With Davis and Gruden out of the way....

Who can you be sold on?

Brewster is at Minn. and they still suck. I can't name a great player on that team. And he is supposed to be a good recruiter?

Kelly may be a good coach but not the fit for TN. I don't see what he can bring to the table. IMO.

Kiffin has to be no.1. He can recruit, he should bring a stella cast with him and he is young and lord he did land the best college football player I have ever seen in Bush.

IMO the list should go:

1. Kiffin
2. Peterson
3. Muschamp
LOL...I can't name many players in Big 10+1 football, so discount that part. But you can't deny he has been able to recruit players at Minnesota that others (including Foley) couldn't. Don't get me wrong, I think he is still too unproven at this point to consider for the job.
 
Muschamp is way overrated.

You should waste time on Leach because he's had ONE season of note at the same time the UT job just happens to be open.

If CPF was let go last season Leach wouldn't even be talked about.

You are using USC's success while Kiffin was there against him for some reason.

So I guess it comes down to what you find more impressive between Kelly and Kiffin. Both have positives and negatives.

Do you value a DII title as HC (Kelly) more than what Kiffin did while at USC?

2 DII titles, MAC title, and he is in a good position to own a Big East title this year. I think the next logical step is a true Power Conference like the SEC.

Kiffin has accomplished nothing as a head coach and his success at USC has been duplicated by others.
 
Check muschamp's D in all of UT's big games this year.

Compare that to his Ds of multiple teams over several years. He will be a successful coach. The question is, will it be in Knoxville?

BTW, please use the term "the other UT" when referring to the Longhorns! :)
 
I can see that you and I could argue this all day and still get nowhere. If your argument on Muschamp is limited to, he is "overrated" then that is pretty weak.

Leach and Kelly have both been successful HCs, Kiffin has not. Kiffin's success should be questioned and not just accepted as belonging solely to him, because it happened at one school for a couple of years.

But let's save ourselves and everyone else some time and grief and agree to disagree. :good!:

Maybe I want to keep debating so I can see that avatar more.

I'll be happy with Kiffin or Kelly but not Leach.
 
2 DII titles, MAC title, and he is in a good position to own a Big East title this year. I think the next logical step is a true Power Conference like the SEC.

Kiffin has accomplished nothing as a head coach and his success at USC has been duplicated by others.

Can Kelly recruit against Spurrier, Miles, Saban, Meyer and Richt?

Kiffin can.
 
If Clemson hires Kiffin and Hamilton hires Leach, then Hamilton leaves UT to go back to his alma mater...

nvm...
 
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