With Crompton expect a 5 or less win season

#51
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rscook75 said:
I have to agree with this. We haven't won a single game against a major college football program, and after this week against Ohio we still won't have.

Auburn is going to tell us if we have a 5 or a 7 win season with Crompton.

"Oh please God, let all three QB's get some playing time in the Ohio game..."
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We had a 5-7 season last year with Stephens starting half the games.
 
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billbattle said:
Auburn, I would agree, only because they were just as inept on offense as us. Georgia? I never got a sense that we could have won that game.
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This appears to have changed dramatically. Whatever stars that needed to align for Chris Todd to get a clue have aligned, and their run game is solid. Their OL is probably also better/deeper than we have. It will be an excellent measuring stick.
 
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#53
Oh, yeah. Some real brainiacs on this board. Kiffin said himself they are pretty close. It is painfully obvious that Crompton is not a baller. Sure he may practice well but who gives a crap when the on-field product is the worse ever, ever, EVER. If Nick Stephens doesn't get a chance this weekend he should quit ala BJ Coleman. Maybe he saw something we didn't.
 
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Vanity of Duluoz said:
Crompton needs to live in the moment from handing the ball to the four talented running backs we currently have and blocking for them down the field, he has become one the biggest wastes of a scholarship I've witnessed. In his last game speech he needs to thank the school for the free education, which he did not earn through this commitment to the university.
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From what I can tell, the kid works hard every day and tries to get better. Saying he did not earn his degree through his commitment to the university is just outright wrong. His commitment to the university is to go to class and earn his degree. His commitment to the athletic department is to work hard, give 100%, and do his very best. I believe he has done all of those things. Would you, I, or anyone else have turned down a full scholarship to play our sport of choice and get an education paid for? The fact is, he has not developed into the QB everyone hoped he would and he is no different than thousands of other players out there who get full rides and never develop. It happens. Saying a guy didn't earn his scholarship because his ability isn't what you think it should be isn't fair to him.
 
#55
#55
The only real solution is to let Crompton run the show and for Kiffin to call really good games, where mistakes are minimal and the run game is really the bread winner, superbowl teams have won just like this
 
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#56
There is also no way this team is behind Crompton. Media speak is one thing. But you watch what I tell you. When Crompton loses another game due to his poor play the wheels will begin falling off. How can you not give another guy a shot?
 
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SGMVols said:
Stephens isn't any better. In fact, the stats last year showed he was worse than Crompton. Not to mention Stephens lost the Wyoming game for us.
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Great point but you missed one huge key. Crompton had 4 years under his belt as compared to Stephens so the drop off should of been greater. Crompton should of been able to take the reigns easy. He sucks therefore we lose. If Stephens truly is worse then expect a long season.
 
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TennesseeT said:
Oh, yeah. Some real brainiacs on this board. Kiffin said himself they are pretty close. It is painfully obvious that Crompton is not a baller. Sure he may practice well but who gives a crap when the on-field product is the worse ever, ever, EVER. If Nick Stephens doesn't get a chance this weekend he should quit ala BJ Coleman. Maybe he saw something we didn't.
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Um like the fact he was an overrated twerp? And why would Nick Stephens quit when it's his fault he can't win the starting job? He's probably getting the starting nod next year if he shows up.
 
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Vanity of Duluoz said:
The only real solution is to let Crompton run the show and for Kiffin to call really good games, where mistakes are minimal and the run game is really the bread winner, superbowl teams have won just like this
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No the only real solution is to put his a$$ on the bench and to bring in a QB that throws to his own team. If Nick can't hack it then it's Wildcat time. Hell, that's no more predictable than the swing pass left, swing pass right, handoff left, handoff right, handoff up the middle, toss sweep crap that they're running now.
 
#63
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rscook75 said:
I have to agree with this. We haven't won a single game against a major college football program, and after this week against Ohio we still won't have.

Auburn is going to tell us if we have a 5 or a 7 win season with Crompton.

"Oh please God, let all three QB's get some playing time in the Ohio game..."
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Now this is a post of reason. Auburn is make or break us. If we can't beat Auburn at home what aspirations should we have?
 
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strongtower said:
Great point but you missed one huge key. Crompton had 4 years under his belt as compared to Stephens so the drop off should of been greater. Crompton should of been able to take the reigns easy. He sucks therefore we lose. If Stephens truly is worse then expect a long season.
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Stephens is only one year younger. Not a huge difference between a 3rd year and a 4th year player. Bottom line, if Stephens is truly better than Crompton, he would have already been the starter.
 
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Vanity of Duluoz said:
Everyone deserves a second chance within reason, and whatever is ailing him as far as decisions or mechanics, which ever I hope it can be modestly corrected.
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IMHO, his problem isn't so easy to deal with as mechanics or footwork. He's got all the skills and talent you'd want according to this staff and even another NFL QB guru (whose name eludes me right now).

His problem doesn't seem to be timing or decision making in practice even with the stress of competition that CLK created.

His problem is some kind of disconnect that occurs between what he's fully capable of doing very well and what he does when the bright lights come on.

I don't think there are many teams that will abuse UF's D through the air. They are flat out good in their back 7. But I'm less sure after this game that JC can get it done... and honestly that's based on one play.

It is based on that throw away that should have been called grounding. He didn't even look across the field to see if someone was breaking open. He apparently didn't consider tucking it and running for a few yards. He simply heaved it while under no pressure at all... to a side of the field where UT didn't have a single player. I defended his INT's against UCLA and haven't changed my mind. I don't think his INT's against UF hurt nor were they terrible plays. That throw away though seemed to reveal that the guy plays outside of himself sometimes... that he loses emotional control under pressure.

I honesty don't know for sure... I just hope that if Kiffin sticks with him, JC is able to pull it all together and if CLK doesn't that NS gets it done better.

At this point I have to wonder if Nick's arm strength wouldn't put secondaries on their heels more and create more room for the run game.
 
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question, the obvious problems at quarterback, who or what would blame this on? Recruiting, or a bad evaluation of talent when recruiting?
 
#68
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SGMVols said:
7 or 8
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The Vol fan in me would like to think so, but CLK's gameplan is just so constricted because of QB play...and because of other mistakes on the field.

I think QB is by far our greatest concern, but what is with G. Jones making 2 bad plays at the WORST time possible in 2 straight games??!!??

If we are going to win 8, then then major mistakes at the other positions has to stop...
 
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#69
Brewerw said:
Um like the fact he was an overrated twerp? And why would Nick Stephens quit when it's his fault he can't win the starting job? He's probably getting the starting nod next year if he shows up.
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Because it appears he is not getting a fair shake due to some alterior motive i.e, recruiting. Kiffing didn't decide on a starter until the last few days, said they were very close. If one isn't carrying practice to the field then yank his a$$ and try something new. What's the worse that could happen?
 
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rscook75 said:
The Vol fan in me would like to think so, but CLK's gameplan is just so constricted because of QB play...and because of other mistakes on the field.

I think QB is by far our greatest concern, but what is with G. Jones making 2 bad plays at the WORST time possible in 2 straight games??!!??

If we are going to win 8, then then major mistakes at the other positions has to stop...
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7 if we lose to UGA, 8 if we beat them.

I still stand by that.
 
#72
#72
I agree with both answers, yet it seems counter intuitive about the OL, I mean that was the bread and butter of our teams for years.
 
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utvolpj said:
I wish that were true but rumor is his nickname is Pick Nick.
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For God sakes what is there to lose. How many Int's has JC thrown again this season? How many TD's? It's not like we're talking about benching any of the previous 10 UT QB's.

I've been watching football a long time and last year when Stephens hit the field I at least saw a QB out there. Crompton has no identity.
 
#74
#74
I think there's about an equal chance of winning 5 games as there is to winning 7, depending on breaks, injuiries, luck, and the phase of the moon. We have a great defense this year, but we did last year also, and we only won 5 games. We will be very fortunate to win more than 6 unless we develop some diversity in our offense or Crompton improves a great deal. Kiffin might, since he now knows Crompton's limitations, succeed in changing the offensive playcalling to use him in a more effective way. I do think he will be able to do this, and we win seven games.
 
#75
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SGMVols said:
7 if we lose to UGA, 8 if we beat them.

I still stand by that.
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I don't disagree totally (my ceiling was 7, but IF we beat Georgia)...but I'm not running over to Vegas and throwing down my life savings...

The defense better start returning them to the house, or otherwise they do us no good.

Please Tyler Bray, be who we hope you are.
 
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