Will Fulmer hire Kiffin?

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Russdaddy2027 said:
Kiffin as HC, Tee as OC(next in line) Chavis as DC, dynasty building!
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I wish you guys would stop saying Tee to OC. That is ridiculous. Why in the world would he want to come her for a lateral move when he is in the OC position for the #1 football program ever. He turned UT down a few years back when they tried to give him a lateral move of running backs coach. Look his next gig is a head coach and if the Vols cannot give him the keys to the house, then keep hiring these coaches that can only achieve .500 and let this guy do this thing in Cali.
 
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The more i think about it, i don’t see how Kiffin wouldn’t be a serious candidate. Fulmer has to realize that between Mullen (45) and Kirby (42), we are likely to see those guys in the East for atleast 10 years. If there is truly some pride swallowing or as Phil said “it’s amazing what can be accomplished when people don’t care about the credit”, i can’t see a scenario where Kiffin doesn’t get an interview.
 
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Smokey 77 said:
It has been reported by CBS Sports that Fisher has resigned and speculation is that he is going to aTm.
The question is, if Fulmer is our acting AD, would he pursue Kiffin? Can he forgive and forget? FSU will contact Kiffin and if not them, then Arky or Auburn if Malzon leaves. We need to get a coach now that will get this thing turned around. Kiffin can do that if we can just get over the past. What you say Vcol Nation?
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Could not have said it better myself
 
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Smokey 77 said:
It has been reported by CBS Sports that Fisher has resigned and speculation is that he is going to aTm.
The question is, if Fulmer is our acting AD, would he pursue Kiffin? Can he forgive and forget? FSU will contact Kiffin and if not them, then Arky or Auburn if Malzon leaves. We need to get a coach now that will get this thing turned around. Kiffin can do that if we can just get over the past. What you say Vol Nation?
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Fulmer would take several trucks of kerosene and matches to Neyland stadium before he'd let Kiffin coach this team again. JMO.
 
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No Kiffin. You can forgive, but be careful about forgetting lessons. Remember, TN was going to name the sewage plant after him. Do you want to forget 9-11? Would you want your daughters to forget her husband went to bed with another woman, watch him ruin that relationship miserably, and then ask him for another go. No Kiffin. Too many other options. Our situation is better than that. Calm down Volnation.
 
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timbowyn said:
No Kiffin. You can forgive, but be careful about forgetting lessons. Remember, TN was going to name the sewage plant after him. Do you want to forget 9-11? Would you want your daughters to forget her husband went to bed with another woman, watch him ruin that relationship miserably, and then ask him for another go. No Kiffin. Too many other options. Our situation is better than that. Calm down Volnation.
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That analogy has to be the most idiotic piece of garbage that has been repeated for years.

Kiffin left because we allowed him a very easy path to do so. He left so easily because of the contract we gave him.

At the end of the day, if he is good enough for Saban, he’s good enough for me. Mullen and Smart are in their mid 40’s and will be at each school for atleast a decade. Do we seriously want to waltz out some fish in their 50’s that we would have to replace in6-7 years.

East is a sleeping giant with Mullen, Smart, and now Muschamp. Tennessee can’t afford to miss this hire or we will be perennial 4th place.
 
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No Phil and most of the people make choices are too prideful to ever make the correct decision of hiring Kiffin. Expect some good ole boy vanilla 8 win season coach to be named.

Then hope that Lane does NOT land in the SEC because he will eat our lunch every year and even more so because he will have something to prove against us. Hope he lands at FSU where he will knock it out of the park
 
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No way Fulmer will even entertain the thought of Kiffen coming back to "The Hill"! A bridge burned big time for ole little Lane
 
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OrebankVol said:
No way Fulmer will even entertain the thought of Kiffen coming back to "The Hill"! A bridge burned big time for ole little Lane
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He may not have a choice. The East is getting tons better in terms of coaching with Muschamp maturing, Mullen at UF, and Smart doing his thing.

It makes toooo much sense to hire someone other than Tee or Kiffin. The East is likely to have 3 coaches at their schools for atleast 10 years. Tennessee can’t be a school that goes thru two coaches in the same time.
 
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I hope someone hires that turd. Perhaps then there won't be five new threads about him everyday. Kiffin burned that bridge.
 
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Old article, but still applies to the Kiffin argument.

Lane Kiffin'''s Last Chance: '''This Is a Defining Job, One Way or the Other''' | Bleacher Report

"Lane is a very smart coach. He knows the game," Alabama head coach Nick Saban says and then hesitates, and you just know there's a "but" floating in the thought.
Because there's always a qualifier following the idea, the concept, of Lane Kiffin, head coach. Has been for the last decade, and even Kiffin admits, "more than likely" will be for a long time.
"But," Saban continues, choosing his words carefully, "what Lane will figure out, what every coach eventually figures out, is it's about people."
It is here where we introduce the very crux of the Failure of Kiffin: He doesn't work well with others. At least, others in the coaching profession vital to his existence.
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There is no argument Kiffin can coach. He's one of the best developers of quarterback talent and play-callers in college football. That's backed by tangible statistics, records and championships.
Then there are the intangibles, the nagging problems that have prevented a brilliant offensive mind from becoming a successful head coach.
The criticisms from coaches and staff members who have worked with him are all the same. Selfish. Short-tempered. Egotistical.
"By the end of our time together, I wanted to physically beat his ass," says one former coach who worked with Kiffin. "And I wasn't the only one."
But those are the same people who use words like "genius" and "guru" and "gifted" when speaking of his coaching ability.
Like any job in any walk of life, success is a complete package. It's easy to celebrate the good, yet impossible to avoid the bad. The undeniable truth for Kiffin: His bad always overshadows the good.
Weeks after he was hired at FAU, he completed putting together a staff that included offensive coordinator Kendal Briles (a former member of the staff at Baylor which a Pepper Hamilton report said made choices that "posed a risk to campus safety and the integrity of the University") and former Ole Miss defensive line coach Chris Kiffin (a key figure in the NCAA's investigation of Ole Miss). Kiffin says the FAU administration has fully vetted both, but the hirings clearly call into question early decision-making in his last chance gig.
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"I've never seen a guy who knows his craft like he does be such an overbearing assh--e," says one coach who worked with Kiffin. "Lane does what Lane wants to do, no matter the consequences."
Says another coach on one of Kiffin's staffs: "He's completely unaware of his impact on others. When you're a coach, everything you say and do is not only scrutinized by the media and your boosters, but modeled by your players. Eventually, that will eat away at what you're trying to build until there is nothing left."
There's a reason he went from being Al Davis' hand-picked gut feeling to lead the Raiders, to Davis calling him a "flat-out liar." A reason he had to be escorted out of the Tennessee football facility the back way and leave campus on the back roads when he hastily announced he was leaving after one season to accept his "dream job" at USC. A reason USC athletic director Pat Haden pulled him off the team bus at LAX at 4 a.m. after a brutal loss, fired him on the spot—and still won't talk about him to this day.
A reason Kiffin didn't speak with any other assistant coach at Alabama—outside of game preparation—for a majority of the 2016 season.
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It is a tragic story guys I understand. 40 years from now Lane will regret leaving Tennessee which was his golden opportunity. Sometimes the clock strikes 12 and there is no turning back. History has other fallen heroes who screwed the pooch......

In January 1801, Benedict Arnold's health began to decline.[91] He had suffered from gout since 1775,[112] and the condition attacked his unwounded leg to the point where he was unable to go to sea. The other leg ached constantly, and he walked only with a cane. His physicians diagnosed him as having dropsy, and a visit to the countryside only temporarily improved his condition. He died after four days of delirium on June 14, 1801, at the age of 60.[91] Legend has it that, when he was on his deathbed, he said, "Let me die in this old uniform in which I fought my battles. May God forgive me for ever having put on another,"[113] but this story may be apocryphal.[3] Arnold was buried at St. Mary's Church, Battersea in London, England.[114] As a result of a clerical error in the parish records, his remains were removed to an unmarked mass grave during church renovations a century later.[115] His funeral procession boasted "seven mourning coaches and four state carriages";[91] the funeral was without military honors.[116]

Benedict Arnold left a small estate, reduced in size by his debts, which Peggy undertook to clear.[4][91] Among his bequests were considerable gifts to one John Sage, perhaps an illegitimate son or grandson.[117]
 
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JMSqb11 said:
For the record, that article is wrong in the fact that Kiffin was “sneaked” out of Knoxville. Dude stayed behind for a press conference and has even said their car was driven by where they were burning couches.
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So out of that entire article burning Kiffin's hide, that's all you have an issue with? LOL

Glad to see you understand now why Kiffin is being virtually ignored through over a dozen P5 coaching searches.
 
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I think Kiffin took a dump on UT in Phil's eyes...can't see it happening.
 
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