Will this years defense come close to Chavis' last year?

#51
#51
I was always a fan of Chavis and thought he put some great defenses on the field. I find it hard to believe he was such a fool considering he was promptly picked up by LSU, which right now would be really hard to argue is a demotion from UT. I see where you guys are coming from but I dont feel that way.
 
#52
#52
Bear Bryant said:
I was always a fan of Chavis and thought he put some great defenses on the field. I find it hard to believe he was such a fool considering he was promptly picked up by LSU, which right now would be really hard to argue is a demotion from UT. I see where you guys are coming from but I dont feel that way.
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I wouldn't call LSU a demotion either. LSU before Saban yeah it would be a demotion but not now. I am actually glad Chavis didn't go to UGA. He has great defenses that would only get better being able to keep Georgia talent in state. Hopefully for LSU's sake this keeps them from their irreversable slide downhill since Saban left.
 
#53
#53
General Jack said:
.....Additionally, Monte's defensive philosophy appears to be more of a "bend but don't break while creating turnovers...." so I could see us giving up more yards than last year but forcing more turnovers.
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That is what i would expect, Monte absolutely preaches take a ways and the effect this stat has on wins and losses. Also how just making a quarterback pressure is almost as good as a sack as passes get hurried - better to intercept, etc. His defense will give up more yards, but there will be more blitzes, more pressure to the QB. The defensive tackles will drop back into coverage while the corners will rush the qb from the outside. Some of these opposing coaches will not who to defend.
 
#54
#54
Bear Bryant said:
I was always a fan of Chavis and thought he put some great defenses on the field. I find it hard to believe he was such a fool considering he was promptly picked up by LSU, which right now would be really hard to argue is a demotion from UT. I see where you guys are coming from but I dont feel that way.
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I would agree the move at this place and time can actually be considered an upward move rather than lateral. However with regards to Chavis vs Monte there is no comparison. Monte will send people from every angle imaginable and will drop lineman back into open areas, basically most of these opposing offensive coordinators will be very confused - no knowing where the heat is coming from.
 
#55
#55
The third and long problems go farther back than just last year. This has been my biggest issue with Chavis over the years. That and the cornerbacks lining up 10+ yards off the receiver, although these two probably go hand in hand. Will Monte's scheme be any better? I don't know. But I know this, if we give up more yards, but stop people on third down, we will win more games.
 
#56
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jakez4ut said:
they have the same problem as last year in regard to the DT's, though the two they had starting last year are probably better than the two they'll have this year. the back 7 and ends should be pretty good. i don't know if it will be top 10 def like last year, but they shouldn't be awful that's for sure.
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Will have to agree with that. Wait till next year or maybe two, once we have picked up some more recruits that fit what we are trying to do defensively........will be there.
 
#57
#57
Our overall defense ranking last year is a little misleading when you factor in the lack of offense in the teams we played last year. If anyone is going to use last years ranking vs this years, they are looking thru rose colored glasses. I expect our defense to be more sound on 3rd down conversions and create more turnovers.

The most important stat I am wanting to see is time of possession. If our offense can sustain drives and not wear our defense down with 3 downs and out, we will be much more successful.
 
#58
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GmanTN said:
Our overall defense ranking last year is a little misleading when you factor in the lack of offense in the teams we played last year. If anyone is going to use last years ranking vs this years, they are looking thru rose colored glasses. I expect our defense to be more sound on 3rd down conversions and create more turnovers.

The most important stat I am wanting to see is time of possession. If our offense can sustain drives and not wear our defense down with 3 downs and out, we will be much more successful.
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Very logical post.

We can't expect much out of our D, when they are on the field 2/3 of the game. No matter who is coaching them.
 
#59
#59
BeecherVol said:
Very logical post.

We can't expect much out of our D, when they are on the field 2/3 of the game. No matter who is coaching them.
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I think we can all agree last year's offense was the worst football played at Tennessee in the History of the School.
 
#60
#60
In the biggest of big plays last year (yes 3rd down), our D was typically loose coverage with 2 deep safeties. Look no further that the UCLA 2nd half and the final Auburn 1st down conversion to sum up the Chavis - Fulmer tandem.
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LWSVOL said:
it would be most unreasonable to have an expectation that this defense this year would be 3rd in nation in total defense like last year's team was. .....

True, but do not underestimate the power of Monte coupled with O,,,,, Just to go back to the Bucs a moment, Monte sent Tomlin, Marnelli, Davis, and Morris to head coaching positons in the NFL. On top of that, you can bascially say - at least I can bascially say that he kept Gruden in employment for extra years because his defenses were so strong. The Bucs offenses were mostly in the second tier of NFL performances. If Chavis can put out a product that many on here feel including me was above average, then I would expect nothing less than elite from Monte.
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LWSVOL said:
it would be most unreasonable to have an expectation that this defense this year would be 3rd in nation in total defense like last year's team was. If that is the metric for being better, than no I don't expect them to be better. They may not under any metric, we will see.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org
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seems to me those metrics are worthless. I didn't trust that D the way it was being employed in any situation. The stats were a function of some sorry offenses nearly across the board in the SEC.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
seems to me those metrics are worthless. I didn't trust that D the way it was being employed in any situation. The stats were a function of some sorry offenses nearly across the board in the SEC.
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then it can only be based on one's perception if statistics or a metric not used. Nothing wrong with perception except if one's perception is things are bad. Then you just need plenty of zantac... :)
 
#65
#65
I expect a more consistent pass rush and and a solid defensive backfield as a result. I am vascilating on my opinion of the run stopping. It is one thing to pin your ears back and rush the passer when you are a young DT. Learning to stay in your lane and play with leverage in real time is another thing entirely. It wouldn't shock me if it took our run defense a while to get up to speed. Overall I expect a much faster look sideline to sideline.
 
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LWSVOL said:
then it can only be based on one's perception if statistics or a metric not used. Nothing wrong with perception except if one's perception is things are bad. Then you just need plenty of zantac... :)
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I'm not saying we were bad. We were actually decent, but nothing close to the 3rd best defense in the land.
 
#67
#67
Last year's defense was a bit overrated. We were lucky enough to face a litany of bad offenses last season.
 
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