Would you support Tyndall if he were to take Chad Frazier?

Would you support Tyndall if he were to take Chad Frazier?

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#26
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For those of you who watch TNT's Murder in the First there was a scene where a couple was having a divorce hearing. The woman got so mad at her husband towards the end of their meeting she got up came over to him verbally abusing him then she began to slap him several times he tried moving away only for her to continue. He took her down with one blow. Right or wrong sometimes there is more to the story than we all know. Not hitting someone and showing restraint works both ways.
 
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#27
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I would like to say i would never hit a woman. But if a woman starting hitting me in the face. Beeeach better back it up cause she going down. Some woman thugs are more dangerous than men.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Off topic, but I don't understand why assault on a woman is so much worse than on a man. Assault is assault IMO.
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I agree with this 100%. But it's much easier for a man to walk away than it is a woman. I'm overly outspoken on this because of my childhood, watch it almost every day and it hits you a little differently.
 
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A couple years ago me and my dad were at my uncles house when his now ex wife asked for some money and he told her no ( a little back ground my aunt had never really worked in her life and my uncle had found out that she was spending his money on pills so he had it made where she had no access to money other than him giving it to her,the only reason he was still with her was for the kids). Anyways she went back inside their house and comes back out with pepper spray and starts spray in his eyes and hitting him, busting his lip and cutting his face with her wedding ring, my uncle shoves her down. She goes back inside the house while we check on my uncle. She called the cops and tells them he assaulted her, the cops get there and don't want to here anyone else's side of the story and they arrest my uncle and take him jail. She would later drop the charges trying to reconcile with my uncle knowing she was pretty much screwed without but it was too late. I'm not saying Frazier should be giving and chance or not and if he wasn't provoked then he shouldn't be giving a chance, I'm just saying that sometimes in these situations the whole story isn't told.
 
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keckjm said:
I'm not condoning hitting women to any existent; however, for guys who have had a chance to take a very attractive woman out you can understand that at times it can get frustrating. I took a woman out one time, she was super attractive, and she drank so much throughout the night that she tried to take my pants off in public. I'm not saying hitting woman is ever ok, but there are times that you have to take some responsibility for the situation at hand. That doesn't mean you hit the woman, but guys have a right to express their dislike in women's actions. Again that expression shouldn't be a hit to a woman's face, but it looks almost as ugly when you have to make a scene in public because a woman is crossing that line of self respect and humility. I say find all the details out, and if this is his only episode of this type of behavior get him some off the field help and give him a second chance.
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A man has to control his woman. Women needs that type of leadership in their lives. They can't be trusted on their own.


^^^That's kinda how you sound :ermm:
 
#33
#33
I would and wouldnt have a problem....if he got in trouble he should be kicked off but he should have his act together
 
#34
#34
It is DTs first year. It would bring a spotlight on his program he doesn't need. You can't look at giving second chances in a vacuum if you are a coach.Male on female violence is a hot button issue as it relates to athletes and he and program don't need distraction .
 
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I don't agree with making these types of decisions based on the level of need. Maybe that's naive of me.
 
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JohnnyD1024 said:
A couple years ago me and my dad were at my uncles house when his now ex wife asked for some money and he told her no ( a little back ground my aunt had never really worked in her life and my uncle had found out that she was spending his money on pills so he had it made where she had no access to money other than him giving it to her,the only reason he was still with her was for the kids). Anyways she went back inside their house and comes back out with pepper spray and starts spray in his eyes and hitting him, busting his lip and cutting his face with her wedding ring, my uncle shoves her down. She goes back inside the house while we check on my uncle. She called the cops and tells them he assaulted her, the cops get there and don't want to here anyone else's side of the story and they arrest my uncle and take him jail. She would later drop the charges trying to reconcile with my uncle knowing she was pretty much screwed without but it was too late. I'm not saying Frazier should be giving and chance or not and if he wasn't provoked then he shouldn't be giving a chance, I'm just saying that sometimes in these situations the whole story isn't told.
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I wrote out two long scenarios, and then erased them, but this story pretty much sums up what I wanted to say: everyone has a breaking point. Unless you know the whole story, you don't where the root problem lies. People need to realize that some people really are "asking for it". That in no way excuses those who are abusive people at heart, or even going off on someone without major provocation. However, people (men) do have a right to defend themselves. As a society, we don't need to just automatically blame every physical confrontation on the man. We need to judge each case based on the facts.

Just like someone above was saying: they have seen the abuse that a man can give to his (helpless) family. Well, I have seen the ways that a woman can abuse. Trust me, it can be just as devastating - just as evil - whether it is considered illegal or not. We have got to look at the whole story.

(Isn't there another area for these types of discussions?)
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on this, and given it's the offseason thought it might provide some good basketball related discussion.

Chad Frazier was the starting PG for UAB last season, averaging 35mpg 17.7ppg 4.3apg 3.3apg 1.1spg leading to him making C-USA 1st team, and winning C-USA newcomer of the year. Frazier spent his first 2 season at the JUCO level before committing to UAB.

On June 5, 2014 Frazier was arrested for a domestic violence charge, the story is linked...

UAB's leading scorer not returning following domestic violence charge - CBSSports.com

Obviously the domestic violence is a very serious charge, and shouldn't be looked lightly at. The fact is however that on college sports these types of guys find new homes, would you be ok with him at Tennessee? If Tyndall isn't willing to take him you know someone else will be, maybe someone else in the SEC, or possibly an OOC team on our schedule.

Given the PG situation, and that this guy would only have 1 year of eligibility, would you support Tyndall if he were to take Frazier? Since Frazier was a JUCO his first 2 years he wouldn't require the same waiver the SEC denied McKnight with, and since he is apparently being "run-off" by UAB, he could use the "run-off" waiver that Anthony Hickey used and be eligible immediately.
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I support whatever Tyndall does but I hope Tyndall doesn't take the risk cause that could draw bad publicity for our organization something we have to much of,jmo If I was coach I wouldn't take Frazier
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on this, and given it's the offseason thought it might provide some good basketball related discussion.

Chad Frazier was the starting PG for UAB last season, averaging 35mpg 17.7ppg 4.3apg 3.3apg 1.1spg leading to him making C-USA 1st team, and winning C-USA newcomer of the year. Frazier spent his first 2 season at the JUCO level before committing to UAB.

On June 5, 2014 Frazier was arrested for a domestic violence charge, the story is linked...

UAB's leading scorer not returning following domestic violence charge - CBSSports.com

Obviously the domestic violence is a very serious charge, and shouldn't be looked lightly at. The fact is however that on college sports these types of guys find new homes, would you be ok with him at Tennessee? If Tyndall isn't willing to take him you know someone else will be, maybe someone else in the SEC, or possibly an OOC team on our schedule.

Given the PG situation, and that this guy would only have 1 year of eligibility, would you support Tyndall if he were to take Frazier? Since Frazier was a JUCO his first 2 years he wouldn't require the same waiver the SEC denied McKnight with, and since he is apparently being "run-off" by UAB, he could use the "run-off" waiver that Anthony Hickey used and be eligible immediately.
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I have learned to NOT take a report or even conviction of domestic violence as the gospel truth.

We know these days that some women, who are angry at a man, will provoke a man and when the man defends himself, they will claim domestic violence. Once the cops arrive and she has scars also, and she cries the loudest, then he is led away in a cop car.

I have seen women do this when they feel they are being cheated on or when they don't get their way.

In fact, the crazy wide receiver who plays for Dallas, who missed his junior season at Okla homo State, tried to restrain his crack addict mom so she would not go out and get more crack and he ended up being arrested. He was merely trying to restrain his mother to keep her from harming herself, yet he was arrested......

You have to look at each case indivivually.....
 
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keckjm said:
I'm not condoning hitting women to any existent; however, for guys who have had a chance to take a very attractive woman out you can understand that at times it can get frustrating. I took a woman out one time, she was super attractive, and she drank so much throughout the night that she tried to take my pants off in public. I'm not saying hitting woman is ever ok, but there are times that you have to take some responsibility for the situation at hand. That doesn't mean you hit the woman, but guys have a right to express their dislike in women's actions. Again that expression shouldn't be a hit to a woman's face, but it looks almost as ugly when you have to make a scene in public because a woman is crossing that line of self respect and humility. I say find all the details out, and if this is his only episode of this type of behavior get him some off the field help and give him a second chance.
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The solution is an easy one!!!!!!!!!!! Only date women who have class. Don't get with women who cruse like a sailor. Drink like a sailor. Wear very very revealing clothes in public, etc. etc.

A classy woman will not behave in that manner, thus you would not ever be in that situation..........

Problem solved!!!!!!

you get what you choose to settle for...........
 
#45
#45
No. He wouldn't/shouldn't have the respect of his teammates with that baggage. A PG needs to have leadership and respect from his team, kinda like a QB. So no way I take him.

Not to mention that I have 2 daughters, and if some punk did that to one of them I would snap his neck like a twig.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
I agree with this 100%. But it's much easier for a man to walk away than it is a woman. I'm overly outspoken on this because of my childhood, watch it almost every day and it hits you a little differently.
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I can understand what you're saying though I can't really relate. I always feel fortunate about my upbringing when I hear terrible stories from the less fortunate.

Still, seems like a very chivalrous ideology, i.e. unfair. Jmo.
 
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