Worely was concussed.

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LawVol13 said:
You burn Worley's redshirt to try to win. He outperformed Matt Simms. If Bray stays healthy next year, let Worley redshirt then. I don't think it's a legitimate argument at all.
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This is exactly what a lot of people don't recognize.

Assuming Bray stays 4 years, Worley WILL be here 3 years behind Bray. What if we kept his redshirt, and Bray doesn't get hurt in his last 2 years? How much 'meaningful' time does anyone think Worley will get at QB with a healthy Bray?

We tried to redshirt Worley this year, but Bray got hurt. We try the same thing next year, and if Bray stays healthy, then Worley redshirts. If not, then you try it again when Bray is a Sr.

Worley has STARTED 3 games this year. There is no way he plays that much time in the next couple of years unless Bray gets hurt again.

Plus, seeing Worley this year gave me some hope for the post-Bray era. His arm is MUCH stronger than many were reporting.
 
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#28
Have you guys considered the fact that if Worely stayed in and had really gotten hurt then there was a strong possibility that it would be Simms against Vandy and Ky with Nance as the backup? That wouldn't help our chances to go bowling...
 
#29
#29
we will have a backup QB that have played some meaningful snaps next season.. why we all fighting again?
 
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#30
utvolpj said:
it's not for him to release this info. I seriously doubt Dooley cares if he left himself open to criticism from the OP or Erik Ainge
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Why is Eril Ainge even talking about anyone? From what all he did at UT. He wasn't that good of a QB anyways.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Worley played a decent game. He probably left the game with a little confidence. There was absolutely no reason to trot him out there and let him throw a pick 6 that destroys what progress he made.
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Sounds like common sense to me LawVol.....probably why most of the haters won't understand it
 
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LawVol13 said:
You burn Worley's redshirt to try to win. He outperformed Matt Simms. If Bray stays healthy next year, let Worley redshirt then. I don't think it's a legitimate argument at all.
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I don't know about you, but I think the public school system is failing some of these young men.
 
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#33
I don't buy for a second he was concussed. Why the hell was he walking around the sideline and not get taken to the locker room at all? You guys can make all the excuses but there is NO WAY he was concussed and not receive medical attention.
Hell he was visibly upset on the sideline.
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LawVol13 said:
Worley played a decent game. He probably left the game with a little confidence. There was absolutely no reason to trot him out there and let him throw a pick 6 that destroys what progress he made.
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I agree with this. I can see both sides of this argument. In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter.

Hindsight we should've just played Simms, but I agree with Dooley that he had to give it a shot to give us a better chance.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
Then he should've just left the redshirt on. I know we wouldn't have won anyways but wasn't the whole point of burning the redshirt for him to gain experience? Besides the thought that he gave us the better chance to win, of course. Yet he's been benched in 2 of the 3 games he's played.

Edit: The benching in the South Carolina game was more understandable because we still had a shot at winning.

All of this is irrelevant of course if what the OP posted is true.
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Ypu know he can still redshirt next year because he was never designated as a red shirt
 
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You know what I find funny about this? Ainge is essentially making the same argument I was making in 2006 regarding him. We already knew what Simms was capable of doing in the same way we knew what Ainge was capable of doing in 2006. My point was to yield playing time to other guys and let us see what we have and develope for the future. Essentially, Ainge is saying the samething re: Worley. We need to give him as many snaps as possible so that we can see what we have and hopefully build him.

Oh well, it is a moot point since Ainge jumped out and now has egg on his face if the concussion rumor is true. Ainge may as well go on the radio and say, "I agree with Rasputin. Simms and I should have been benched in favor of developing new qb's."

He would have my respect.
 
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jspvol76 said:
Why would you hide this?
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You would hide this because, at that time, you are not sure if Bray will be able to play against Vandy. If you
announce that Worley had a concussion, then there may be a mandtory time period that he has to sit out of practice or even the Vandy game.
If Bray isn't cleared to play in the Vandy game, and Worley isn't cleared to play against Vandy due to a concussion, then we have Simms and Nance at q.b.
 
#40
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Rudy123 said:
You would hide this because, at that time, you are not sure if Bray will be able to play against Vandy. If you
announce that Worley had a concussion, then there may be a mandtory time period that he has to sit out of practice or even the Vandy game.
If Bray isn't cleared to play in the Vandy game, and Worley isn't cleared to play against Vandy due to a concussion, then we have Simms and Nance at q.b.
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Great post. Hadn't thought about that.
 
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#41
I keep reading posts that say we can RS Worley. Questions: 1. Who would be our backup to Bray next year and 2. If he did RS, wouldn't that mean that Peterman had passed him up? The only scenario I can see that we would RS Worley next year would be due to an injury.
 
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tripper said:
I keep reading posts that say we can RS Worley. Questions: 1. Who would be our backup to Bray next year and 2. If he did RS, wouldn't that mean that Peterman had passed him up? The only scenario I can see that we would RS Worley next year would be due to an injury.
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How I think it's being imagined:

1a. Worley. In case of injury.
1b. Peterman or Nance. Mop up duty.

2. In this scenario, Worley would still get the reps with the 2s. Or the majority, at least.
 
#43
#43
LawVol13 said:
This makes no difference at all to me. I couldn't have cared less that they played the 2nd string qb in a game that was clearly over. That's called football. People crying and whining about it need to stop.
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
#44
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Carlitovol said:
I buy that argument if he had played in several games and had already seen significant playing time. But he's still extremely green and he needs all the experience he can get - especially a conference game on the road.

We all know CDD keeps playing the "youth/inexperience" card - and I agree that's a valid point. But if that's such a big issue, then put your money where your mouth is and play the young and inexperienced guys at every possible opportunity to allow them to grow/mature/develop into solid SEC football players as soon as possible.
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He started a true freshman on the road against a top 10 team. He played the entire game until it was clear we had absolutely no prayer of winning. There was nothing else to be gained from playing him some meaningless snaps. I think your argument just isn't in touch with reality.
 
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#45
Carl Pickens said:
Sounds like common sense to me LawVol.....probably why most of the haters won't understand it
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Most of the people that take issue with Simms going in just want something to cry about. If it wasn't Simms going in for a couple snaps, they'd make something else up to help themselves whine.
 
#46
#46
hillsborovol said:
This is exactly what a lot of people don't recognize.

Assuming Bray stays 4 years, Worley WILL be here 3 years behind Bray. What if we kept his redshirt, and Bray doesn't get hurt in his last 2 years? How much 'meaningful' time does anyone think Worley will get at QB with a healthy Bray?

We tried to redshirt Worley this year, but Bray got hurt. We try the same thing next year, and if Bray stays healthy, then Worley redshirts. If not, then you try it again when Bray is a Sr.

Worley has STARTED 3 games this year. There is no way he plays that much time in the next couple of years unless Bray gets hurt again.

Plus, seeing Worley this year gave me some hope for the post-Bray era. His arm is MUCH stronger than many were reporting.
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This was the year to redshirt Worley if it was going to happen. He was 3rd string and Matt Simms had experience. Next year is NOT the year to redshirt him. He will be 2nd string and the only other qb besides Bray to have experience. We will be redshirting the true freshman from Florida, Nathan Peterman. So who would that leave us to play when we get a big lead and are trying to protect Tyler, Nash Nance?
 
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#47
joshc said:
This was the year to redshirt Worley if it was going to happen. He was 3rd string and Matt Simms had experience. Next year is NOT the year to redshirt him. He will be 2nd string and the only other qb besides Bray to have experience. We will be redshirting the true freshman from Florida, Nathan Peterman. So who would that leave us to play when we get a big lead and are trying to protect Tyler, Nash Nance?
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I think you just answered your own question.
 
#48
#48
LawVol13 said:
I think you just answered your own question.
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I just don't think we redshirt our 2nd string qb. Having said that, I have zero problem with Dooley burning the shirt. The team always comes first, and you put the guy out there that gives you the best chance to win, and in my opinion it is Worley over Simms.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I think you just answered your own question.
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Do you think by playing him we opened up the possibility of him transferring. he would have to sit out one year and then get to play 2 years where as here he is looking at only playing one year here assuming Bray stays 4 years.
 
#50
#50
VolBeef88 said:
I don't buy for a second he was concussed. Why the hell was he walking around the sideline and not get taken to the locker room at all? You guys can make all the excuses but there is NO WAY he was concussed and not receive medical attention.
Hell he was visibly upset on the sideline.
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just because you've been to the doctor doesn't mean you're a medical expert any more than playing NCAA football on Xbox makes you a football coach
 
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