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Notorious B.E.N said:
I don't know, ive heard Rampage and Tito Ortiz say pro wrestling is more painful and grueling than MMA.
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More grueling? Probably, given the number of dates wrestlers work. More painful? Doubtful. I know wrestlers get hurt alot, but it generally comes from screwing something up. In MMA, when they hit you, they really hit you. They don't stomp their boots to make it sound worse than it is. When they put you in a submission hold, they actually apply real pressure, not just enough to sell the move. Not trying to take away from what wrestlers put themselves through, but speaking on pure pain, I think MMA tops wrestling, probably by quite a margin(except for the rare total screw up of a move in wrestling).
 
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Weezer said:
More grueling? Probably, given the number of dates wrestlers work. More painful? Doubtful. I know wrestlers get hurt alot, but it generally comes from screwing something up. In MMA, when they hit you, they really hit you. They don't stomp their boots to make it sound worse than it is. When they put you in a submission hold, they actually apply real pressure, not just enough to sell the move. Not trying to take away from what wrestlers put themselves through, but speaking on pure pain, I think MMA tops wrestling, probably by quite a margin(except for the rare total screw up of a move in wrestling).
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Wrestlers take all those bumps almost every day. Those definitely take a toll on the body.
 
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Notorious B.E.N said:
Wrestlers take all those bumps almost every day. Those definitely take a toll on the body.
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Not saying they don't, but in MMA the striking is real. Everything is real. The arguement could be made that wrestlers endure more pain over their lifetime(again due to the # of shows they work compared to the # of fights an MMA fighter fights), but there's definitely more immediate pain and trauma in an MMA fight.
 
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Serious question, how many have actually been in a fight and taken full on punches to the head and/or the body? That **** hurts like hell. Can you endure it? Of course, but that doesn't make it any less painful. I'd be really interested to know how many MMA fighters are taken to the hospital directly after a fight due to blunt force trauma? I know I've heard of more than one case where an MMA fighter died due to a brain bleed. Some of those fighters get severely fawked up as they inadequately protect themselves. I'm not saying wrestlers don't cripple themselves over time because they undoubtedly do, but the immediate damage and pain and trauma are far mor prevalent in MMA. It's two totally different types of fighting styles. If Brock went in to a wrestling match fighting like an MMA fighter, he'd hurt far more people than he already does. He could end careers.(okay, he may have already ened a few anyway with his overzealous style, but if he went full bore, he could end far more.) Wrestlers are tough bastards, but I seriously doubt many of them could take the beatings handed out in MMA. Now, that's jmo, and you can disagree all you want, but I stick by my assertions.
 
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How much longer is Damien Sandow going to humiliate himself in his role as "Miz-dow"?

It's to the point where it's hard to take The Miz seriously.
 
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And to be fair, Rampage and Tito may have said wrestling is more painful, but I also believe if they did, it was for two reasons. One, lip service. Wrestling is built as much around talking as it is performing. In MMA, your fighting speaks for you. Two, I doubt either has been fully trained in how to take a fall, and falling wrong can hurt like a mother. But that's just a guess.
 
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I agree it's more grueling but I say one MMA fight feels like 20 straight days of TLC matches. Difference is the MMA fighter gets that long, long recovery period.
 
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MG1968 said:
How much longer is Damien Sandow going to humiliate himself in his role as "Miz-dow"?

It's to the point where it's hard to take The Miz seriously.
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Humiliate himself? He's killing it and single-handedly overcoming Vince's year long crusade of trying to bury him. The Miz is doing great as well in his role.
He'll turn face and fight Miz eventually, but it's a slow burn right now.
 
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Voodoomonkey said:
Humiliate himself? He's killing it and single-handedly overcoming Vince's year long crusade of trying to bury him. The Miz is doing great as well in his role.
He'll turn face and fight Miz eventually, but it's a slow burn right now.
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Daloth said:
Mizdow is some of the best work of his career.
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right, I doubt anything happens in the WWE that doesn't have Vince's stamp of approval.

I do agree that he'll eventually end up in a feud with Miz, if he doesn't kill himself first.
 
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So, the idea of CM Punk fighting the Green Ranger in the UFC gets me so childishly excited its not even fair.

I'm sure they won't let it happen, but I wish they would.
 
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Just listened to part 2 of the CM Punk podcast. Punk is way too smart for WWE.
 
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Weezer said:
Serious question, how many have actually been in a fight and taken full on punches to the head and/or the body? That **** hurts like hell. Can you endure it? Of course, but that doesn't make it any less painful. I'd be really interested to know how many MMA fighters are taken to the hospital directly after a fight due to blunt force trauma? I know I've heard of more than one case where an MMA fighter died due to a brain bleed. Some of those fighters get severely fawked up as they inadequately protect themselves. I'm not saying wrestlers don't cripple themselves over time because they undoubtedly do, but the immediate damage and pain and trauma are far mor prevalent in MMA. It's two totally different types of fighting styles. If Brock went in to a wrestling match fighting like an MMA fighter, he'd hurt far more people than he already does. He could end careers.(okay, he may have already ened a few anyway with his overzealous style, but if he went full bore, he could end far more.) Wrestlers are tough bastards, but I seriously doubt many of them could take the beatings handed out in MMA. Now, that's jmo, and you can disagree all you want, but I stick by my assertions.
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Only one guy has died of brain swell in an mma fight, and that was a non-sanctioned fight. Most of the knockouts are not from accumulated blows, but from one good shot. Yes, getting hit with 4 ounce glove sucks, but ameture wrestlers do very well in MMA. That's what Lesner used to win the Championship. Punk has been training with Rener Gracie for over a year now. So I think his submission game could be a strength. But we won't see until he steps into a cage and fights.
 
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Daloth said:
So, the idea of CM Punk fighting the Green Ranger in the UFC gets me so childishly excited its not even fair.

I'm sure they won't let it happen, but I wish they would.
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I don't think Punk would stand a chance against the Green Ranger. That guy is a very well rounded martial arts fighter.
 
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davethevol said:
I don't think Punk would stand a chance against the Green Ranger. That guy is a very well rounded martial arts fighter.
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I don't think he would either. That's one reason I really really want to see it. Jason David Frank is a legit badass. I think he's only had 5 UFC fights, but they've all been wins and ended in the first round.
 
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