Yeah, These "Outsider" Coaches Are Killing SEC Football.

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#51
Ohio Vol said:
I'm trying to think of what would become of ol' Hat if I ever found my way down SEC way as a coach. I'd imagine it'd be something like this.

"I don't know how in the name of Cale Yarborough they did it, but somebody wanted to hire the biggest gravel-mouthed hilljack this side of Porter Wagoner. I don't know why they think he'll win games when he's too busy shucking corn and shoeing the horses to actually recruit."
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Freakin' gold right there. :eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
#53
#53
jed said:
I believe a lot of that has to do with Oklahoma and Texas rising in the big 12. Recruiting took a hit in Nebraska when those 2 programs fired up. Besides all that Nebraska is tough to beat even on a bad year.
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If they would've found a good replacement for Osborne then they wouldn't have lost a step IMO.
Nebraska was a machine in the 90's. Even kids down here in Georgia wanted to go there.
 
#54
#54
Ohio Vol...funny

Eric...I don't think this is the basis behind your defense...but you seem to be pulling for the Cookeville boy fairly hard considering your common background. :)
 
#56
#56
Alley said:
A good way to measure a coaches worth is to ask yourself would you want him to be HC at your school.

In the case of MB, I wouldn't. Pull that man out of Texas and you'd see a rapid accumulation of losses.
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He did pretty well at UNC, had them in the top 5 at one point...he is a good coach, he is sitting on kimberlite pipe when it comes to recruiting but that isn't his fault...not his fault that his best player and leader of his team goes down at the beginning of the game either.
 
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#57
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Looking back at that thread, it seems as Lex was drinking what I was at the time. :lol:
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Thanks....Eric.

I don't have any love at all for Texas, but I can't say I'm pleased with last night's results. Right now the best college football coach in the country coaches my least favorite team.
 
#58
#58
Had St. Nick stayed at LSU..would Urb have lived to see 45? I dont think he would of had as many rings.
 
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#60
TennTradition said:
Ohio Vol...funny

Eric...I don't think this is the basis behind your defense...but you seem to be pulling for the Cookeville boy fairly hard considering your common background. :)
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Your right, it doesn't have anything to do with it. The man's a great coach, or he wouldn't be half as successful as he's been. Look at the assistants come and go, yet still has 10 wins a year. That's pretty good.
 
#62
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Your right, it doesn't have anything to do with it. The man's a great coach, or he wouldn't be half as successful as he's been. Look at the assistants come and go, yet still has 10 wins a year. That's pretty good.
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He is Fulmer with better recruits. 12 years, 2 Conference titles, I NC
 
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VolDad said:
He is Fulmer with better recruits. 12 years, 2 Conference titles, I NC
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He's nothing like Fulmer, not even close. I'm starting to believe that any coach over the age of 55-60, you guys are going to bash into the ground until there gone and then root for their younger replacements. That's a pretty constant theme with some of you.
 
#65
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I would say that Pete Carrol does, but that's beside the point. .
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pete carrol has actual competition for california recruits. UCLA is in his own back yard for christ sake. what's brown's competition? oklahoma? is that really competition in a state where everyone grows up to be a texas fan?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He's nothing like Fulmer, not even close. I'm starting to believe that any coach over the age of 55-60, you guys are going to bash into the ground until there gone and then root for their younger replacements. That's a pretty constant theme with some of you.
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What does age have to do with it? That is like me saying, I think you are critical of young coaches when you said of Kiffin, “ Think he leached on to the success of the in-state recruiting of USC. I think Kiffin is given more credit than he deserves there.”
 
#67
#67
VolDad said:
What does age have to do with it? That is like me saying, I think you are critical of young coaches when you said of Kiffin, “ Think he leached on to the success of the in-state recruiting of USC. I think Kiffin is given more credit than he deserves there.”
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I was obviously wrong about Kiffin, but yet have never been critical of him that I can remember, and you guys are wrong about Brown. Brown has a job, and Fulmer doesn't. End of story.
 
#68
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rmsmith said:
If they would've found a good replacement for Osborne then they wouldn't have lost a step IMO.
Nebraska was a machine in the 90's. Even kids down here in Georgia wanted to go there.
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Yes, but successors to legends (in this case, Osborne) rarely enjoy the success that their predecessors achieved. When you think about it, Nebraska's small population and extremely limited instate recruiting pool make it more comparable to Tennessee's challenges than those faced by any other traditional power. Unlike Oklahoma, Nebraska cannnot simply compensate for a lack of homegrown talent by raiding its next door neighbor (Texas), all of which makes the longterm success of Devaney and Osborne even more remarkable. Finally, the post-Osborne drought was exacerbated by Bill Callahan's (if I remember correctly) ill-fated attempt to instantaneously transform Nebraska's offense from a power running game to 40 pass attempts per game.
 
#69
#69
Alley said:
A good way to measure a coaches worth is to ask yourself would you want him to be HC at your school.

In the case of MB, I wouldn't. Pull that man out of Texas and you'd see a rapid accumulation of losses.
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.....for Texas, good point. Lol (throw out objectivity when you log in I guess)
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#70
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hatvol96 said:
The league has got to go back to hiring marble mouthed 'necks like Fulmer and Mike Dubose if the SEC is ever going to achieve prominence again. These interlopers are killing the conference.
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The SEC's won the last four National Championships. How much more prominent do we need to be?
 
#73
#73
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I was obviously wrong about Kiffin, but yet have never been critical of him that I can remember, and you guys are wrong about Brown. Brown has a job, and Fulmer doesn't. End of story.
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Closet OU fans on this board, you will just have to ignore that. They also forget that he dramatically turned around a recruiting "powerhouse" like North Carolina from two 1-10 seasons in his first two years to a 10-2 and 10-1 season respectively. Now I'm not a Texas fan by any stretch of the imagination and like Saban a whole lot more then Brown. I don't know the entire story that some of these members claim to know, but the man is smart enough to find excellent assistant coaches that have stayed with him and that is why he has have succeeded among other reasons[Recruiting]. And that story is no different than a lot of other coaches: Carroll who has no idea how to run a offense, Tubbs, Bobby Bowden, Joe Pa, etc. Excellent managers who have bright assistant coaches.
 
#74
#74
bam15 said:
Closet OU fans on this board, you will just have to ignore that. They also forget that he dramatically turned around a recruiting "powerhouse" like North Carolina from two 1-10 seasons in his first two years to a 10-2 and 10-1 season respectively.
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He was there for a decade and never won a title in a conference with one good team. He never beat Florida State. He's good, and it seems like he used Vince Young's success to work harder and bring in better recruits. Other than that, he's not that great.
 
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#75
jradakov said:
The SEC's won the last four National Championships. How much more prominent do we need to be?
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Where are the coaches who won those titles from? The ability to recognize sarcasm is an acquired skill. Work on it.
 
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