Yesterday...was anything really accomplished? Really?

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As I woke up today I was eager to check and see what was going with my beloved Vols. So I did. I honestly expected after yesterday there would be some serious changes made in Knoxville. I mean when something as insignificant as a coaching change at a university makes it to Washington DC, thats pretty crazy.

Alas, nothing has really happened. So it got me thinking, what have we really accomplished? We blocked Schiano coming and I get thats a good thing. But unless I missed something, people like Currie, Davenport and the Haslams are still with Tennessee. Davenport has given her support of Currie, which effectively means he is here to stay. We know the Dukes love Currie. There is no feasible way to remove the Dukes from Tennessee. So where do we stand now?

Here are my thoughts on where we stand. I think by retaining Currie, it sends a bad message. Now, virtually any coach thats hired will know that he was a backup plan. They may feel like Currie settled, for a lack of a better term, for them. I mean lets say Tee is interviewed. Would he honestly feel like he had full support from Currie if he came? Doubtful. I believe our dram of getting a top flight coach is completely dead in the water as long as people like the Dukes are associated with Tennessee.

Sorry for the long post.
 
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What did you expect Currie to be fired today?
Now its a case of I'll hire anybody and if he doesn't win at least he is of high moral standing
 
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Or the exact opposite in the case of Tee. Fan base was eager enough to have a UT guy in charge. This story can be spun a thousand different ways.
 
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Yesterday was a good start. But it was ONLY a start - we only eradicated a symptom of the real problem. Until we remove the etiology of the real issue , UT Athletics will continue to suffer and be only mediocre at best
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
As I woke up today I was eager to check and see what was going with my beloved Vols. So I did. I honestly expected after yesterday there would be some serious changes made in Knoxville. I mean when something as insignificant as a coaching change at a university makes it to Washington DC, thats pretty crazy.

Alas, nothing has really happened. So it got me thinking, what have we really accomplished? We blocked Schiano coming and I get thats a good thing. But unless I missed something, people like Currie, Davenport and the Haslams are still with Tennessee. Davenport has given her support of Currie, which effectively means he is here to stay. We know the Dukes love Currie. There is no feasible way to remove the Dukes from Tennessee. So where do we stand now?

Here are my thoughts on where we stand. I think by retaining Currie, it sends a bad message. Now, virtually any coach thats hired will know that he was a backup plan. They may feel like Currie settled, for a lack of a better term, for them. I mean lets say Tee is interviewed. Would he honestly feel like he had full support from Currie if he came? Doubtful. I believe our dram of getting a top flight coach is completely dead in the water as long as people like the Dukes are associated with Tennessee.

Sorry for the long post.
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Well, there is a silver lining to this that isn't being talked about. If we offered Schiano, then we surely didn't offer him very much. Probably about 4 mil a year or something. That leaves the possibility that the next best option for the AD/Boosters to save face is to pony up for a more expensive hire. That would re-open the possibilities of a 7 mil a year Petersen contract or something similar.

I don't think that's necessarily likely, but Schiano certainly wasn't a top dollar hire, leaving that door still open.
 
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What Currie did was career suicide, especially if it’s true that Shiano was second in line behind Mullen.

After Jones was fired everyone said a Shiano hire would never happen. They said that because it was absurd and didn’t think Currie was that tone deaf and stupid.

One thing that I think will happen is who ever is hired will be received well and viewed as king of the castle. Vol Nation knows we averted a disaster hire and anyone would be better.
 
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Makes me sick that Florida got Mullen.

We won’t beat them for 10 more years. Give him a roster full of 4 and 5 stars and he will kick our arse for years.
 
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Well, we kept a loser out of Knoxville, potentially avoiding another 10 years of irrelevance.

What we do next is the part that matters.
 
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Alabama once signed coach mike price during their ncaa sanctions. He never coached a game and was fired. Alabama lived to see another day and eventually hired Saban. We will get through this dark time also.
 
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dougvolfan said:
Alabama once signed coach mike price during their ncaa sanctions. He never coached a game and was fired. Alabama lived to see another day and eventually hired Saban. We will get through this dark time also.
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Thank you for the truth. :clapping:To get there Bama supposedly told a major booster he would have no say any more and they went and got Saban. TN must do the same and tell the booster to be quite and go make a football hire.
 
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dougvolfan said:
Alabama once signed coach mike price during their ncaa sanctions. He never coached a game and was fired. Alabama lived to see another day and eventually hired Saban. We will get through this dark time also.
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A few years ago didn’t that same thing happen at Notre Dame? Hired a guy and fired him before he ever coached? He lied on his resume or something.
 
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Volhoops said:
Thank you for the truth. :clapping:To get there Bama supposedly told a major booster he would have no say any more and they went and got Saban. TN must do the same and tell the booster to be quite and go make a football hire.
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I'm afraid we are minimal 3 to 5 years away from this. Not sure I can last that long.
 
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illinoisvolfan1 said:
A few years ago didn’t that same thing happen at Notre Dame? Hired a guy and fired him before he ever coached? He lied on his resume or something.
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it happenned at pit. They hired the miami of ohio staff and headcoach ended up being involved in a domestic with his wife and was not the guilty party, pitt renigged before he ever showed up. Have a close friend who was part of that staff and still hasnt recovered. Calls plays for a 3a school in illinois. Crazy how cutthroat this business can be.
 
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