Will Yr 2 be tougher than Yr 1

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IMO, year one.

1) Attrition ( players leave for whatever reason)
2) New coaching staff with new offensive and defensive systems
3) Schedule
 
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Remy said:
Let's see how Kirby does with Kirby's kids before predicting a dynasty for the dawgs. What he did this year and last he did with Richt's kids. He loses 31 to graduation this spring. Let's see how they fare next year.
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Fromm was Kirby’s kid, so was Swift, and many others. Name the 31 players we’re losing to graduation.
 
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OH-Vol said:
His logic is pretty clear, The 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes were garbage
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regardless how those classes were the offense will be entirely back basically in year 2 from year 1. so thats an irrelevant point u got there. if that was clear enough for you
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Just baffles me how we went from dark horse playoff contenders to SEC cellar dweller in 18 mo. We apparently recruited no one behind Dobbs, JRM, Kamara, and Barnett.
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Pretty simple, the hyped 2015 class turned out to be a colossal disaster:

McKenzie - Bust
Picou - Bust
Phillips - Bust
Tuttle - Bust (injuries)
Butcher - Bust (injuries)
Kirkland - Bust (injuries)
Griffin - Gone

J Jones - Gone (injuries)
Stewart - Gone
Williams - Gone
Boulware - Gone
Oliver - Gone
Perry - Gone
Bruce - Gone
S Jones - Gone
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Butch's game plans were conservative. Play it close and win it or lose it on the last drive. We lost to teams where we allowed them hang in there and then ending up beating us.

On 3rd down in the red zone, how many time did we run the ball to line up for kicking the field goal? How many times did it trick the defense and score?

I expect CJP and his crew to have more aggressive game plans.

2018 the year of the Vol.
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honestly i wonder if you guys believe what you write sometimes. Butch jones wasnt the most succesful coach im aware of that so no need to tell me how bad he was.Where do you come up with though his game plan was to win on final drive. Nobodies game plan is to win on the final drive. obviously in football games especially in the SEC it comes down to the final drive of the game but how do you say that was his game plan.
 
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UTVOLS1614 said:
honestly i wonder if you guys believe what you write sometimes. Butch jones wasnt the most succesful coach im aware of that so no need to tell me how bad he was.Where do you come up with though his game plan was to win on final drive. Nobodies game plan is to win on the final drive. obviously in football games especially in the SEC it comes down to the final drive of the game but how do you say that was his game plan.
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Butch talked about keeping it close and giving us a chance to win at the end.

I doubt any coach would say it in the exact words I used, but actions speak louder than words.

With a lead he would get more conservative. When behind he would open it up to get back in the game just to go conservative again. That's just from my own observations of the games.
 
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terrypedigo said:
It will take the 4th year for us to compete for the East, we are in bad shape plus the East is a lot stronger than when we had other coaching changes as bad as i hate to say this the dawgs will be on a 10 year run like bama some won't like to hear that but fact is fact.
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So your ten year prediction is a fact or opinion?
 
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Secfan18 said:
Is that the battle cry of rival fanbases, that Kirby is winning with Richt's players lets see what he does with his player? Take a long look at that statement, Kirby has 2 classes that are his, one was number 3 and the other was number 1, even the transition class where he stayed at Bama just like Pruitt did was number 9. In 18 alone, he signed the top RB class, the top OL class, the top TE class and the top LB class in the country. He just signed the top

He signed the top DT QB, top RB, top AP RB, top TE, top OG in the country, the number 2 SDE, number 2WDE, 2 3 and 4 OLB, number 4 CB. For 19 he has committed the number 1 and 4 WR committed, number 2 WDE committed and currently the top class.

So yeah, UGA fans are waiting to see what he can do with nothing but Kirby players too, Kirby is and has been the top recruiter in the country for several years, kids love the staff and apparently love the new hires, UGA didn't miss on a single kid in the early signing period or the normal signing period with a new position coach taking Sherrer's place. Be careful in what you wish for, last chance for UT to beat UGA in the next 5 years is this fall, and those aren't very good.
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You just ruined my night with your stupid facts.
 
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Remy said:
Let's see how Kirby does with Kirby's kids before predicting a dynasty for the dawgs. What he did this year and last he did with Richt's kids. He loses 31 to graduation this spring. Let's see how they fare next year.
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The first thing he'll need is a decent recruiting class.
 
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Behr said:
The first thing he'll need is a decent recruiting class.
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There's a lot of meat on the bone but it's scary the fast start that Clemson, UGA and Bama are off to for 2019. I assume the kids those programs are taking commits from are the same one that CJP and staff would hope to have a chance at based on relationships and would have a need for based on common styles of play. It seems like we're already behind the 8 ball.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There's a lot of meat on the bone but it's scary the fast start that Clemson, UGA and Bama are off to for 2019. I assume the kids those programs are taking commits from are the same one that CJP and staff would hope to have a chance at based on relationships and would have a need for based on common styles of play. It seems like we're already behind the 8 ball.
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I get tired of reading "we'll just have to wait and see". Well no chit!

Lulz, and " he's done what he's done with Mark Richts players". Yea, how many NC games did Mark play for with his players?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There's a lot of meat on the bone but it's scary the fast start that Clemson, UGA and Bama are off to for 2019. I assume the kids those programs are taking commits from are the same one that CJP and staff would hope to have a chance at based on relationships and would have a need for based on common styles of play. It seems like we're already behind the 8 ball.
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Scar also runs the same system. Muschamp has done pretty well at picking that level of kid a tick below what uga And bama have been taking and also sprinkling in some highly regarded kids (jameyst Williams & rick sandidge) Muschamp sells big fish small pond. It’ll be interesting to see how the talent gets dispersed
 
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well, Coach P has seven steps for coaching...hope he can get them all in the first year...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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Remy said:
Let's see how Kirby does with Kirby's kids before predicting a dynasty for the dawgs. What he did this year and last he did with Richt's kids. He loses 31 to graduation this spring. Let's see how they fare next year.
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Yeah everyone is talking about how great a job Kirby is doing. He was left a gold mine with all the talent Richt left him. And if you can't recruit in the state of Georgia and that being your hometown. Then there is a problem. Kirby road Saban's coat tail for years an got the Georgia job with all that talent.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Yeah everyone is talking about how great a job Kirby is doing. He was left a gold mine with all the talent Richt left him. And if you can't recruit in the state of Georgia and that being your hometown. Then there is a problem. Kirby road Saban's coat tail for years an got the Georgia job with all that talent.
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Lulz.
 
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UTVOLS1614 said:
honestly i wonder if you guys believe what you write sometimes. Butch jones wasnt the most succesful coach im aware of that so no need to tell me how bad he was.Where do you come up with though his game plan was to win on final drive. Nobodies game plan is to win on the final drive. obviously in football games especially in the SEC it comes down to the final drive of the game but how do you say that was his game plan.
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Oh, they believe it alright. You'll have to quit your job and stay on here 24/7 to call-out all the silliness.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Yeah everyone is talking about how great a job Kirby is doing. He was left a gold mine with all the talent Richt left him. And if you can't recruit in the state of Georgia and that being your hometown. Then there is a problem. Kirby road Saban's coat tail for years an got the Georgia job with all that talent.
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You're right, but he was able to coach that talent and get them to a championship where Richt could not. If you're going to have a discussion atleast point out both sides to it.
 
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In year two, Pruitt will have 2 full classes of his players on the roster and will be in year two of implementing his systems and culture. I don’t see any way that year 2 is more difficult than year 1. As a matter of fact, I think it’ll be much better, much more successful.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Yeah everyone is talking about how great a job Kirby is doing. He was left a gold mine with all the talent Richt left him. And if you can't recruit in the state of Georgia and that being your hometown. Then there is a problem. Kirby road Saban's coat tail for years an got the Georgia job with all that talent.
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Not sure what I just read:hi:
 
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