Would Butch Jones still be at UT if not for Josh Dobbs

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volfan102455 said:
Agree on Harbaugh. He has finished 3rd in his division in the Big 10. He never won the championship at Stanford.

He won games but NOT championships which is the main complaint about Jones.
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This is only his third year... Jones is in year five and still hasn't won Jack.
 
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Burger said:
This is only his third year... Jones is in year five and still hasn't won Jack.
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Harbaugh just lost 11 players to the draft, returned only 5 starters, and physically manhandled the team we lost to a couple weeks ago.
 
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Great, this thread again!
 

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BigOrangeTrain said:
If Meyer has sucked like you say, then 99% of the other college coaches have been beyond horrid the last 2 years.

Are you insinuating you wouldnt take Harbaugh or Meyer over what we have now?
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No. I don't want the vols coach having sleepovers with recruits.
 
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njvols said:
If someone has the SC thread after the game last year, I'm pretty sure that Dobbs carrying us wasn't the theme...which, is one of the reasons that Butch is being scorched all off season and this season.

I look at Peterson and Fergusson before they transferred, and how they struggled when they got on the field early w/o PT. The biggest problem w/ Dormady development is that he wasn't able to get much PT last year, because we weren't able to put any teams away, w/ all the injuries, drama and inconsistent play. Now, he and JG are thrown into the fire, and to date, they look like they need alot more seasoning...though I think both have talent to be good QB's. Problem is, we need top shelf QB play now, and it doesn't look like it's coming.
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Because the game plan was absolutely awful. We kept Dobbs in the pocket nearly all night, would abandon the run game whenever it started clicking, and rarely drew up any designed runs for Dobbs. We didn't play to our QB's strengths in that game. Not to mention, our O-line got whipped all night. Offense didn't look prepared that night at all, and I saw no signs of leadership on the sidelines. What did you expect to happen?
 
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photovol said:
I just wonder if Butch Jones, the way he develops talent, would still be here if not for having Josh Dobbs at QB?

With Dobbs departed to the NFL, Tennessee struggles to find any consistency at QB..... dejavu , Whorley, Peterman ect
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Right. And this year looks to be playing out just like last year would have without Dobbs. No second half heroics against UF, had to fight from behind to beat an acc team, and there will prolly be no hail marry to beat UGA.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Just goes to show how bad of a coach Butch Jones is.

Give a great coach like Jim Harbaugh a QB like Josh Dobbs and he wins 2 national titles.
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You might just want to wait for a great coach like Jim Harbaugh to beat Ohio St. and win his own conference title before you start conferring national titles. BTW, I'm no fan of CBJ's game day decisions.
 
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05_never_again said:
Yep. Dobbs likely would have been invited to NYC for the Heisman ceremony if he went to Alabama or Ohio State. I think he was that good, but this coaching staff could not get it out of him.

The standard narrative on Dobbs is that he never truly developed as a passer. That's totally true. However, what isn't talked about as much is that I don't think he developed as a runner either. Most of Dobbs's big plays as a runner were improvised; the protection failed and Dobbs scrambled for yards, sometimes turning busted plays into spectacular ones. It was all natural, instinctive ability. But go back and pull the tape on his designed runs. He was quite mediocre at making the read on RPOs (never quite could read what the DE was doing) and had trouble finding holes on designed QB draws. He obviously was very naturally talented at running, but when a specific play designed to make use of his ability was called, he was inconsistent. I think that is 100% a by-product of mediocre coaching.
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Good point, agree totally
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
And got blowed out, not even blowed out but shut out in the playoff game.
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The final 4 playoff?

If Jones by some miracle made it to Atl this year and gets trucked by Bama (again) I'm sure you will be here describing him the same. Or even yet Im sure you wont mind it if someone else goes that direction in a few weeks.
 
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