Why won't good coaches touch UT? Why?

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Because everybody knows there is internal division with boosters and the administration is totally incompetent.
 
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volberry said:
It's been 10 years!! It's obvious we've been blacklisted by the good coaches. Because every other program has gotten good to great coaches. What's going on behind the scenes? Seriously.
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A couple of things before you get completely derailed. There are a lot of coaching searches this year; that means a lot of other places didn't get it right either. More than one are serial offenders - just like UT, and there will be a whole new list of failures next year ... and the next.

The other thing is how do you know who was or who wasn't offered a job anywhere? It all comes from media speculation - all of it - salary, an actual offer, etc. I haven't seen any school put out an official fact sheet detailing offers, search policy, or search strategy. Remember "Kelly turned UT down" - except there was no offer made to turn down? Of course, if some hack "reports" it on the internet, it must be true.

There is a problem with our latest ADs and the fact that they aren't ex-coaches and have no clue what it takes to make a good coach. All we can hope for is that saner minds get back on track with ex-coaches as ADs and avoid more Hamilton/Hart/Currie stupidity - all defective peas from a business school pod. Fix that problem and you are on the way back to decent coaching.
 
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Bruce Feldman, whether you like the guy or not, is a very informed person.

He said that there is a lot of politics played within UT. That's why coaches won't come here.
 
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volberry said:
It's been 10 years!! It's obvious we've been blacklisted by the good coaches. Because every other program has gotten good to great coaches. What's going on behind the scenes? Seriously.
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Good or Great coaches such as:

McIlwain?
Muschamp?
Mike Riley?
Jim Harbaugh?
Charlie Strong?
Tom Hermann?
Bielema?
Freeze?
Orgeron?
Mora?

I don't see any great ones there, and none I'd pay big money for.
 
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volberry said:
It's been 10 years!! It's obvious we've been blacklisted by the good coaches. Because every other program has gotten good to great coaches. What's going on behind the scenes? Seriously.
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Who says they won't? Target the right ones and pay up.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
Good or Great coaches such as:

McIlwain?
Muschamp?
Mike Riley?
Jim Harbaugh?
Charlie Strong?
Tom Hermann?
Bielema?
Freeze?
Orgeron?
Mora?

I don't see any great ones there, and none I'd pay big money for.
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Everyone one of those except two have won multiple conference championships and big bowl games. Way better than what we had even when Fulmer was here.
 
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It could be worse. We could be MS State. They lost a coach to another school in their conference. The hated Florida.... What sad is, everyone expected him to leave after he had success. The media was treating MS State like they were a MAC school with an up & coming coach..
 
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Like it or not, the UT football head coaching position is rather conspicuous as a dead end IF there are other choices.
 
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Haslems and Currie thats why. Everyone across the country knows about the Haslems.....Currie does not have a good rep from being a K State
 
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Tennessee has had very weak ADs trying to fill the position. Think about it, would you put your career and families future in the hands of spineless guys like Mike Hamilton, Dave Hart and now John Currie?

Schools that hire good coaches typically have good-great ADs in place.
 
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BanditVol said:
Sigh. Well...Fulmer was a good coach, but just going to the SECE in 2007 wasn't good enough for some fans. He did a great job coaching that year, but some still wanted him gone. The next year gave all the excuse needed.

Kiffin was a poor choice to replace Fulmer, in hindsight. Mostly because he bailed but also because of the childish antics and looming NCAA issues. Also vastly overstated is how well he did at Tennessee. 7-6. Hell, Butch Jones was two games better than that the last two years. :)

Dooley was the ultimate mistake...a panic hire. Worst coach since the pre-Neyland era, and who gives a crap about anything prior to 1926?

Then we had to settle for Butch Jones as a third choice coach. He wasn't terrible, but he wasn't good either, and two slightly above average seasons aren't going to cut it at Tennessee.

You should already know all this but in summary.

1. Fired a coach we shouldn't have and replaced him with a decent coach who happens to be a complete weasel.
2. Panic-hired a terrible coach.
3. Accepted a slightly above average AAFC coach because it seemed to be the best we could do.

1 and 2 are on Hamilton. 3 is Hart doing his best to salvage the situation. Did improve things, just not enough.
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Great job? It's pathetically stupid to call his coaching job in 2007 "great". Florida beat us 59-20. 6-6 Alabama in Saban's first year beat us 41-17.

Decent job would be the limit on 2007

You must have fallen asleep after the 2001 SECCG. Had he not won the NC in 1998, Fulmer would have been fired immediately after the shatty 2002 season after a #6 preseason rating
 
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volberry said:
It's been 10 years!! It's obvious we've been blacklisted by the good coaches. Because every other program has gotten good to great coaches. What's going on behind the scenes? Seriously.
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Because to win the SEC, it probably means having to beat Saban twice.
 
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Let me put it this way, even if Tennessee really opens the checkbook but os in competition with other similar tier schools, the internal politics can be the deciding factor.

Lets say that UT and a hypothetical school called Midlands both want Coach Smith. Midlands is in a lot lowet pressure conference with a lot less distractions and has a history of hiring a coach and letting him run his program as he sees fit. UT offets Smith 5 million. Midlands can only offer 4.5. Once you are talking that level of money, if I'm Smith, I probably just leave 500k on tje table just to not have to mess with the crazoness that is tje internal politics of UT. Sure I make less per year, but my career at Midlands is probably twice as long and i probably dont die of an ulcer or heart attack at 62 so i live long enough to enjoy my income.
 
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Doesn't Tennessee end up with a lot of non qualifiers and they don't take any academic exceptions? An aren't they like the only SEC school that does that? Or am i just totally wrong here. I would say if that's the case could be a issue.
 
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Cartervol said:
Doesn't Tennessee end up with a lot of non qualifiers and they don't take any academic exceptions? An aren't they like the only SEC school that does that? Or am i just totally wrong here. I would say if that's the case could be a issue.
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Whether true or not, UT doesn't have the most stringent entrance requirements by any means. If you can't pass those, you don't belong at UT.
 
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AM64 said:
Whether true or not, UT doesn't have the most stringent entrance requirements by any means. If you can't pass those, you don't belong at UT.
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Heard it mentioned before.. Something Jimmy Cheek put in place back in the early 2000's. Not sure if that stuff is still going on or not.
 
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