Worst case scenario for Tennessee

#76
#76
Gosh, these people with "expectations" of 8+ wins are being very dilusional. We didn't beat any of the good teams last season to prove that we should expect anything near 10 wins (LoL if you say Iowa is a good team).

DT (freshmen), MLB (no experience), WR depth (remember injuries the past 2 seasons?), QB depth (Dobbs gets hurt and we're screwed) are all reasons to keep "expectations" low. I EXPECT to win 7 games, but can see us winning as many as 10 or 11. If you really expect this team to win 10 and be disappointed will be the same people calling for Jone's head after the season, which will be just plain ridiculous.

Jones recruited all these young guys and all of them showed growth last year. He's got another batch of young guys that will need growth again this year, so there will be growing pains at those positions above. Save your 9-10 win expecatations for next year. I will admit that all the games this year will be fun to watch though, even the Alabama game for a change.
 
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#77
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fade route said:
Worst case scenario? Dobbs gets hurt early in the year, Dormady isn't ready, O line hasn't really improved much and Arky and UF are better than what everyone expects. 5-7 again, or a history making 4-8. That's your worst case scenario.
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Why stop at 4-8? By that line of thought, we might as well pour the whole wrath of God upon us!

Butch Jones gets caught in a sex scandal! Maggitt and Barnett get ejected every other game because they are crazy.
Dobbs looks at the sky during every night game dreaming of space travel and generates no offense!
Dormady comes in but none of the wrs catch the football because he is just a Freshman, and we haze freshman now!

Derek Dooley begins to voice his opinion about the current state of UT football and compares it to 11 years war!

... 0-12
It could always be worse.
Luckily we are better than 10 other teams on our schedule.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I need to explode this myth right now.

People act like he with the best O-line shall win. I'm sorry but that's hogwash.
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If you are great on the OL and DL in the SEC you don't necessarily have to have great talent at every other position. Just be solid at those positions, and you have a chance to be competitive in every game you play. And there is no myth to that at all.

Our O-line was historic awful last year and we were damn close to 8-wins. In fact, should have won 8 truth be told. Butch still has much to prove on Saturdays.

An O-line has to be serviceable. It has to be able to hit moving bodies which Mahoney and Bajakian apparently forgot to coach early last season (see Striker, 2014; Chattanooga, 2014).
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We had no true OTs on the 2014 team other than the JUCO Blair, who came in with really bad footwork and hand technique. We also had no one with any meaningful college experience. Add to that we had 3 of the 5 OL positions where people were having to play out of position. The OL should be improved this season with guys having more experience, having one more year in the S&C program, getting used to each other, and not having to play out of position. The OL can be serviceable this season, but we still have the question at LT. If that is answered then it can indeed be a serviceable OL.

The D-line, however, is the second most important unit on a football team after QB. I would not trade our D-Line with anyone in the SEC right now. There are no question marks. It is an elite unit and now has talent and depth.
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The DL has the potential to be an elite unit. It is not an elite unit yet. When we get to the point we are 3-deep with SEC-caliber talent across the DL then we will be there. Any injuries along the DL at this point would be critical.

If the O-line is not serviceable this year - Butch and Co have failed. If we do not beat Florida, Mizzou, and Arkansas this year, Butch and Co have failed. We may still lose three games, but it can't be to any of those.
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I agree that we cannot lose all 3 of those games this season without it being a failure, but that's most definitely NOT what you said in the OP. What you did say was that a loss to Arkansas meant Butch = Zook, and that is flat out BS, considering some analysts, such as McElroy, who you quoted in the OP, are saying the hogs are talented enough to win the SEC outright.

And no one should be pumping brakes. There is every reason to believe this team has 10-wins in them. This 8 - 4 business is HOGWASH.
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This team can win 10 games IF all questions are answered positively, and IF we can stay relatively injury-free, but anyone who thinks 8-4 is not more likely than 10-2 is simply ignoring the realities of life in the SEC. I'd say we would have to have some of the good fortune we had in '98 for that to happen.
 
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livefaith said:
Worst case is more like,

Butch leaving for Vandy a week before the opener.
Hart brings Doolittle back as HC to stabilize
Dooley yanks Sal outta the panhandle for $2M/yr+20yr buyout
Clawson returns to take over as OC
then it gets really bad when the endzones get orange and smoky gray cheggardboards.

... at least that's the region I think of when I hear "worst case".
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I would jump off the Gay Street bridge wearing cement shoes.:post-4-1090547912:
 
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cumberlandbm said:
Gosh, these people with "expectations" of 8+ wins are being very dilusional. We didn't beat any of the good teams last season to prove that we should expect anything near 10 wins (LoL if you say Iowa is a good team).

DT (freshmen), MLB (no experience), WR depth (remember injuries the past 2 seasons?), QB depth (Dobbs gets hurt and we're screwed) are all reasons to keep "expectations" low. I EXPECT to win 7 games, but can see us winning as many as 10 or 11. If you really expect this team to win 10 and be disappointed will be the same people calling for Jone's head after the season, which will be just plain ridiculous.

Jones recruited all these young guys and all of them showed growth last year. He's got another batch of young guys that will need growth again this year, so there will be growing pains at those positions above. Save your 9-10 win expecatations for next year. I will admit that all the games this year will be fun to watch though, even the Alabama game for a change.
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There seems to be a continuing theme that we will be weak in the middle due to freshmen DT's. We have Danny O'Brien and Owen Williams?? If the freshmen start over them, they have proven that they are better.
 
#81
#81
Worst case for me is we lose to fla, ga, bama and mizz without anyone injured. Then we have bigger issues..

I said cbj should hit 9 wins in yr 3 if we have any chance of him being a championship coach in the sec. I still say 9 wins.
 
#82
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volsportsfan said:
You could have stopped at Dobbs getting hurt. Folks, if Dobbs goes down, Dormady is not ready for the meat grinder we will face, starting with OU. Our offense will bog down, defenses will dare us to throw, we will not consistently move the chains, and our Defense will tire out. DOBBS HAS TO STAY HEALTHY.
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How do you know whether or not dormady is ready. Furthermore how do you know that Dormady will beat sherion Jones out for the #2 spot? What happens if Dobbs gets hurt and dormady or jones is better? We are talking about a guy who has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns not a returning all american.
 
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jarnol32 said:
How do you know whether or not Dormandy is ready. Furthermore how do you know that Dormandy will beat sherion Jones out for the #2 spot? What happens if Dobbs gets hurt and Dormandy is better? We are talking about a guy who has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns not a returning all american.
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Who is Dormandy?
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
The expectation this year should be 10-wins.

We should not be scared of anyone. Teams should fear us.

We should not be losing in Neyland to Arkansas. Florida and Mizzou are must win games.

No one should be pumping the brakes. Team 119 is ready to go full throttle.

Win, baby. WIN!
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You're not familiar with the concept of under-promising and over-delivering, are you?
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Greg McElroy just said our worst case scenario is THIRD in the SEC East.

Best... well, just winning the east.

Said we can't compete with alabama and auburn just yet, but he could change his mind.
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I say the worse case scenario would be for us to end up in last place due to major injuries to the starters; especially the starting q.b. or kicker.

I say the best case scenario is for us to win our games and get help from other teams and we end up # 1 in the East.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but Arky isnt a "must win game" any more that every game on our schedule. Arky is strong this year and their line and running game is beast. If their QB plays like he did in the second half of last season, they will be a very tough game for everyone of their schedule.
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Other_Guy said:
The team barely made a bowl. 9 wins would be OUTSTANDING.
Also Arkansas could easily be a 9 win team so show a lil respect :hi:
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I think Arkansas will be a solid team this year.

We should be better. The game is in Neyland.

We are basically saying Bielema was flat out a more bad-ass hire than Butch. That's what everyone is saying.

Forgive all the alliteration but that's either BullSh!te or Bollocks for us.
 
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jarnol32 said:
Auto correct on iPhone.
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Gottcha. Somebody needs to get in touch with the iPhone techs and let them know there is a Dormady that will be talked about a lot by Vol faithful and to not auto correct. And what is a Dormandy anyway?
 
#93
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Kristy* said:
Gottcha. Somebody needs to get in touch with the iPhone techs and let them know there is a Dormady that will be talked about a lot by Vol faithful and to not auto correct. And what is a Dormandy anyway?
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Yours must be disabled.
 
#94
#94
don't forget that there is a lot of young talent on this team,that is going to be relied upon this year again,there young and will make mistakes,there is to many high expectations being made of the freshmen,most of the line men will need a red shirt year,there may be 1 or 2 that will step up,but they will still be freshmen playing in the SEC,think they will be awesome ? probably not

and there are going to be injuries,hopefully Dobbs can stay healthy,but he needs to learn to slide and not go pads first,or he will have a short season,if he goes down or should I say when ? then we will see if Dormady or who ever will be able to step up and run the offense

and lets not forget the Offensive line,they need to have a major improvement from last year or we can expect the same record as last years team

and middle linebacker is a huge question mark on the defensive side and the Defensive Tackles

I say a 6 or 7 wins this season and anything above that will be due to great coaching on Saturdays,CBJ will have to step it up on gameday for this to happen
 
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#95
livefaith said:
Worst case is more like,

Butch leaving for Vandy a week before the opener.
Hart brings Doolittle back as HC to stabilize
Dooley yanks Sal outta the panhandle for $2M/yr+20yr buyout
Clawson returns to take over as OC
then it gets really bad when the endzones get orange and smoky gray cheggardboards.

... at least that's the region I think of when I hear "worst case".
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Prozac anyone?....anyone?....
 
#96
#96
jarnol32 said:
How do you know whether or not dormady is ready. Furthermore how do you know that Dormady will beat sherion Jones out for the #2 spot? What happens if Dobbs gets hurt and dormady or jones is better? We are talking about a guy who has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns not a returning all american.
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Sheriron
 
#97
#97
jarnol32 said:
How do you know whether or not dormady is ready. Furthermore how do you know that Dormady will beat sherion Jones out for the #2 spot? What happens if Dobbs gets hurt and dormady or jones is better? We are talking about a guy who has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns not a returning all american.
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You are right, nobody really knows. But, the percentages are definitely in my favor. What does common sense tell you? That Dormady or Jones will lead us to victories during this meat grinder schedule we have? Two 18 year old fellas who have zero game experience and one of them has zero practice experience. Mine tells me that they will make costly mistakes and the losses will pile up. I won't be blaming them either. They need more practice and time in the program to help us beat sec teams. But, I'm all for one of them taking over for Dobbs and leading us to a respectable record! I just wouldn't put any money on it.
 
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#98
OrngeChkrboardVFL said:
There seems to be a continuing theme that we will be weak in the middle due to freshmen DT's. We have Danny O'Brien and Owen Williams?? If the freshmen start over them, they have proven that they are better.
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It's more about the inexperience factor. Especially for games early in the season last year. TKjr had a good season last year, but against Oklahoma he had one mental mistake that led directly to a TD.

Stuff like that often happens with even the most talented true freshmen. It's not just about pure talent. It's about mental fortitude and experience.
 
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#100
Eddie Vol Halen said:
I think Arkansas will be a solid team this year.

We should be better. The game is in Neyland.

We are basically saying Bielema was flat out a more bad-ass hire than Butch. That's what everyone is saying.

Forgive all the alliteration but that's either BullSh!te or Bollocks for us.
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Are you and chatttownvol420 friends? You both love to beat dead horses.
 
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