Would you take Southern Miss in the SEC over Ole Miss or Miss State?

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Golden Eagle fan here.
I was wondering what you guys thought of Ole Miss and Miss State.
We all know they do not pull their weight in the SEC.
Do you feel if Southern Miss had the same benefits as these two schools would be a better addition to the SEC?

Eagle fans look forward playing you guys! We have much respect for your program!
Good luck against Cal!:)
 
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No. As in they are a tougher team and don't roll over for you. Ole Miss and MSU are like padding the schedule, only in the conference.


But, they would make a fine addition. I've always liked them. They are the best team in Miss., and have been for years. And actually a larger enrollment than the other by far, if I'm not mistaken.
 
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No, because I'm a fan of tradition. And frankly, I like our odds year in year out against Ole Miss and State more than I would against USM. Southern Miss has a good program.
 
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Although Mississippi State game would be close, I'd still take the SEC.
 
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I still think Ole Miss and Miss. St. are better in their "good years" than a S. Miss. is in their "good years." Plus tradition. And the egg bowl is always a funny, anticlimactic way to end a year.
 
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Ole Miss and MSU have been good in the past, we even played MSU in the title game. At some point they will be good again. Plus both those schools are much better in b-ball than Southern Miss. Not sure about other sports but how big is Southern's stadium. That would be another factor too.
 
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If you put Southern Miss into the SEC, their recruiting would be different. Instead of being potentially the best team in their conference every year, they would be potentially the worst. Thus, guys with enough talent to play in the SEC would not want to go to Southern Miss. For a high school kid, there is a big difference between going to play for a giant killer with the legit possibility of winning a conference championship and playing in a bowl game, and a conference bottom dweller. I just don't think you could take that program and expect it to be the same if you dropped it into a BCS conference.
 
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Ole Miss has a deep history in the conference and I cannot really see the SEC without them. Miss. State is a different story but I do not see anyone moving to oust them. A team would have to leave the SEC in order for S.Miss, or any other squad, to have a chance of moving in. About the only scenario whereby I could see that happining is if a Big12 school leaves for the Big10 and Arky leaves for for the Big12.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Ole Miss has a deep history in the conference and I cannot really see the SEC without them. Miss. State is a different story but I do not see anyone moving to oust them. A team would have to leave the SEC in order for S.Miss, or any other squad, to have a chance of moving in. About the only scenario whereby I could see that happining is if a Big12 school leaves for the Big10 and Arky leaves for for the Big12.
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same here. and i don't know how real that possibility is. in the rumblings i've read about Big 10 expansion, they likely would want to enter new markets.....some that i've read as possibilities.....Syaracuse, Colorado, Missouri......now if either of those two Big 12 schools ever did leave, then it opens the door for something like that to happen. but even the Big 10 has said that there's no push to do any of this.

and in that scenario, i could see Arkansas packing up it's toys and going home.

and again, if that were to happen, i'd think the SEC would seek another market to get in to rather than adding a 3rd MS school or a 2nd KY school (L'ville). I'd expect them to go after someone in NC or VA to add to the SEC....and add a "new" market. at this point, it's not so much about adding a good football or bball program as much as it is about expanding your market area......
 
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Because of b-ball I don't they would but NC State could be a solid fit. I don't think we need anymore powerhouse football teams because we're already beating each other up as it is.
 
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JZVOL said:
Because of b-ball I don't they would but NC State could be a solid fit. I don't think we need anymore powerhouse football teams because we're already beating each other up as it is.
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that likely would not be part of the decision making process, entirely. of course i don't see like an ECU or something, but i could see a push being made for an NCSU or UVA or VT, that is if it were to fall in place like that......
 
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jakez4ut said:
knowing the comedic nature of your posts, that's a compliment by the way, i'm hesitant to say anything but........LINK?
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North:
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Miss St.
S. Carolina

South:
Arkansas
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Florida

The SEC feels that this will be a better realignment of the teams because all of the good teams will be in one division and all of the bad ones in another.
 
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TuskALoosa said:
North:
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Miss St.
S. Carolina

South:
Arkansas
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Florida

The SEC feels that this will be a better realignment of the teams because all of the good teams will be in one division and all of the bad ones in another.
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Well played.
 
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No, I like the tradition. Southern Miss is a good program and a scary game this year for us. But, they can't compete in the SEC year in and year out. But Tuskaloser, neither can Bama.
 
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jakez4ut said:
same here. and i don't know how real that possibility is. in the rumblings i've read about Big 10 expansion, they likely would want to enter new markets.....some that i've read as possibilities.....Syaracuse, Colorado, Missouri......now if either of those two Big 12 schools ever did leave, then it opens the door for something like that to happen. but even the Big 10 has said that there's no push to do any of this.

and in that scenario, i could see Arkansas packing up it's toys and going home.

and again, if that were to happen, i'd think the SEC would seek another market to get in to rather than adding a 3rd MS school or a 2nd KY school (L'ville). I'd expect them to go after someone in NC or VA to add to the SEC....and add a "new" market. at this point, it's not so much about adding a good football or bball program as much as it is about expanding your market area......
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Unfortunately, that angle is quite accurate, market wise. Not one I like. I've always viewed conferences as being regional teams. Then the BE went to VTech and Miami. Both of which ended up in the ACC. In their case, the ACC ended up pretty good. Rich market expansion with good additions, and all but BC still rather regional. GT and BC, Miami are a little out of place geographically. Of course now, they truly are the ACC and not the Colleges of North Carolina conference. If, and it is a BIG IF, the SEC ever encountered a need to replace a team, I would hate to see it go too far outside the region. You're really not going to find sufficient replacements without raiding other major conferences and creating a conference merry-go-round, or going to a Southern Miss in a lesser major conference. SEC tradition will never allow asking a team to leave. When we did expand, we kept it regional.
 
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Welcome to the Southern Miss fans linking to this thread.

Welcome even to this guy:

A couple of them have flawed logic. My bet is that they are good fans until we beat them a time or two, then.........
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TuskALoosa said:
North:
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Miss St.
S. Carolina

South:
Arkansas
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Florida

The SEC feels that this will be a better realignment of the teams because all of the good teams will be in one division and all of the bad ones in another.
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at least you're consistent......i'll give you that much.....:p
 
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GVF said:
Unfortunately, that angle is quite accurate, market wise. Not one I like. I've always viewed conferences as being regional teams. Then the BE went to VTech and Miami. Both of which ended up in the ACC. In their case, the ACC ended up pretty good. Rich market expansion with good additions, and all but BC still rather regional. GT and BC, Miami are a little out of place geographically. Of course now, they truly are the ACC and not the Colleges of North Carolina conference. If, and it is a BIG IF, the SEC ever encountered a need to replace a team, I would hate to see it go too far outside the region. You're really not going to find sufficient replacements without raiding other major conferences and creating a conference merry-go-round, or going to a Southern Miss in a lesser major conference. SEC tradition will never allow asking a team to leave. When we did expand, we kept it regional.
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technically speaking, the ACC is still geographically correct.....and the only ones who really think the ACC was regionally based was the folks on Tobacco Road and Clemson.
 
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