Will the DNC fracture before the next election?

[Grand Vol]

I wanted to start my own LG-esque thread about whether the DNC is facing a crisis going into the next election.

Are they headed for a split in which the radical left wing portion takes control and the middle and centrist voters sit it out?

Or will a unifying figure emerge that stands a chance of upsetting Trump?

It appears (on the outside at least) the Democratic Party is close to a "civil war" to gain control of the party as a whole. "Get on the bus or get run over" to paraphrase the young upstarts in the DNC.

 

[jvol1]

The Dems should run Alfred E. Neuman, 'cause they don't really have a chance fracture or no.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I hope so. It needs a solid shove back towards the center.

 

[Grand Vol]

I hope so. It needs a solid shove back towards the center.

Then they become the new Green Party and the GOP wins every time. I don't see the socialist wing getting "shoved" anywhere.

 

[37L1]

I wanted to start my own LG-esque thread about whether the DNC is facing a crisis going into the next election.

Are they headed for a split in which the radical left wing portion takes control and the middle and centrist voters sit it out?

Or will a unifying figure emerge that stands a chance of upsetting Trump?

It appears (on the outside at least) the Democratic Party is close to a "civil war" to gain control of the party as a whole. "Get on the bus or get run over" to paraphrase the young upstarts in the DNC.

Wonder where that bus is heading?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

If they leave the moderates out of their platform, its not going to end well.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Could we see the emergence of a third party, a socialist party?

 

[volfanjustin]

Wonderful thread. That party is severely fractured. You have the old guard who are used to the old way of doing things and probably just in it for themselves. Then you have this new group who appeal to the growing socialist/radical base. Who wins in the short term? Who wins in the long term? It's clear Pelosi is scared of this new batch of anti-American radicals in the House. We are very close to Schumer/Pelosi/Biden/Hillary etc... being the moderates

I have said this before here, Bernie can;t get the nomination. His party has changed very quickly, when he ran 3 years ago he was the only admitted socialist, now everyone running are socialists.

 

[volfanjustin]

Could we see the emergence of a third party, a socialist party?

Already there, it's called the modern Democrat party

 

[UT_VOLS13]

DNC Chair Tom Perez stated that the whole House Democratic freshman class “is spectacular.”


Perez: 'The Entire Freshman Class Is Spectacular' | Breitbart

 

[Grand Vol]

Wonderful thread. That party is severely fractured. You have the old guard who are used to the old way of doing things and probably just in it for themselves. Then you have this new group who appeal to the growing socialist/radical base. Who wins in the short term? Who wins in the long term? It's clear Pelosi is scared of this new batch of anti-American radicals in the House. We are very close to Schumer/Pelosi/Biden/Hillary etc... being the moderates

I have said this before here, Bernie can;t get the nomination. His party has changed very quickly, when he ran 3 years ago he was the only admitted socialist, now everyone running are socialists.

I will say this, the same rhetoric was used in 2016 when it was thought the GOP would fracture over the Never-Trump movement. Turns out it was a lot smaller than people were thinking. I do think the socialist movement in the DNC is a lot larger than the Never-Trumpers were.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Already there, it's called the modern Democrat party

Yea, but some of the democrats think this ballooning, blatant socialism/communism faction is even scary.

 

[volfanjustin]

I will say this, the same rhetoric was used in 2016 when it was thought the GOP would fracture over the Never-Trump movement. Turns out it was a lot smaller than people were thinking. I do think the socialist movement in the DNC is a lot larger than the Never-Trumpers were.

You are right, and they are vocal and violent

 

[volfanjustin]

Yea, but some of the democrats think this ballooning, blatant socialism/communism faction is even scary.

Probably true but their influence will continue to disappear

 

[CardsNVols]

Could we see the emergence of a third party, a socialist party?

If enough money/influence gets fed up with the increasingly polarized political dichotomy I think it is possible. Not before 2020, obviously, but probably not too far down the road either.

A lot of people underestimate how many moderates with money and influence vote Democrat. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Party "centers" over the next few elections and the Democratic Socialists break away and form a party of their own.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

As long as these loony-idiot people keep eating their own & destroy each other I'm happy w/it.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Then they become the new Green Party and the GOP wins every time. I don't see the socialist wing getting "shoved" anywhere.

There is a pretty large contingent of the Republican party that isn't in the anti-abortion, anti-gay, racially ignorant crowd. I'd like to see a 3rd party emerge in the middle. Drop the far left and the far right to fend for themselves.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

There is a pretty large contingent of the Republican party that isn't in the anti-abortion, anti-gay, racially ignorant crowd. I'd like to see a 3rd party emerge in the middle. Drop the far left and the far right to fend for themselves.

X2

 

[NorthDallas40]

DNC will continue to alienate the moderates. Moderates will continue to feel disenfranchised and leave. The party will head farther left. It would take a complete overhaul of the current leadership to prevent that and no such change appears likely.

 

[davethevol]

There is a pretty large contingent of the Republican party that isn't in the anti-abortion, anti-gay, racially ignorant crowd. I'd like to see a 3rd party emerge in the middle. Drop the far left and the far right to fend for themselves.

Neither party will allow that to happen. Both sides want to retain their power and continue to grow the government/make it more powerful. It’s out of control.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Fracture no. Blown up by Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tilaib wearing a suicide vest, probably.

 

[1972 Grad]

There is a pretty large contingent of the Republican party that isn't in the anti-abortion, anti-gay, racially ignorant crowd. I'd like to see a 3rd party emerge in the middle. Drop the far left and the far right to fend for themselves.

Probably only 85-90%.

 

[InVOLuntary]

DNC will continue to alienate the moderates. Moderates will continue to feel disenfranchised and leave. The party will head farther left. It would take a complete overhaul of the current leadership to prevent that and no such change appears likely.

What's funny about it all is the Republicans today are left of where the democrats were not too many years ago and are currently considered right wingers.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

DNC Chair Tom Perez stated that the whole House Democratic freshman class “is spectacular.”


Perez: 'The Entire Freshman Class Is Spectacular' | Breitbart

Quote from the comment section: Typical of Democrats to have a foul-mouth low-rent ignorant thug like Perez as their leader. Where do they find these punks". And also "Spectacular socialists".

 

[CardsNVols]

There is a pretty large contingent of the Republican party that isn't in the anti-abortion, anti-gay, racially ignorant crowd. I'd like to see a 3rd party emerge in the middle. Drop the far left and the far right to fend for themselves.

I personally wish the SJWs and evangelicals would either meet up in Kansas and beat each other to death or just break away and form parties of their own. Maybe then the actual grown ups within the DP and GOP could actually get back to work.