Will Trump choose to not run in 2020

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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Bankruptcy court has allowed some of his businesses to not quit. Do you understand the difference between personal bankruptcy (which Trump has never filed) and owning a corporation that's had its debt restructured through Chapter 11?
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A Trump run company has quit on their debt obligations 6 times. I know "restructured" is the proper term but that didn't fit into my one-liner as well.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Bankruptcy court has allowed some of his businesses to not quit. Do you understand the difference between personal bankruptcy (which Trump has never filed) and owning a corporation that's had its debt restructured through Chapter 11?
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Trump businesses quit paying their debt so Trump quit the business. You're trying to polish a turd.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
A Trump run company has quit on their debt obligations 6 times. I know "restructured" is the proper term but that didn't fit into my one-liner as well.
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How many hundreds of companies has he been the controlling shareholder of? The lenders knew the risk. That's business. They could have required a personal guarantee or elected to not issue the debt. But repeating that Trump went bankrupt multiple times keeps feeding the low information liberals their talking points. Most that fuss about it likely have no clue what the difference is between Ch 7, 11, and 13.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
More ignorance. Tax returns don't include balance sheets. It sure stirs up the liberal sheep to keep repeating the nonsense though.
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Sorry are there personal balance sheets when filing individual returns that wouldn't show he quit paying his business debts?
 
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Mick said:
Sorry are there personal balance sheets when filing individual returns that wouldn't show he quit paying his business debts?
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Why would "he" ever pay a business debt for a corporation? The whole concept of a corporation is to separate a business from an individual. I'd be concerned if Trump had organized his businesses in a way that exposed his personal holdings to the financial risk of launching a new enterprise when about half of new businesses fail within a decade.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
More ignorance. Tax returns don't include balance sheets. It sure stirs up the liberal sheep to keep repeating the nonsense though.
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They don't but if you reviewed the individual returns plus the closely held business returns, you can unwind and back into a reasonable net worth approximation. I think the reason Trump doesn't want those returns released is because that review will show he's only worth a fraction of what he claims hes worth. (He'd still be a billionaire but I'm guessing that will be low 10 figures versus the 11 figure number he claims).
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Why would "he" ever pay a business debt for a corporation? The whole concept of a corporation is to separate a business from an individual. I'd be concerned if Trump had organized his businesses in a way that exposed his personal holdings to the financial risk of launching a new enterprise when about half of new businesses fail within a decade.
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You can say a lot of things about Trump (and I have) but he is smarter than the liberals give him credit for. He is probably better at branding than he is at real estate.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
They don't but if you reviewed the individual returns plus the closely held business returns, you can unwind and back into a reasonable net worth approximation. I think the reason Trump doesn't want those returns released is because that review will show he's only worth a fraction of what he claims hes worth. (He'd still be a billionaire but I'm guessing that will be low 10 figures versus the 11 figure number he claims).
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I think that the reason he doesn't release his returns is because of the feeding frenzy that would follow as every possible entry is dissected and published without context by the leftist media that attacks every possible angle about his life. Last week he took a sip of water and touched the glass with his other hand.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Last week he took a sip of water and touched the glass with his other hand.
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He needed the second hand to even get it to his mouth. It's a legit criticism when his campaign is raising the issue of fitness. Sometimes there are circumstances but he had to know what that looked like coupled with the shuffling down a ramp. I don't remember the right being too upset when they were calling out Hillary for similar actions
 
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utvolpj said:
He needed the second hand to even get it to his mouth. It's a legit criticism when his campaign is raising the issue of fitness. Sometimes there are circumstances but he had to know what that looked like coupled with the shuffling down a ramp. I don't remember the right being too upset when they were calling out Hillary for similar actions
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utvolpj said:
He needed the second hand to even get it to his mouth. It's a legit criticism when his campaign is raising the issue of fitness. Sometimes there are circumstances but he had to know what that looked like coupled with the shuffling down a ramp. I don't remember the right being too upset when they were calling out Hillary for similar actions
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Hillary was falling down and had to be held up before falling all the way to the ground. Trump took a sip of water and made a goofy gesture.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Hillary was falling down and had to be held up before falling all the way to the ground. Trump took a sip of water and made a goofy gesture.
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He couldn't lift a glass to his mouth with one hand. Maybe he had a big shoulder day in the gym but it was a bad look. He also looked pretty bad going down a ramp. Maybe it was leather soles but he needs to address it if fitness is a big part of his campaign
 
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utvolpj said:
He couldn't lift a glass to his mouth with one hand. Maybe he had a big shoulder day in the gym but it was a bad look. He also looked pretty bad going down a ramp. Maybe it was leather soles but he needs to address it if fitness is a big part of his campaign
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Maybe it's all a big nothing burger and he's cat fishing the insane conspiracy theorists. He also held his bible upside down. Oh, the horror!!!
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Why would "he" ever pay a business debt for a corporation? The whole concept of a corporation is to separate a business from an individual. I'd be concerned if Trump had organized his businesses in a way that exposed his personal holdings to the financial risk of launching a new enterprise when about half of new businesses fail within a decade.
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By your concept, trump deserves none of the blame for bad debt but need to be praised because he himself hasn't ever filed for bankruptcy. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with his failed business. Is that the card you're trying to play or are you trying to defend Trump as not a quitter? A business failure but not a quitter. He lost nearly a billion dollars of other peoples money but you still want him to run the government. In the capitalist indoctrinated part of life, that's to be celebrated. Really if I could lose a billion dollars of other people money and come out smelling like a rose on the other side, I would be happy but the people that got sh!t on along the way wouldn't.
 
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Mick said:
By your concept, trump deserves none of the credit for bad debt but need to be praised because he himself hasn't ever filed for bankruptcy. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with his failed business. Is that the card you're trying to play or are you trying to defend Trump as not a quitter? A business failure but not a quitter.
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I don't know how to begin addressing this confused post, but the whole point of going into business is usually to increase one's personal wealth. I don't think that he failed. He actually evolved the model from real estate holdings and development to creating a brand and collecting royalties and licensing fees as a bigger part of the revenue mix than just rent, lease receipts, and flipping properties. How the liberals can spin somebody well into the 99th percentile of successful business people as a failure is beyond me.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I don't know how to begin addressing this confused post, but the whole point of going into business is usually to increase one's personal wealth. I don't think that he failed. He actually evolved the model from real estate holdings and development to creating a brand and collecting royalties and licensing fees as a bigger part of the revenue mix than just rent, lease receipts, and flipping properties. How the liberals can spin somebody well into the 99th percentile of successful business people as a failure is beyond me.
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Hell, you're trying to spin Trump as a model of personal success and not a quitter because he didn't file personal bankruptcies but many of his companies LLC's did.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I don't know how to begin addressing this confused post, but the whole point of going into business is usually to increase one's personal wealth. I don't think that he failed. He actually evolved the model from real estate holdings and development to creating a brand and collecting royalties and licensing fees as a bigger part of the revenue mix than just rent, lease receipts, and flipping properties. How the liberals can spin somebody well into the 99th percentile of successful business people as a failure is beyond me.
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He's obviously not a failure but it helps to start off in the 1% of 1% percenters and move up from there....
 
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