WWE Thread III

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volfanbill said:
But if you give him a three month push with struggles built in instead, then have him face Reigns at SS, the story is infinitely better
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I agree that he should have been booked better, and given the fact that he became the number one contender the next night, he should have beat Jericho at Wrestlemania. Maybe they should have given him one more feud before putting him in the title picture. My only point was that I think he is deserving.
 
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volfanbill said:
But if you give him a three month push with struggles built in instead, then have him face Reigns at SS, the story is infinitely better
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Who's to say this isn't just a small part of a longer story. Being in the title picture and winning the title are completely different things. There's a 0.0% chance AJ wins on Sunday. He could climb back and win later in the year and it be an incredible story. It's difficult to judge a guys story arc when it's in its infancy.
 
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volfanbill said:
They were booing the story. And we're ecstatic when Bryan won. One of the biggest moments in WWE history. However it happened, it worked out right by every way you look at it.
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I agree, but what I'm saying is a lot of fans don't want to let stories build. They built that story, be it by accident or by "guilt" or whatever you want to call it, and that's why the payoff was so great. But the fans would rather have had him win it way sooner than that.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Who's to say this isn't just a small part of a longer story. Being in the title picture and winning the title are completely different things. There's a 0.0% chance AJ wins on Sunday. He could climb back and win later in the year and it be an incredible story. It's difficult to judge a guys story arc when it's in its infancy.
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I agree with this.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Who's to say this isn't just a small part of a longer story. Being in the title picture and winning the title are completely different things. There's a 0.0% chance AJ wins on Sunday. He could climb back and win later in the year and it be an incredible story. It's difficult to judge a guys story arc when it's in its infancy.
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Don't put him on the title picture immediately. The story should be working up to #1 contender then winning. Not getting #1 contender in your third marquee match
 
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volfanbill said:
Don't put him on the title picture immediately. The story should be working up to #1 contender then winning. Not getting #1 contender in your third marquee match
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Normally I would agree that a guy being thrust into the world title picture early in his career hurts more than helps, but AJ has been world champ in other promotions. Commentary has been touting his (and Gallows and Anderson) accolades in New Japan so the fans know he's a main event talent. On top of that there's really no one else that can deservedly face Roman without complete disinterest from the fans. Maybe Jericho but that's it.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Normally I would agree that a guy being thrust into the world title picture early in his career hurts more than helps, but AJ has been world champ in other promotions. Commentary has been touting his (and Gallows and Anderson) accolades in New Japan so the fans know he's a main event talent. On top of that there's really no one else that can deservedly face Roman without complete disinterest from the fans. Maybe Jericho but that's it.
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Disagree. Cesare, Ambrose, Jericho, all could be place cards in the reign of Reigns while Styles pushes for #1. Have Jericho screw Styles in that #1 contender match by deliberately cheating. Then he helps Reigns into this gray area by heeling like no other. Meanwhile, Styles beats Owen's then gets another shot at #1
 
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I know Styles is legit. I get that. So giving him the premiere story line is fine. It doesn't mean he should be #1 three months into arriving. Especially since he wasn't booked that way til two weeks ago.
 
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Look at it from this perspective: WWE has to keep fooling us that they are the "superior" product. The best talent in ROH, TNA, NJPW, etc are all inferior to an average talent in the "minor leagues". They have to come in and prove themselves imo. They can't just step up and be #1. But maybe I am in the minority.
 
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volfanbill said:
Disagree. Cesare, Ambrose, Jericho, all could be place cards in the reign of Reigns while Styles pushes for #1. Have Jericho screw Styles in that #1 contender match by deliberately cheating. Then he helps Reigns into this gray area by heeling like no other. Meanwhile, Styles beats Owen's then gets another shot at #1
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Well Cesaro has never been that top level guy although he has potential to still get there. I think Reigns vs Ambrose title feud is being saved for when Ambrose wins MITB this summer (I think he'll win it). I understand everything you're saying though. This all really falls back on WWE's inability to build new stars for the past 5-10 years.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Well Cesaro has never been that top level guy although he has potential to still get there. I think Reigns vs Ambrose title feud is being saved for when Ambrose wins MITB this summer (I think he'll win it). I understand everything you're saying though. This all really falls back on WWE's inability to build new stars for the past 5-10 years.
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Cesaro could be a one month place card though. Gets him over big time.

And again, the top story wouldn't be Cesaro vs Reigns. It would've been Styles pushing himself to the top (again). The premiere story doesn't have to be for the belt directly or even the main event.
 
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oUTlaw said:
Well Cesaro has never been that top level guy although he has potential to still get there. I think Reigns vs Ambrose title feud is being saved for when Ambrose wins MITB this summer (I think he'll win it). I understand everything you're saying though. This all really falls back on WWE's inability to build new stars for the past 5-10 years.
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Oh trust me, the machine built one star in the last decade. One and only one.
 
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volfanbill said:
Cesaro could be a one month place card though. Gets him over big time.

And again, the top story wouldn't be Cesaro vs Reigns. It would've been Styles pushing himself to the top (again). The premiere story doesn't have to be for the belt directly or even the main event.
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But if the belt is t the top story, then it starts to devalue the most important thing in the promotion. I think the only time a story should overtake the world title is if control of the company is on the line. The belt's importance is the whole reason Vince screwed Bret.
 
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oUTlaw said:
But if the belt is t the top story, then it starts to devalue the most important thing in the promotion. I think the only time a story should overtake the world title is if control of the company is on the line. The belt's importance is the whole reason Vince screwed Bret.
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There's been dozens of times the #1 contender match, the IC title belt, the US, the tag team belt, etc were all considered a bigger draw. It's the whole premise of MITB. So your point is kind of void of reality.
 
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volfanbill said:
There's been dozens of times the #1 contender match, the IC title belt, the US, the tag team belt, etc were all considered a bigger draw. It's the whole premise of MITB. So your point is kind of void of reality.
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It may have happened a few times, but I think it's way short of dozens.
 
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Seeing this thread pop up all the time makes me want to start watching wrestling.
 
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