WTH is wrong with the people making decisions at UT?
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This is another one of those stupid threads started by someone who just wants to complain. States the three coaches he thinks UT is looking at. Only proof of that is someone posted it which is no real proof. Says he doesn’t listen to Hyams but those are the exact three coaches he listed. Says we made a good AD hire but he’s not making the coaching choice. Not sure what he bases that on. Wants to argue with everyone who refutes what he says.
Appears you to just want to complain and argue. Why not just wait and see what happens.
Appears you to just want to complain and argue. Why not just wait and see what happens.
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Top 10 or 15 program in the country? Fla,UGA,LSU,Aub,Bama, Clemson, Fla St, Miami, OSU, Mich, Penn St, Tex, Tex AM Oklahoma, USC, Oregon There are 16 teams right there that I think have obviously been more relevant in College Football over the past 20 years than UT. There are probably a dozen or so others that would argue that they are as relevant if not more as well. I think "top 20 Job" is about as good as we can claim at this time. So everyone wants a "big name coach". Well who the hell is out there that is worthy of our consideration AND isnt already at a job that many would consider better if not at least as good? And even if this were a better job in most years, this is an absolute landfill fire of a situation. And the fact that you have to google many of the names being considered is the exact reason no one is asking you to make that call.
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The intent of this post is to review the issues around finding a new coach. Most people have their favorites for who should be the next head coach. The fact is there are currently only 2 elite coaches who are frequently in the national playoff picture, Saban and Swinney. Some may want to add Ohio State's Day, but he has only had 2 years and took over a good team from Meyer, so more time needed on him. There are some other good coaches who may occasionally make the playoffs, such as Notre Dame’s Kelly, Oklahoma’s Riley, maybe LSU’s Orgeron, possibly others, but they are not in the same league as Saban/Swinney. So, for those of us who want Tennessee to return to the football glory days of past before the sad excuse for an AD Hamilton destroyed the university’s athletic program with a series of bad coaching hires, how do we get there. Some want to hire an established power 5 coach, others a pro coach, still others recommend a successful head coach from a group of 5 school, or maybe a successful coordinator.
Here are a few things to note with respect to reviewing potential coaches. I want to note that Saban, after one successful season at Toledo followed by 4 years as a pro coordinator then became Michigan State's HC. His first 4 years there were very average, his best record there being 7-5 in 1997 before his breakout year when they went 9-2 in 1999, which led to his hiring at LSU. He had up and down seasons at LSU before winning the National Championship in 2003. As we have seen, he has become a consistent winner. Clemson’s Swinney was a wide receiver’s coach before being named interim HC, then permanent HC at Clemson. His first 2 years were not great before beginning his streak of winning at least 10 games each year and 2 National Championships. So basically, hiring a coordinator or even a position coach is not necessarily a bad thing.
Saban and Swinney are not likely to come to Tennessee, nor are some of the other high-level coaches. Some possible coaches have a reasonably good track record in the SEC, such as Malzahn and Freeze. These coaches would probably regularly win 8 to 10 games per year but would only fight for championships on rare occasions when everything comes together, such as happened at LSU with Orgeron in 2019. There are also some coaches who have had a good season or two and appear to be the next big thing, but there is no guarantee that they will continue that at a new location (see Frost at Nebraska). Jones was successful at Cincinnati but could not keep it going after he lost an excellent QB to graduation. The point here is that hiring a coach is largely a gamble. It is hard to fault administrators’ choices, unless they hire a consistent loser like Hamilton did with Dooley, who had a losing record at Louisiana Tech, because there are just too many unknowns.
Here are a few things to note with respect to reviewing potential coaches. I want to note that Saban, after one successful season at Toledo followed by 4 years as a pro coordinator then became Michigan State's HC. His first 4 years there were very average, his best record there being 7-5 in 1997 before his breakout year when they went 9-2 in 1999, which led to his hiring at LSU. He had up and down seasons at LSU before winning the National Championship in 2003. As we have seen, he has become a consistent winner. Clemson’s Swinney was a wide receiver’s coach before being named interim HC, then permanent HC at Clemson. His first 2 years were not great before beginning his streak of winning at least 10 games each year and 2 National Championships. So basically, hiring a coordinator or even a position coach is not necessarily a bad thing.
Saban and Swinney are not likely to come to Tennessee, nor are some of the other high-level coaches. Some possible coaches have a reasonably good track record in the SEC, such as Malzahn and Freeze. These coaches would probably regularly win 8 to 10 games per year but would only fight for championships on rare occasions when everything comes together, such as happened at LSU with Orgeron in 2019. There are also some coaches who have had a good season or two and appear to be the next big thing, but there is no guarantee that they will continue that at a new location (see Frost at Nebraska). Jones was successful at Cincinnati but could not keep it going after he lost an excellent QB to graduation. The point here is that hiring a coach is largely a gamble. It is hard to fault administrators’ choices, unless they hire a consistent loser like Hamilton did with Dooley, who had a losing record at Louisiana Tech, because there are just too many unknowns.
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If anyone,including the immortal Jimmy hymmen,says they know who the next coach will be,they are lying.AD Danny White knows virtually no one here,so no insider.White is using a search firm,hopefully with no leaks,therefore,we will find out when.the wheels touch down at magee/Tyson(spelling)to know who is UT's new coach.Just let the rest of this crap from hyamms go.
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