Will NIL let coaches build the team how they want ?

[Forever151]

Do u all think NILs will help coaches build teams to scheme ? Like a Tennessee might be willing to pay a Elite WR more then a team like Bama because of scheme fit ?

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Only the coaches can sign lads to the program.

NIL signs them to contracts. Not to the program. NIL collectives can't do that. No matter how much they might want, they can't sign lads onto the team.

So yes, coaches can build teams to fit their scheme.

 

[Southeastern VFL]

It really brings up a very good question about will coaches become more about systems and scheme rather than anything else. The reason I say that is because I think sooner or later with everything that is coming into play a head coach will not have to time to build. If you look at what Heupel did this year by coming in and plugging a system and going with that may become the new way of life in college football. When you look at our situation with the last 3 coaches they all stood on day one and talked about how they had this 3 to 4 year plan and it was built on the hope of what could be but never came to be. Now you look at CJH he light years ahead of where the last 3 were with possibly inheriting a lot worse than they did. It's going to be something to in about 2 to 3 years of how a new coach handles the job.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Do u all think NILs will help coaches build teams to scheme ? Like a Tennessee might be willing to pay a Elite WR more then a team like Bama because of scheme fit ?

Nope. The team can have no direct say on NIL deals. What you are talking about is illegal.

 

[sjt18]

Nope. The team can have no direct say on NIL deals. What you are talking about is illegal.

Illegal or contrary to NCAA rules? I believe it is the latter.

 

[sjt18]

Do u all think NILs will help coaches build teams to scheme ? Like a Tennessee might be willing to pay a Elite WR more then a team like Bama because of scheme fit ?

Like others have written the letter of the rules say no. But considering the past NCAA failures to even scratch the surface on cheating... it is very likely that NIL will give coaches the ability to do what you suggest.

It will go like this. Coach tells Rivals that he's pursuing WR A... Rivals writes a story on their pay site which Spyre just so happens to read every day. Next thing you know, WR A has an opportunity to sign a contract with Spyre so long as he can be on call to cut a commercial or do an autograph signing at East TN businesses.

 

[Forever151]

Nope. The team can have no direct say on NIL deals. What you are talking about is illegal.

Ryan Day just told boosters how much money he needs to keep his team together and he quoted the exact price each position cost

 

[Vol Farmer]

Ryan Day just told boosters how much money he needs to keep his team together and he quoted the exact price each position cost

Careful there grasshopper

 

[OneVolNation]

Interesting question. Way to get out there in front of the topic. Thumb's up.

Remember when Tae Tay had that cookie deal? Everytime an interception, etc.

What if it was a company contract that paid a running back $x for every yard over 100 yards?
And then you start seeing him carry the backfield workload like Derrick Henry for the Titans.

I could see something like that in the future. Who knows? It's still early.

Good idea for a discussion topic.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Ryan Day just told boosters how much money he needs to keep his team together and he quoted the exact price each position cost

It wasn’t boosters. It was Columbus business owners. If it were boosters that would have been a violation.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Interesting question. Way to get out there in front of the topic. Thumb's up.

Remember when Tae Tay had that cookie deal? Everytime an interception, etc.

What if it was a company contract that paid a running back $x for every yard over 100 yards?
And then you start seeing him carry the backfield workload like Derrick Henry for the Titans.

I could see something like that in the future. Who knows? It's still early.

Good idea for a discussion topic.

That doesn’t seem logical in CF imo. If that does happen then diva behavior will be at an all time high.

 

[Southeastern VFL]

It wasn’t boosters. It was Columbus business owners. If it were boosters that would have been a violation.

Then in other words these local Columbus business are about to be booster middle men. If booster are smart there is a way of getting the money to where it needs to go jmo.

 

[Raebo]

I am sure there are members of the “collectives” that have close ties to the athletic department and knows what players have been offered or are being targeted. There is nothing then to prevent the “collective” from then contacting the player or the player’s agent. The way I see it, the “collective” (like SPYRE) is the middle man between the booster/player/team. This way the booster may not even know who the collective is talking with. I can donate $1000 to SPYRE without ever knowing who they are talking with. Basically it sounds like a shell game.

 

[ru4real-really?]

it's like grocery shopping. The coaches make their shopping list then send someone out to buy them!

 

[VFL-82-JP]

This conversation is all about communication. Specifically, how are the coaching staff communicating their recruiting intentions to Spyre, without themselves becoming involved in NIL?

Do the coaches sit down with Spyre once a month or so to run down, position group by position group, the lads nationwide they're in conversations with, including how hard they're pursuing each?

Until recently, that would be illegal in Tennessee. Not just against NCAA rules. Illegal. A violation of state law.*

But a couple of months ago, Tennessee amended that law. The new state law allows NIL collectives, like Spyre, to "talk directly with university officials, current and prospective student athletes."** It is now fine for the coaching staff to have meetings like the ones described above.

And what about NCAA restrictions? Well, just about the only prohibition left in the NCAA arsenal is this: no university, including the university's boosters (and that, by the NCAA's definition, includes Spyre), can use money to recruit players to their school.

Since the NIL deals Spyre is cutting do not require players to sign on with any particular university, that's not an issue for us.

And that should completely answer the OP's question. It is the coaches who remain 100% in charge of picking which recruits to go after, which to add to the roster. Spyre is cutting NIL deals informed by the coaching staff's direction, but operating independently of them. This leaves the coaching staff free from any involvement in NIL contracts.





* The first NIL law passed by the state of Tennessee, in May 2021, included the limitation that employees of the university, including coaching staff, "may not be involved in the development, operation, or promotion of a current or prospective intercollegiate athlete’s name, image, or likeness, including actions that compensate or cause compensation to be provided to athletes." [emphasis added]
<< source: Tennessee NIL Law for NCAA - Spry >>

** Updated law source: Tennessee lawmakers change NIL law; make universities more competitive.