Why won‘t Heupel take sole responsibility for Saturday

#76
#76
LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Jeremy Pruitt doesn’t make him mismanage the clock, make horrible playcalls, field one of the sloppiest teams in the country every single year, etc.

Nothing going on now at UT is the fault of Jeremy Pruitt. And when it was Jeremy Pruitt’s fault, you were blaming Butch Jones.
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I never ever boarded the Pruitt train.
 
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#78
Skooter said:
People are not seeing the defender between Joey and where he wants to go. It’s why he hitched. He’s ready right here. 3 is on the ground and 87 looking at the db. DL is in his line which is why he hitched, left his feet a little and tried to lob it over his head.
It’s not the easy pass people are making it out to be because there is no lane to pass and don’t know what he can and can’t see.
Shoulda launched it. He knows. We all know.
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Bama played this play perfectly. It was a gamble on both sides and Bama won.

- Bama gambled that the play they thought was going to happen before the time out would still be the play.
- Tennessee gambled that Bama would think they would change the play.
- Both were playing the odds and thoughts of what the other would do.

The one player who got by the blocker blew up the play - forced a quick decision and it wasn't the right one. Joey had to throw the ball or be sacked or decide not to throw the ball and attempt to run around the other side.

I agree without clear line of sight he should have just launched it to set up for 3 points. But had he done that the receiver in question had been at the spot without the coverage - everyone would be complaining about the lost touchdown.

Giving the way and quickness in which it all developed he didn't really have time to evaluate the options - he would have been sacked, half over, no points. In hindsight better than 7 points the other way - but things happen.
 
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wmcovol said:
You’re the one with brain issues. Heupel staff’s recruited under severe NCAA penalty pressure for ‘22 & ‘23 classes. Those classes are the senior & jr class this year. The 2021 class (Pruitts last) was a complete bust minus Jaylen Wright. That would be a redshirt senior class if they had one. There’s 5 players left from ‘22 recruiting class & while they are good/great players, there’s only 5. The ‘23 class was alittle better boosted by Nico’s 5 star. None of the ncaa pressure & opponents negative recruiting ended until the NCAA lost the Greenville case in 2024.

The 2022 was a mix of Heupel taking what was here and working a miracle with it. Nobody thought Hooker was a great QB after his first spring. Nobody saw Tillman or Hyatt being the WRs they were. And the offense took some DCs by surprise.

The last two seasons were boosted by a number of 5 & 6 yr guys who got an extra year but without those, the roster would have been a disaster based on the 21-23 recruiting classes. Heupel has definitely helped Tennessee weather hard times. Some were upset OSU looked on another level than Tennessee last Dec. Well, DUH, OSU only recruited top 3 for 5 straight years & had about 25-30 5 star recruits on their roster. Tennessee had 5. 4 were soph or freshmen.

Heupel ain’t going anywhere for several more years. The administration knows the mess he took over & how long he was in a gun fight with a stick even thou many of our idiot fans don’t.
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Once again, you can't sit here and say that the program is still playing with one arm tied behind their back AND say that Heupel is a good coach.

To sit here and say that those issues from Pruitt are still causing harm today is moronic because Heupel has shown he can succeed at a high level when they were at their biggest impact.

Either Heupel had a fluke season and coached above his means and Pruitt years are still an issue or he is a good coach that elevated the program at a nuclear pace in 26 games and is facing pressure to keep the program from plateauing.
 
#81
#81
UTFranklinVol said:
If I had to guess, Heupel is probably extremely frustrated at his WRs and TEs not catching the damn ball. this may be a not-so-subtle reminder to his team that hey, you are a part of this failure too.
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Well we have depth issues due to injuries so my guess is he is a bit resigned to the fact there will be drops in bulk because we don't have anyone to put in to see if they can actually hold onto the ball.
 
#83
#83
volfan102455 said:
It is a team sport. And it takes both coaches and players working in tangent.

- The best called play doesn't work if the players do not execute.
- Players can sometimes make a bad play work, sometimes they can't.
- A coach can't make a player catch a ball when they should or make a QB under pressure do what they should.
- Players are not perfect.
- Coaches are not perfect.
- Us fans viewing from the stands or from our TV don't know that play was called and why.

Finally, naming names, calling a player, a coach etc. out publicly does NOT build team trust. Conversations should happen privately. Those who made mistakes are more than likely fully aware of what mistakes they made - no need to roast them in public.

My way of saying "we" and "us" are the right terms to represent and talk about a "team".

Those of you who want coaches to use "I" and "Me" just want someone to blame, someone to complain about, someone to fire.
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No, we understand leadership. It doesn’t matter that the players made mistakes. A leader realizes that the buck has to stop somewhere and he steps up and takes it.

This is not just a football principle. It applies to business, military, politics, or any other situation where a „team“ exists.

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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, you can't sit here and say that the program is still playing with one arm tied behind their back AND say that Heupel is a good coach.

To sit here and say that those issues from Pruitt are still causing harm today is moronic because Heupel has shown he can succeed at a high level when they were at their biggest impact.

Either Heupel had a fluke season and coached above his means and Pruitt years are still an issue or he is a good coach that elevated the program at a nuclear pace in 26 games and is facing pressure to keep the program from plateauing.
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You obviously have no clue about the impact of negative recruiting & 3 consecutive poor recruiting classes have on a program. Feel free to speak your case. I’m done arguing with a fence post.
 
#85
#85
lukeneyland said:
You don’t think Bama would have put two backers in the A gap for that? The call honestly wasn’t terrible and a good throw probably scores. We mismanaged the clock but people are really losing their minds over this and it’s just not logical
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They lined up faking a run play with an obvious pass play coming. He was only fooling himself.
 
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Oldvoldad said:
This is why I can't stand to hear fans moan about assistant coaches. All the decisions are the responsibility of the HC.

Saban had tons of idiots that worked under him over the years, but he didn't allow them to do stupid stuff.
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Or I would say he didn’t allow them to do stupid things MORE than once.
 
#88
#88
molsen81 said:
Incorrect. Heupel will be fired in two weeks................
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You can't be serious....and If you are that's the dumbest **** I've read on here in awhile, Heupel has us relevant again, good recruiting class coming in and we've been ranked how many weeks straight??? Look at his record here compared to the crap we had here before, let's go with what you said...recruiting will implode and we'll be starting all over again just trying to make a bowl game...Heupel has his flaws and it's frustrating to watch at times, his clock management aggravates me so bad 🤣🤣 but he's the best coach we've had in a very long time and I'm glad he's here and hope he's here for a long time🍊🍊🍊🍊
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
They lined up faking a run play with an obvious pass play coming. He was only fooling himself.
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It was the worst play call of Heupel’s time at Tennessee. It was that bad of a call. You’re on the short hash with all the action going to the right and there’s only 2 places to go with the ball. The flat and the flag. It had to be quick and no one bought the play action bc we had to throw the ball. That ball should’ve been in the ground or in the stands, but it should never have been called to begin with.

Given Aguilar’s injury at the time, the only way to run it that scenario would be a trick play where you do a direct snap to the back out of a 4 wide set where it looks like Aguilar is making a check to the lineman or something, and that would’ve been a huge risk , but at least a little creative. Still absolutely floored how bad of a play call that was if you couldn’t tell
 
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#92
Fatman Photos said:
This is what I love about this Forum, People Bi*ch and Moan about everything.
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Yeah, it’s not like we have continued to be humiliated in most of our games against our three biggest rivals for about 25 years now or anything. And often losing in the most idiotic ways imaginable.
Some of us think that is something deserving at least a little displeasure.
 
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GrizzlyVol said:
You can't be serious....and If you are that's the dumbest **** I've read on here in awhile, Heupel has us relevant again, good recruiting class coming in and we've been ranked how many weeks straight??? Look at his record here compared to the crap we had here before, let's go with what you said...recruiting will implode and we'll be starting all over again just trying to make a bowl game...Heupel has his flaws and it's frustrating to watch at times, his clock management aggravates me so bad 🤣🤣 but he's the best coach we've had in a very long time and I'm glad he's here and hope he's here for a long time🍊🍊🍊🍊
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Heupel has been a very good coach for us and I think it would be monumentally stupid to fire him.
But until he can get us to at least a 50/50 record against the Georgias and Alabamas of the conference AND start performing on big road games (yes I know about LSU and Oklahoma), he has not lived up to his potential.
That is what we need to move from a B tier SEC team into the A tier, which is our birthright
 
#94
#94
When it is someone else's fault and pretty obviously not the fault of the leader... he says "we". Heupel didn't make a bad decision to throw that pick. In fact, it is likely he told JA to watch for DBs undercutting the route. You always coach your QB to make sure of at least 3 in that situation. Don't take bad risks.

So exactly what was he supposed to say after the fact?
 
#95
#95
That pick 6 has entered the pantheon of the most traumatic plays of the 21st century. It joins Pig Howard’s fumble through the end zone against Georgia and JG‘s rogue sneak and fumble against Alabama as absolutely devastating milestones for the program.
It is why BVS will never truly be healed for long time Vol fans.
 
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sjt18 said:
When it is someone else's fault and pretty obviously not the fault of the leader... he says "we". Heupel didn't make a bad decision to throw that pick. In fact, it is likely he told JA to watch for DBs undercutting the route. You always coach your QB to make sure of at least 3 in that situation. Don't take bad risks.

So exactly what was he supposed to say after the fact?
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„It is my job to put our players in the best position to win. I obviously didn’t get that done Saturday night.“

Nothing beyond that. No need to commit Hari-Kari or anything; just own responsibility.
 
#97
#97
GBOx2 said:
Did you forget to use blue font? Because there are $37,500,000 reasons why he will not be fired in the next two weeks.
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Which is totally ridiculous. Coaches can't be fired because their buyout is too high? Every job I've had was performance based. Never rode the clock nor got paid for bad work.
 
#98
#98
OrangeTsar said:
That pick 6 has entered the pantheon of the most traumatic plays of the 21st century. It joins Pig Howard’s fumble through the end zone against Georgia and JG‘s rogue sneak and fumble against Alabama as absolutely devastating milestones for the program.
It is why BVS will never truly be healed for long time Vol fans.
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and the Randall Morris uninduced fumble going in for a TD vs OMISS, and ONE MORE Vs Bama in 2005 when a Vol TE (not looking it up)
was fixing to score (the winning TD) and fumbled.
 
#100
#100
VolInNW said:
Heupel can't even groom himself or choose a shirt that didn't come off the floor. You expect him to demonstrate leadership?

Only half kidding. Heupel is happy to be making 9M a year and he is gonna milk that as long as he can. And he likely has 2-3 years before his seat gets hot.

He isn't gonna take personal responsibility for anything. Heck, he doesn't even hold his coaches accountable.

Late stage Fulmerism is where we are heading. Stand by for endless players who "fail to develop"

Yeah, I'm bitter today. And I have a right to be.

::: Cue "Coach-is-Always-Right" crowd to tell me to find another team :::
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Why do you have the right to be bitter and say stupid stuff?
 
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