Would you hire this coach?

#26
#26
1995 6-5
1996 5-6
1997 8-4
1998 6-5
1999 5-6
2000 9-4
2001 7-5
2002 9-4
2003 8-5
2004 13-0
2005 9-3
2006 11-2
2007 9-4
2008 5-7

110-60 .647% winning pct all in sec


2010 8-5
2011 5-7
2012 currently 6-2

19-14 currently in big 12

think this could be a back up plan if not gruden
 
#27
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tnjonm79 said:
1995 6-5
1996 5-6
1997 8-4
1998 6-5
1999 5-6
2000 9-4
2001 7-5
2002 9-4
2003 8-5
2004 13-0
2005 9-3
2006 11-2
2007 9-4
2008 5-7

110-60 .647% winning pct all in sec


2010 8-5
2011 5-7
2012 currently 6-2

19-14 currently in big 12

think this could be a back up plan if not gruden
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No
 
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tnjonm79 said:
1995 6-5
1996 5-6
1997 8-4
1998 6-5
1999 5-6
2000 9-4
2001 7-5
2002 9-4
2003 8-5
2004 13-0
2005 9-3
2006 11-2
2007 9-4
2008 5-7

110-60 .647% winning pct all in sec


2010 8-5
2011 5-7
2012 currently 6-2

19-14 currently in big 12

think this could be a back up plan if not gruden
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Tubs would such a boring hire and a huge let down. I don't think there is any chance they hire him.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Posting Gruden's record....

You should probably mention this is NFL games. Not scrub games that include annual cupcake games like a college coach. So, to answer your question, .540% in the NFL, would I hire him?

Absolutely. If you can win more than you lose against the best players in the world, you're a pretty good coach!
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Quite a few fired, middle of the pack NFL coaches. Anyone would do. Not just Gruden.
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
I wonder if anybody would be happy with this coach If we hired him? Just want you to see his record. Do you think this is a homerun hire?

Year W L

1998 8 8
1999 8 8
2000 12 4
2001 10 6
2002 12 4
2003 7 9
2004 5 11
2005 11 5
2006 4 12
2007 9 7
2008 9 7

Total 95 81 (.540%)
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This coach win any championships?
 
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Lexvol said:
So we have found our 1% that won't be happy with Gruden. Somebody get the list started.
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Did any where in that post did I say I didn't like Gruden? I just ask a question if this is a homerun hire. I just want us to have the best coach we can get and not the best name. He has never coached at the college level and he has been out of coaching 4 years. So I think we can get somebody better then him to coach are team. That said if we hire a new coach or not next year I will pull for the team and hope we win a lot of games.
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
Did any where in that post did I say I didn't like Gruden? I just ask a question if this is a homerun hire. I just want us to have the best coach we can get and not the best name. He has never coached at the college level and he has been out of coaching 4 years. So I think we can get somebody better then him to coach are team. That said if we hire a new coach or not next year I will pull for the team and hope we win a lot of games.
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John Gruden is a homerun hire. No question about it.
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
I wonder if anybody would be happy with this coach If we hired him? Just want you to see his record. Do you think this is a homerun hire?

Year W L

1998 8 8
1999 8 8
2000 12 4
2001 10 6
2002 12 4
2003 7 9
2004 5 11
2005 11 5
2006 4 12
2007 9 7
2008 9 7

Total 95 81 (.540%)
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And Nick Saban was 15-17 as an NFL coach, what's your point?
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
Tony Dungy built the Super Bowl Team. Jon Gruden just came in at the right time.
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Come on. This is the worst argument.

Sure, Dungy had the talent built up. But he didn't get them to a SB and he sure didn't win it.

Gruden came in and coached them to the win.

Also, don't forgot that the same argument could be made about the team Gruden beat in the SB - it was his Oakland team that he built.

If anything that was the Gruden bowl. Either way he wins.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Come on. This is the worst argument.

Sure, Dungy had the talent built up. But he didn't get them to a SB and he sure didn't win it.

Gruden came in and coached them to the win.

Also, don't forgot that the same argument could be made about the team Gruden beat in the SB - it was his Oakland team that he built.

If anything that was the Gruden bowl. Either way he wins.
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I was going to say this very thing. If you give credit to Dungy for building Tampa, you absolutely have to give credit to Gruden for building Oakland into a championship contender. And the fact that it was the team that Gruden led at the time that won is obviously noteworthy.
 
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For some reason, when looking at those records, I thought it was Mike Riley...not sure why. Even still...you better believe it!
 
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Elite talenf(required to win in the SEC) doesn't play for state pride and an education. They play to get to the league.PERIOD.

So to answer the question HELL YES I would hire that coach if he could flash a super bowl ring and say "kid I know what it takes to make it in the nfl, and I can get you there" vs. "I know we lost to Kentucky and haven't beaten a ranked team since I've been here....but but it's all a process and my daddy could coach"

Which one of these approaches gets the recruits??
 
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Actually, he had one disappointing season in the last 4. 11-5, 9-7, 9-7 were 3 of those. Pretty darned good considering he never did have a franchise QB. It's now understood in the NFL, that you HAVE to have a marquee QB to win in the league. You will struggle without one.

Miami caught on to that, after YEARS of journeymen QB's. Indy is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better now that they drafted one. If they had the same ones from last year, they'd be the punching bag for the league.

Gruden realizes that. He's hinted at that in many of his pre-draft interviews with QB draft prospects. He's said things like..."look here at Aaron Rodgers. We let this guy get by us in the draft and what did he do, got me fired (saying it jokingly)."
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
I wonder if anybody would be happy with this coach If we hired him? Just want you to see his record. Do you think this is a homerun hire?

Year W L

1998 8 8
1999 8 8
2000 13 5
2001 11 7 * lost in playoffs on a stupid rule
2002 15 4 WC
2003 7 9
2004 5 11
2005 11 6
2006 4 12
2007 9 8
2008 9 7

Total 100 85 (.541%)
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Should include his postseason too.
 
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WriterVol said:
I was going to say this very thing. If you give credit to Dungy for building Tampa, you absolutely have to give credit to Gruden for building Oakland into a championship contender. And the fact that it was the team that Gruden led at the time that won is obviously noteworthy.
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You can give credit to Gruden for Oakland but they didn't win the game. Tony left and went on to be the better coach by far. His record is 136 W & 69 L .668 %. I think we should go after Dungy if we won't a great coach!
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
You can give credit to Gruden for Oakland but they didn't win the game. Tony left and went on to be the better coach by far. His record is 136 W & 69 L .668 %. I think we should go after Dungy if we won't a great coach!
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It must be hard to win games with Peyton Manning in his prime.
 
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yea,Dungy is great...he had probably the greatest QB of all time and won 1 Super Bowl his entire career...
that reeks of greatness...all he had to do was surround Peyton with a half ass defense and couldn't do that...Indy's D was great when Peyton built up a 21 pt lead to turn Freeney and Mathis loose on the QB...
but if they ran the ball to keep Peyton of the field,Indy
was screwed...

and Dungy didn't build the Tampa team,Rich McKay did,the GM...Dungy might have had some input,but the drafting was McKay...
 
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triad280 said:
yea,Dungy is great...he had probably the greatest QB of all time and won 1 Super Bowl his entire career...
that reeks of greatness...all he had to do was surround Peyton with a half ass defense and couldn't do that...Indy's D was great when Peyton built up a 21 pt lead to turn Freeney and Mathis loose on the QB...
but if they ran the ball to keep Peyton of the field,Indy
was screwed...

and Dungy didn't build the Tampa team,Rich McKay did,the GM...Dungy might have had some input,but the drafting was McKay...
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truth from beginning to end.

Dungy was a good coach, but seeing Jim Caldwell win games the year after Dungy left told the story as gas as who made the Colts go.
 
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Give_Him_6! said:
I wonder if anybody would be happy with this coach If we hired him? Just want you to see his record. Do you think this is a homerun hire?

Total 95 81 (.540%)
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All right OP, since you went to the trouble to try and make a point.. I ask you or anyone else that might be interested to do the same exact thing (ignoring his 4 Super Bowl victories) you did here with Chuck Knolls record.. Remember Knoll coached for 23 seasons and close to 400 games.. Please do it, I think you will be surprised..
 
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