Will Crompton/Stephens Play Better? (merged)

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Well, Crompton has certainly been screwed. This is either his third or fourth offense he has had to learn. I can't blame him nor should anybody. But, this year he has a chance to learn a more simple system designed for him. He has four years experience and has faced a lot of adversity. However, he is behind a thin offensive line with apparently only experience inside on the line. His peripheral isn't the best as we've seen. So, that is the only reason I question his improvement this year. Otherwise, I think he'd put up some decent numbers and we could actually end up seeing what the kid can do. But unfortunately, he has yet to have all the elements support him and he has been a poor quarterback due to circumstance. I hope that our line can give him time enough to prove what he can do.

Stephens showed some light at times. He was new and learning under Clawson. Not good. I think he has potential as well, but he's going to be facing the same issues.

However, if we put basically dead bodies on the end of our OL and have some quick snaps and run the heck out of the ball and cause them to cheat in a bit, then maybe that will help them stay fresh as well as keep the moderate defenses we play off balance enough to give our qbs the chance to throw and gain some confidence.

In the end, I think it's all on our OL. We need to build our lines and then build around them. Their performance solely relies on them as opposed to many other positions. So, it should be easier to recruit these guys I would imagine. Once we have stability in the trenches, the better qbs will want to play behind them. I think we should be looking to JuCo for OLs. I guess there just isn't anybody. But, I have mad respect for Oku & Brown. I'd wanna block for them... if I weighed another 120 lbs!

I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks. My opinion is derived from all that I've read, but once again... it's just my opinion.
 
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imavolsfanforlife said:
Well, Crompton has certainly been screwed. This is either his third or fourth offense he has had to learn. I can't blame him nor should anybody. But, this year he has a chance to learn a more simple system designed for him. He has four years experience and has faced a lot of adversity. However, he is behind a thin offensive line with apparently only experience inside on the line. His peripheral isn't the best as we've seen. So, that is the only reason I question his improvement this year. Otherwise, I think he'd put up some decent numbers and we could actually end up seeing what the kid can do. But unfortunately, he has yet to have all the elements support him and he has been a poor quarterback due to circumstance. I hope that our line can give him time enough to prove what he can do.

Stephens showed some light at times. He was new and learning under Clawson. Not good. I think he has potential as well, but he's going to be facing the same issues.

However, if we put basically dead bodies on the end of our OL and have some quick snaps and run the heck out of the ball and cause them to cheat in a bit, then maybe that will help them stay fresh as well as keep the moderate defenses we play off balance enough to give our qbs the chance to throw and gain some confidence.

In the end, I think it's all on our OL. We need to build our lines and then build around them. Their performance solely relies on them as opposed to many other positions. So, it should be easier to recruit these guys I would imagine. Once we have stability in the trenches, the better qbs will want to play behind them. I think we should be looking to JuCo for OLs. I guess there just isn't anybody. But, I have mad respect for Oku & Brown. I'd wanna block for them... if I weighed another 120 lbs!

I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks. My opinion is derived from all that I've read, but once again... it's just my opinion.
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They do have 2 JuCo defensive line recruits, I think.

Stephens's biggest problem is he stares down the receiver he's going to throw to. I hope Kiffin and Co. have taught him not to do that.

And the way Crompton would hand off he ball, he'd have his arms extended the whole time after the snap, just asking for a fumble. In fact, that's how he fumbled on the goaline against UF. The FB ran into him while he had his arms extended.

I don't know what Fulmer's staff was teaching them. The team was severely lacking fundamentals on offense.
 
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Yeah, Crompton does stare down receivers. That is a common characteristic of undeveloped players... which often can be fixed. As far as the JuCo recruits go, I'm speaking about the offensive line where we are still lacking and that directly affects our QB play.
 
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Yes easily with a differnet coordinator,and staff,look wat happen to ainge wen cutcliff came back,and i do believe,this is just my opinion,may not be true,but this staff is way better than cutcliff
 
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VOLSnTITANS said:
Yes easily with a differnet coordinator,and staff,look wat happen to ainge wen cutcliff came back,and i do believe,this is just my opinion,may not be true,but this staff is way better than cutcliff
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I don't know about that. Cutcliffe is one of the best QB coaches. We had very good offenses while he was here in 2006 and 2007...look what happened in 2005 and 2008 when we were without him.
 
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Yes, they will play better. Simplified offense, and I would have to believe more of a focus on fundamentals. The current staff is not on cruise control, and I expect that to be highly evidence this coming season.

To the OP - I agree that improvement in the offensive line is key. That alone will make the QBs look better.
 
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VOLSnTITANS said:
Yes easily with a differnet coordinator,and staff,look wat happen to ainge wen cutcliff came back,and i do believe,this is just my opinion,may not be true,but this staff is way better than cutcliff
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You might be selling Cut a little short, but this offensive staff will prove much better than Clawson and Sanders... and not be bound by fulmer shackles.
 
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What I cannot understand is how we are able to sign two of the top running backs in the country and have such a difficult time getting other offensive recruits to commit. If I was an offensive line recruit and I knew I was going to have a stable of quality running backs behind me every play to make me look good it certainly would not be a tough decision. I believe the problem we are having this year with recruiting offensive players is we have been very ineffective with our running game for several years now. If Kiffin can show some productivity with the running game this year and pull several additional top running backs to backup the talent we already have then I think before NSD we will get all the offensive players we need including an elite Quarterback. How much improvement Kiffin can demonstrate with the offense is season as opposed to last year play is going to be critical to how much success he has with recruiting top notch offensive players this year. If he gets the ground game moving in the right direction this season we all will be very happy on NSD.
 
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So bios,dont even see the real picture,wow,take the orange sungalasses off,im big vols fan,but tell truth bout things.lol.
 
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Miavol said:
What I cannot understand is how we are able to sign two of the top running backs in the country and have such a difficult time getting other offensive recruits to commit. If I was an offensive line recruit and I knew I was going to have a stable of quality running backs behind me every play to make me look good it certainly would not be a tough decision. I believe the problem we are having this year with recruiting offensive players is we have been very ineffective with our running game for several years now. If Kiffin can show some productivity with the running game this year and pull several additional top running backs to backup the talent we already have then I think before NSD we will get all the offensive players we need including an elite Quarterback. How much improvement Kiffin can demonstrate with the offense is season as opposed to last year play is going to be critical to how much success he has with recruiting top notch offensive players this year. If he gets the ground game moving in the right direction this season we all will be very happy on NSD.
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Our running backs are good, but I will be surprised if the running backs themselves will affect OL recruiting that much as they are going to be stuffed quite a bit due to our lack of OL. Our depth at RB will definitely help, but what do we do, keep running them into brick walls? That's why I was mentioning the quick snap. That may keep our inexperienced ends fresher as the DE's will cheat and that also will open up some receivers a bit by doing so. Now apparently our three middle guys are experienced and may be able to help create some holes along with the RBs regardless of who is on them. Still, this is just wishful thinking. But, I guess you have to work with what you have. Regardless of why we are having trouble recruiting OLs, we don't have them.

Here's food for thought though. Fulmer I think had quite a few top OL people coming in and he was typically pretty good at recruiting them. I heard that's why a lot of people wanted to play for Fulmer. He got the talented OL guys and built around them. When we let him go, a lot of our OL left and the others had committed already... and the other teams already had their mitts on 2010 class as well. So, maybe it's just lack of time to dig into the pot. Now, RBs are gonna play for Gran. DL for Orgeron and LBs etc for Kiffin Sr. Not hard to pluck those and not hard to build around Eric Berry. I would have thought Chaney could have pulled some OL people in, but his claim to fame is more QB work. Still, he knows the line and he can contribute there as well as QB.

I'm rambling, because it seems to be a vicious cycle. If they can coach, we will see and I believe they can. The line will hold and Crompton will throw better. If our line is better than most predict, those 2010 OL kids will flock. Plus 2010 commits can be swayed. But as for this year, our depth can be a huge issue. If I were coaching against UT I'd rush every down and wear our OL out. So, quick snaps are going to have to be there to keep them honest. We will see.
 
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our offense will only be as good as our o-line, last year they were pitiful, if kiffin improves that we will do well
 
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SimpleOrange said:
Cut won a NC had a QB that should have won a Heisman. Not bad.
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manning,lol,couldnt beat florida,or nebraska in orange bowl,u have to win big games to win hiesman,and lane got 3 in row at usa with leinart and guys.know ur football,dang,and that was 98,and wasnt for arkansaw not just running clock out,and fumble and travis henry running the ball woulda got beat by arkansaw,and the defense won that title in 98.
 
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I don't see how they could possible not improve over last years performance. This offense has been simplified and I think we will see it on the field. Thing is, it wasn't only the QBs playing horrible last year, it was the offensive line, recievers, backs. It's obvious none of the players ever grasped Clawson's offense. I don't think there is any question, the QBs will be better this year.
 
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A friend called me from work,said a couple of Ga. fans told him that Crompton has left Tenn. Anyone heard this. I know it's probably a rumor!
 
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