembrance.
 
#40
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BadJerry20 said:
At least there is no double standard for players he likes vs ones he doesn't.
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The numbers say it all. This is a criticism that can be made about virtually every basketball fan in the world, except the ones that let stats dictate their opinion. The irony is palpable.
 
#41
#41
Lol such much dumb in that post, but I said I was done so I'm done. Sure thing Huff cause I'm the only person that notices you inconsistencies. I'm just the only idiot dumb enough to engage you in conversation. Have a good day buddy.
 
#42
#42
BadJerry20 said:
Lol such much dumb in that post, but I said I was done so I'm done. Sure thing Huff cause I'm the only person that notices you inconsistencies. I'm just the only idiot dumb enough to engage you in conversation. Have a good day buddy.
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#44
#44
Don't go emo on me. I need you to keep your head. Playoffs are coming.
 
#48
#48
KD if I knew if his foot was doing to hold out. If not then AD, then Curry, the Westbrook in that order.
 
#50
#50
We had a discussion about Harden in the playoffs and he's really stepped up this year.

26.7/8.0/4.8/1.3/0.3

42.6 FG%
36.7 3P% on 6.6 attempts
93.6 FT% on 10.3 attempts

I'm curious to see if he has a big series against Golden State. I think he does. If Houston had Beverly and D-Mo, I'd pick them to beat the Warriors.
 
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