Wilcox Speaks regarding Job Offer (merged)

#76
#76
Big Orange Screw said:
Wilcox's canned comments confirms to me that if he is offered the job, he is gone. The thing I don't understand is why is Texas so desirous of Wilcox? I mean really, what has he really done? He improved Boise State's D for a few years and showed promise in defending the spread. He came to UT and helped improve an absolutely depleted, low talent group. That's all well and good, but how does that qualify him to be the DC at one of the top three programs in the nation?

I am a Tennessee fan through and through, but Texas is on another plain than Tennessee right now. In all honesty, Texas could do better than Wilcox.
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Man, that is said to perfection!! we can be on the same plain as texas and we should be in the future with RIGHT decisions. I agree completely with you BOScrew...I've been wondering the same thing... If texas has such big pockets why in the world would they go after wilcox??? You have Steele, Bumpas, Diaz and Shannon out there who have PROVEN themselves. Cmon', if they want wilcox then by all means GOOOO!!! LET'S THEN GO AFTER THE BIG 4 IMHO!!!
 
#77
#77
Texas is probably looking at multiple guys and are waiting for the bowls to be over before they decide.
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#80
#80
said the ever-polite Wilcox. "Here's the deal: I have a great job at Tennessee. I have not been offered any other jobs. I'm not in discussions about any other jobs. I believe 100 percent in what we're doing here at Tennessee. I back coach (Derek) Dooley 100 percent in where this program is going."

Dont know how you guys are reading that he is gone??? From reading this statement I would think all of this has been internet rumors. I think the guy stays at the real UT
 
#81
#81
OaklandTnVol said:
No one is getting screwed yet. Could it happen, yes. Could he stay...yes. You are making a lot of assumptions that aren't based on fact. If he leaves after the MCB then feel free to hate him, until then the guy is still a coach at your school.
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This is the whole story to me !!!
Next topic:- UT vs UNC BOWL GAME !!!!!
Go Vols !!! Beat them damn blues.
 
#82
#82
HoustonVOLfan said:
HERE IS AN ARTICLE FROM DOWN HERE IN TEXAS

Tennessee defensive coordinator's name surfaces; Nothing imminent so far in Texas search
Posted at 6:31 PM on Sun., Dec. 19, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Chuck Carlton / Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips


Another day, another name emerges for the Texas defensive coordinator job.

First was can't-miss frontrunner Randy Shannon. Then Teryl Austin became the guy, no doubt about it, from on-line reports. DeWayne Walker surfaced as a possibility, a front-runner and then an apparent non-candidate - all in the span of a couple of hours in the Twitterverse.

The new hot name Sunday night is Tennessee defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox, in reports that seem to have originated around the Volunteers program. First FootballRumorMill.com suggested Wilcox was in "serious discussions" with Texas. Then other sites joined the party, with Rivals affiliated VolQuest.com indicating Wilcox was a "viable candidate of interest." Next step: mad message board panic.

Here's what we know from the Texas standpoint: Mack Brown is still keeping his own counsel and nothing appears imminent. Everything indicates that Brown will not be raiding staffs of teams before bowl games and Tennessee is playing in the Music City Bowl on Dec. 30. Plus, the Texas coordinator jobs will attract a lot of highly qualified candidates, many of whom may be with teams in bowls. For agents, it's a dream situation to create leverage for clients. Anybody not named Mack Brown who claims to know exactly what's happening is probably wrong. That said, Wilcox is an intriguing name with an interesting resume.

Wilcox, 34, is finishing his first season at Tennessee as the successor to Monte Kiffin. The Vols weren't as good defensively (70th nationally) as in 2009, mainly because the talent wasn't as good with players like Eric Berry departing.

Wilcox spent four seasons as defensive coordinator at Boise State, compiling a nice track record with the Broncos. His father, Dave, was a Hall of Fame linebacker with the San Francisco 49ers.

He made $600,000 in the first season of a three-year contract and has a $300,000 buyout, which should not be stumbling block if Texas and Brown is truly interested. As we've learned in the past week, the "if" is a crucial factor.
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I believe there is more of this happening than anything.


DaddyChad said:
[Coach Speak]"OK, guys. I know what you guys are doing here all of a sudden," said the ever-polite Wilcox. "Here's the deal: I have a great job at Tennessee. I have not been offered any other jobs. I'm not in discussions about any other jobs. I believe 100 percent in what we're doing here at Tennessee. I back coach (Derek) Dooley 100 percent in where this program is going.

"My sole focus, 100 percent, along with all the other coaches is getting ready for North Carolina. That's what I've spent my time doing, and will continue to spend my time doing. So, that's about it. We can talk about North Carolina."[/Coach Speak]

[Important Part]When asked point-blank if he is a candidate at Texas, Wilcox "I can't really answer all that. I can't get into hypotheticals. It's just, it doesn't make any sense. We'll talk about North Carolina. I understand you have to do your job. Just can't get into all that."[/Important Part]
Translation: I don't want my mattresses burnt and my unborn children threatened before I can pack my bags to head to Austin. I'll let my agent handle the negotiations with Texas.
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If the first part is true, he doesn't know if he is a candidate, only CMB knows that.
 
#83
#83
The fact is not a frickin soul on VN knows what Wilcox will and will not do. If he goes, I will add him to my burning sack of poo list. If he stays, he gets to live on in my UT coaches shrine.

Worse than a bunch of old ladies at church
 
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#84
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mtt2d said:
Why can't we discuss it with you? Its obvious where the focus is Wilcox, on you. If you're not going anywhere, then say you're not going anywhere.
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Why would Wilcox or any other coach ever do this and eliminate all possibility of leveraging the interest into a raise? That wouldn't make much sense.
 
#85
#85
CountVolcula said:
The fact is not a frickin sole on VN knows what Wilcox will and will not do. If he goes, I will add him to my burning sack of poo list. If he stays, he gets to live on in my UT coaches shrine.

Worse than a bunch of old ladies at church
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#86
#86
I'm glad some of us refrain from burning Wilcox at stake before he shows up at a press conference in Austin. Til then he's our coach
 
#87
#87
If he leaves who cares. Life goes on. Dooley will find a great replacement maybe even a better dc.
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#88
#88
I don't think he has been offered. He said he is not in discussions. He did not say he wasn't in discussions earlier. The discussions have been put on hold until 12/31/10. He has probably been told he is the man, but they can work things out over New Years so he can be in place when recruiting starts back up on 1/4. He should just concentrate on MCB between now and then.
 
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ibleedorange40 said:
It's a loss for us. He will be gone. But like I said in another post...Let's go after a "big fish" and quit messin around. Steele, Shannon or Bumpas. Shannon IMO would be the best pick for US. Awesome Defensive Coordinator. Just check out his numbers. They speak for themselves. Open the checkbook Hamilton and let's GIT R DONE!!! Tired of BS-ing around and Let's move FORWARD!!!!!!NOT BACKWARD!!!!!:banghead2:
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I think Randy Shannon would be an excellent pick up as Defensive Coordinator, but what happens when a university comes calling at the end of next season for him to take another head coaching job? There we go again in search of a 4th defensive coordinator in as many years. So much for staff continuity.
 
#90
#90
If this is just all internet chatter all parties involved are doing a piss poor job of defusing it. Thus me thinks there must be some merit to the offer and its acceptence. Out of all the interviews who has the best poker face?
 
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#91
#91
His comments didn't say much of anything because there isn't a whole lot of anything to be said at this point. He doesn't know if he is going to Texas so to say anything one way or the other would be foolish. I would guess that he has a gut feeling on what he will do if the job is offered but that is still a HUGE IF right now.
 
#93
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volover said:
said the ever-polite Wilcox. "Here's the deal: I have a great job at Tennessee. I have not been offered any other jobs. I'm not in discussions about any other jobs. I believe 100 percent in what we're doing here at Tennessee. I back coach (Derek) Dooley 100 percent in where this program is going."

Dont know how you guys are reading that he is gone??? From reading this statement I would think all of this has been internet rumors. I think the guy stays at the real UT
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Coach speak is a key part of the game...so far all the quotes posted show that Wilcox is focused on the bowl game, not a candidate for a new position anywhere.

Wilcox leaves a lot unanswered...he has not said he is all Vol and is staying with the program here. He cannot afford to play that card. Hammy is measuring Wilcox's situation, and does not want to put more money on the table if he doesn't need to.

Once TX offers, then Hammy will respond in kind, and Wilcox should be all Vol...UNLESS, there is an internal situation in the staff that does not suit Wilcox (some mention of conflict with Smith).

To me it looks too vague to call at this stage, seems like the chess game has been underway for awhile..coin toss if he stays or goes.
 
#94
#94
He is gone IMO! Could have said a lot more to quite things and did not. If you need examples I can provide, this does hurt but we will replace with someone better just hate to see the players learning new schemes every year it sets them back from there full potential... Don't let the door hit ya were the good Lord split ya.....
 
#96
#96
it's the nature of the industry. coaches lie more than used car salesman during the off season.
 
#97
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NEVolFan said:
Coach speak is a key part of the game...so far all the quotes posted show that Wilcox is focused on the bowl game, not a candidate for a new position anywhere.

Wilcox leaves a lot unanswered...he has not said he is all Vol and is staying with the program here. He cannot afford to play that card. Hammy is measuring Wilcox's situation, and does not want to put more money on the table if he doesn't need to.

Once TX offers, then Hammy will respond in kind, and Wilcox should be all Vol...UNLESS, there is an internal situation in the staff that does not suit Wilcox (some mention of conflict with Smith).

To me it looks too vague to call at this stage, seems like the chess game has been underway for awhile..coin toss if he stays or goes.
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This.

I think he is honest in his statements about TN job, CDD and working towards the Bowl. I think he also is leaving him self room, IF texas offers after the bowl to take it, IF TN doesn't match or top the offer. Can't blame him for that.

BEAT UNC!
 
#98
#98
lilesrt said:
I think Randy Shannon would be an excellent pick up as Defensive Coordinator, but what happens when a university comes calling at the end of next season for him to take another head coaching job? There we go again in search of a 4th defensive coordinator in as many years. So much for staff continuity.
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I honestly think Randy is going to lay low a couple years as a coordinator. JMO though.
 
#99
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zjcvols said:
I honestly think Randy is going to lay low a couple years as a coordinator. JMO though.
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I believe that Dooley will try very hard to get someone that he feels certain will be around a few years or more. has to kill this constant change at those coordinator levels anyway.
 
#100
#100
LWSVOL said:
I believe that Dooley will try very hard to get someone that he feels certain will be around a few years or more. has to kill this constant change at those coordinator levels anyway.
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he doesn't have to look too far.
 
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