Ya know who would be incredible in a 3-4 defense?

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You need a boss nasty DT to run a 3-4. A true metal eating Nose Tackle. Tennessee.....doesn't have that....unless you are saying he would be that nasty NT.
 
#6
#6
he would play olb. Ben Martin has the perfect frame for the outside linebacker spot in a 3-4, and also the speed. Chris Walker fits the mold well too.
 
#7
#7
UT isnt gonna run a 3-4.. I would love to run one with our talent at LB.. but we just dont have the efficiency at DL except for X-man...
 
#8
#8
We have gotten several threads about this, but I could possibly see the 34 as a change of pace to throw a different look at a team like Florida when they start running the Spread Option.
 
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GAVol said:
We have gotten several threads about this, but I could possibly see the 34 as a change of pace to throw a different look at a team like Florida when they start running the Spread Option.
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Exactly. Chavis loves doing new things, and running wierd defenses. The 3-4 will allow him to be more creative with blitzing schemes. Also, he was the first d-coordinator to introduce the 4-3 to the SEC, and he may be the first to introduce the 3-4.
 
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emainvol said:
i would think he would have to play ILB, but maybe my understanding of the 3-4 is a bit off.
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nah he would play OLB because they tend to be the better pass rushers. That's why you have guys that are tweeners between DE and OLB like Joey Porter, Demarcus Ware, Leonard Little, etc.
 
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lacrossepro70 said:
nah he would play OLB because they tend to be the better pass rushers. That's why you have guys that are tweeners between DE and OLB like Joey Porter, Demarcus Ware, Leonard Little, etc.
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martin would probably have to drop some weight and become a bit more agile, but i can see what you are saying.
 
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Business said:
You need a boss nasty DT to run a 3-4. A true metal eating Nose Tackle. Tennessee.....doesn't have that....unless you are saying he would be that nasty NT.
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Saban (who is a great defensive coach) at Bama has gone to the 3-4 and I don't see any superstar DT's on his roster.
 
#18
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The 3-4 is only effective if you keep the center and the guards off of the linebackers so that they are free to scrape and make plays. Sometimes you can create assignment problems at the line of scrimmage, but you are still counting on your linebackers moving freely.
 
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Business said:
You need a boss nasty DT to run a 3-4. A true metal eating Nose Tackle. Tennessee.....doesn't have that....unless you are saying he would be that nasty NT.
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I tend to agree with this statement. On all accounts (you need one, and Tennessee doesn't have one).

I also would like to see how it would work against Florida, but I have a feeling it wouldn't be that great.
I think their spread option might be very effective against it... run up the gut for 3-4 yds per carry, get the LBs into rushing the pit, and then just fall back into dropping short passes right over the line. Alternate as necessary.

But.. I'm an armchair coach, so.. I'll just sit back and watch to see what happens if we use 3-4 against UF.
 
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Lexvol said:
The 3-4 is only effective if you keep the center and the guards off of the linebackers so that they are free to scrape and make plays. Sometimes you can create assignment problems at the line of scrimmage, but you are still counting on your linebackers moving freely.
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Exactly. With a 3-4, d-linemen are responsible for 2 gap assignments, and that requires experience as well as size at end. This is something we don't have, so unless there is a total personnel change at DE, a regular 3-4 isn't likely. We will run the 3-4, I think, in spurts as well as Chavis' chaos defense, where the linemen play straight up, moving around.
 
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The Dude said:
Exactly. With a 3-4, d-linemen are responsible for 2 gap assignments, and that requires experience as well as size at end. This is something we don't have, so unless there is a total personnel change at DE, a regular 3-4 isn't likely. We will run the 3-4, I think, in spurts as well as Chavis' chaos defense, where the linemen play straight up, moving around.
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That problem is also compounded by the fact that we have no true MLB. From what I saw last year the LBs weren't "great" at getting off of blocks. They have decent speed, but they are awfully small compared to OL in the SEC.
 
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GAVol said:
We have gotten several threads about this, but I could possibly see the 34 as a change of pace to throw a different look at a team like Florida when they start running the Spread Option.
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I was thinking the same, and agree Ben Martin would make a good OLB in a 3-4.

Chavis may be looking at using the 3-4 against passing teams or option teams and then use a 4-3 against running teams. UT hasn't played well against the option using a 4-3. If Chavis thinks his players can learn learn both defenses by September.
 
#23
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If Tennessee ran the 3-4 with it's current personel.......well I was thinking it would be real bad, but I mean how much worse could you get from the running D from 2006? Therefore, throw a bone.
 
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The Dude said:
Exactly. With a 3-4, d-linemen are responsible for 2 gap assignments, and that requires experience as well as size at end. This is something we don't have, so unless there is a total personnel change at DE, a regular 3-4 isn't likely. We will run the 3-4, I think, in spurts as well as Chavis' chaos defense, where the linemen play straight up, moving around.
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Technically, in the 3-4, you need a 2-gap NT. The DEs don't need to be 2 gappers. In fact, the terms 1 gap and 2 gap are only used for defensive tackles. DEs either, depending on what coach wants, or how the play develops, need to make a tackle or eat one defender.
 
#25
#25
I wanna see that "Prowler" Defense that we ran a few years ago- were the linebackers shuffle in the back field, patrolling like a pack of rabid hyenas!!
 
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