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Tin Man said:
The common denominator is that everyone knows you’re a prick. Really, I’m posting this to try to help you, but, you’re an oblivious prick.
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Thanks for proving my point. I’m done here. Good luck Rusty, you really need some sort of luck to change your ways.
 
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Tin Man said:
If that is what you see in my post(s), then, truly, I’ve missed the mark. It is puzzling to see you let pass the posts of others only to take public exception to mine. I’ll refrain from posting conjecture. You know how to reach me if in earnest I’ve offended your sensibilities.
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Waaaay tl;dr: (1) Self-awareness. (2) Filters. Get some. Use some.

Erebody else, feel free to save yourselves a couple of minutes or hours and move on to another post.


So I have no idea why you do the things you do, just as I have no idea why Behr or Gordon or Slice do what they do, all of whom have startled me greatly at one time or another. You have the right to act here however you like, within Freak’s tolerance levels, as we all do. What neither you nor the rest of us have the right to do is force others to accept our quirkiness without objection. Everyone gets to say “Naw, man,” and walk away.

You always bring up the “why me” thing. That gets into how my mind works, I suppose. I am firmly on the autism spectrum (and like it, btw.) For those unfamiliar with ASD, think Sheldon on Big Bang Theory I guess (I’ve never watched it) or Greta Thunberg IRL. I’m a very watered-down version of Greta, to be sure, and the now-unused term Asperger’s Syndrome fits me to a T instead. I don’t understand other people at all, but I’m fascinated by them, and I’ve spent nearly 70 years trying to figure them out and how to interact in a way that they are comfortable with me, and I am comfortable with them, while at the same time not being dishonest to myself or requiring that they be the same to themselves. Not fakes, in other words, but accepting that we’re different, and that this is fine; interesting, even, as we find common ground with one another.

Whenever someone is wired differently (= neurodivergent) from others, as I am, life becomes like being an eternal tourist in a foreign country. You spend a lot of time trying to figure out the common mannerisms and learn what everyone else has known and understood since birth, not to mention learning the language and all the various accents. Some on the spectrum struggle with the entire concept of answering “How are you?”, because many of us are very, very literal and feel impelled to verbally download everything that has happened to us in the most recent measurable span of time, as I suppose I am doing now. We literally have to be taught that “How are you?” means “Hello, fellow human, I acknowledge you and send vague but good vibes in your direction.”

So (desperately attempts to drag this thing back on some sort of track), my particular version of ASD, which involves a bit of an obsession with patterns, is this: I get really crazy when I feel that someone is illogical or dishonest (also unkind/ unfair.) The illogical/ dishonest bit means that they are being inconsistent with what I have seen them reveal of themselves. If someone consistently is all Go Vols, but for an individual game they’re suddenly Go Fightin’ Veeblesnorpers against UT, I get all wat-wat-wat-wat-wat. And if someone consistently acts as if they somewhat grasp the reality of what women (including their wives) have to put up with from total strangers on a daily basis, but then express best wishes for a woman’s new baby followed immediately by publicly hoping that he gets to see her whip out her boob to feed said child, then piss on ‘em. That is inconsistent with what they’ve said before, which feels very like a lie. Now if every third post mentions their wish that one woman or another would whip out a boob (possibly two), then I just roll my eyes and go on. No inconsistency there with previous posts.

FWIW, I adore most inconsistencies, because I like to see patterns break. @volfanbill ’s Legos give me enormous joy, not least because I know that I will never step on one barefoot at 2 am. But that doesn’t contradict all the other things he’s revealed. It just opens a door into another room. But of course, you’ve managed to get on his bad side too; oh well. - apologies Bill for @ ing you into this mess.

So you be you, I’m really not trying to fix you, I’m just baffled by your all-over-the-map stuff.
 
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VolNExile said:
Waaaay tl;dr: (1) Self-awareness. (2) Filters. Get some. Use some.

Erebody else, feel free to save yourselves a couple of minutes or hours and move on to another post.


So I have no idea why you do the things you do, just as I have no idea why Behr or Gordon or Slice do what they do, all of whom have startled me greatly at one time or another. You have the right to act here however you like, within Freak’s tolerance levels, as we all do. What neither you nor the rest of us have the right to do is force others to accept our quirkiness without objection. Everyone gets to say “Naw, man,” and walk away.

You always bring up the “why me” thing. That gets into how my mind works, I suppose. I am firmly on the autism spectrum (and like it, btw.) For those unfamiliar with ASD, think Sheldon on Big Bang Theory I guess (I’ve never watched it) or Greta Thunberg IRL. I’m a very watered-down version of Greta, to be sure, and the now-unused term Asperger’s Syndrome fits me to a T instead. I don’t understand other people at all, but I’m fascinated by them, and I’ve spent nearly 70 years trying to figure them out and how to interact in a way that they are comfortable with me, and I am comfortable with them, while at the same time not being dishonest to myself or requiring that they be the same to themselves. Not fakes, in other words, but accepting that we’re different, and that this is fine; interesting, even, as we find common ground with one another.

Whenever someone is wired differently (= neurodivergent) from others, as I am, life becomes like being an eternal tourist in a foreign country. You spend a lot of time trying to figure out the common mannerisms and learn what everyone else has known and understood since birth, not to mention learning the language and all the various accents. Some on the spectrum struggle with the entire concept of answering “How are you?”, because many of us are very, very literal and feel impelled to verbally download everything that has happened to us in the most recent measurable span of time, as I suppose I am doing now. We literally have to be taught that “How are you?” means “Hello, fellow human, I acknowledge you and send vague but good vibes in your direction.”

So (desperately attempts to drag this thing back on some sort of track), my particular version of ASD, which involves a bit of an obsession with patterns, is this: I get really crazy when I feel that someone is illogical or dishonest (also unkind/ unfair.) The illogical/ dishonest bit means that they are being inconsistent with what I have seen them reveal of themselves. If someone consistently is all Go Vols, but for an individual game they’re suddenly Go Fightin’ Veeblesnorpers against UT, I get all wat-wat-wat-wat-wat. And if someone consistently acts as if they somewhat grasp the reality of what women (including their wives) have to put up with from total strangers on a daily basis, but then express best wishes for a woman’s new baby followed immediately by publicly hoping that he gets to see her whip out her boob to feed said child, then piss on ‘em. That is inconsistent with what they’ve said before, which feels very like a lie. Now if every third post mentions their wish that one woman or another would whip out a boob (possibly two), then I just roll my eyes and go on. No inconsistency there with previous posts.

FWIW, I adore most inconsistencies, because I like to see patterns break. @volfanbill ’s Legos give me enormous joy, not least because I know that I will never step on one barefoot at 2 am. But that doesn’t contradict all the other things he’s revealed. It just opens a door into another room. But of course, you’ve managed to get on his bad side too; oh well. - apologies Bill for @ ing you into this mess.

So you be you, I’m really not trying to fix you, I’m just baffled by your all-over-the-map stuff.
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Very insightful and fascinating.
 
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Tin Man said:
I’m pleased as punch that Kim Caldwell is the head coach of the Lady Vols. I’m happy for her that she wants children and is pregnant. I foresee only good things for her and the Lady Vols, and if there’s an iconic picture of Coach Caldwell breast feeding her baby while coaching, I’ll proudly wear the t-shirt. GLVs.
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@VolNExile, you read the above as my wanting to see a nursing mother’s breast(?!). I wrote the above in the context of the conversation around Caldwell’s pregnancy. The final phrase emphatically punctuating the absurdity. I don’t care what bill and the usual nattering nabobs will post in response to this, but I’d rather you not think me a misogynist.
 
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Tin Man said:
@VolNExile, you read the above as my wanting to see a nursing mother’s breast(?!). I wrote the above in the context of the conversation around Caldwell’s pregnancy. The final phrase emphatically punctuating the absurdity. I don’t care what bill and the usual nattering nabobs will post in response to this, but I’d rather you not think me a misogynist.
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Then don’t post as if you were. That is the whole point: be aware of how your posts are likely to land on others. Not just “well I didn’t mean it that way.” Online posting is great for getting feedback that you might not get face-to-face -> maybe people are too polite to not want to say it; maybe they just don’t want to get into endless yadayada.

We all have to learn to temper what we say to fit our listeners. If we do, we’re communicating. If we don’t, we’re just talking.

The way that other people interpret/ receive things doesn’t have to seem right or make sense to you. It just is; it’s a fact about them.

<off to do homework>
 
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Behr said:
BMW reference?

You sure you wanna be seen having lunch with a nattering nabob?
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1. Boy Meets World. That’s Cory Matthews, future husband of Topanga. Otherwise known as Ben Savage, Fred Savage’s little bro.

2. It was a joke from a comment you made weeks ago about pleading for a meetup… but us nabobs gotta stick together if we’re ever going to make it in this crazy world
 
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VolNExile said:
Then don’t post as if you were. That is the whole point: be aware of how your posts are likely to land on others. Not just “well I didn’t mean it that way.” Online posting is great for getting feedback that you might not get face-to-face -> maybe people are too polite to not want to say it; maybe they just don’t want to get into endless yadayada.

We all have to learn to temper what we say to fit our listeners. If we do, we’re communicating. If we don’t, we’re just talking.

The way that other people interpret/ receive things doesn’t have to seem right or make sense to you. It just is; it’s a fact about them.

<off to do homework>
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There’s nary a soul on the last few pages of this thread that gives a millisecond of thought to how their post is going to be received by others. Thanks(?) for holding me to a higher standard…
 
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If anyone gets this reference, I’ll be shocked, but I’m posting it anyway
 
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