Why wasn't Cody flagged for removing his helmet?

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BeecherVol said:
It would have been a cheezy call.

We hit 25% of our field goal attempts, after out gaining Bama, and out playing them thru the second half.

Hard to fuss too much about that not being called.
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Agreed. If Tennessee would have taken care of their business this would really be moot. However the sheer number of Bama fans who have made their way to a Tennessee board to try to defend their team only proves my point.
 
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#232
Would like to see if anything is mentioned in the media about this. I agree that with the non fumble call on Doe as he was crossing the goal line the SEC needs to do something.
 
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KentheOrange said:
Since when can a half or game end on a defensive penalty. One more untimed play my friend.
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Bama recovered so they were technically on offense

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."
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english_vol said:
Bama recovered so they were technically on offense

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."




This is wrong. If the officials had called the penalty, when it happened (BEFORE Alabama recovered and while there was still time on the clock), then the penalty would have called the recovery back and Tennessee would have gotten to re kick. Nice try though.
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bluetickhound16 said:
Who's the :cray:.... That ball wasn't catchable and if you had a shred of honesty in you you wouldn't even bring that BS up
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lol...ofcourse it wasn't he was hit while the ball was in the air. And the ONLY reason that was brought up was due to the "Alabama gets all the calls" by these girls on this site:moon2:
 
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Rockytoptn83 said:
english_vol said:
Bama recovered so they were technically on offense

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."





This is wrong. If the officials had called the penalty, when it happened (BEFORE Alabama recovered and while there was still time on the clock), then the penalty would have called the recovery back and Tennessee would have gotten to re kick. Nice try though.
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Yeah, you don't understand the rules.
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sobe said:
If you do you won't hear every UK fan crying like a 5-year-old girl about it.
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After losing to UT for well over two decades straight, you must have become desensitized to the pain.

UT fans have never accepted losing, and we have a coaching staff getting us to hope again.

Not saying the whining over the no call on the last play is justified (in fact I proved it was right a few pages back), but I think that's at the root of some of these threads.
 
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I will go with the Bammers on the no penalty call at the end of the game. Should not have been called.

IF, IF, they can admit they got handled in the second half of the game, by a team with inferior depth, and talent. Compared to theirs.

I will call it both ways.
 
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Birmingham said:
I'm not arguing that his helmet wasn't off before the ball was recovered and downed by a bama player. What I'm explaining is that the penalty for taking your helmet off REGARDLESS OF WHEN IT HAPPENS is a dead ball foul. Since we recovered it's our ball minus 15. That is just the rules. It is what it is. But it IS that.
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Tell that to Dwayne Rudd for the Browns a few years back. The irony is he is an idiot bammer too IIRC
 
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RollBamaRollBama said:
lol...ofcourse it wasn't he was hit while the ball was in the air. And the ONLY reason that was brought up was due to the "Alabama gets all the calls" by these girls on this site:moon2:
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Fact is, is that on that play Jones pulled up, like Danielson said. Therefore, the ball was ruled uncatchable and it was a good no call. I'll also say that the no call at the end on that fat player of yours was a good one also. Heard that Rocky Goode, the replay official upstairs, said that it would not have made a difference because it was a dead ball foul.
 
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#244
I'm re-posting this because it is about 6 pages back at this point...

Direct from the NCAA rulebook....

Unsportsmanlike Acts
ARTICLE 1. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct or any act
that interferes with orderly game administration on the part of players,
substitutes, coaches, authorized attendants or any other persons subject to
the rules, before the game, during the game or between periods.
a. Specifically prohibited acts and conduct include:

(f) Removal of a player’s helmet before he is in the team area
(Exceptions: Team, media or injury timeouts; equipment
adjustment; through play; between periods; and during a
measurement for a first down).

If committed while the ball is alive, these fouls are treated as dead-ball
fouls.

PENALTY—Dead-ball foul or live-ball foul treated as dead-ball foul.
15 yards [S7 and S27] from the succeeding spot.

Since Bama recovered, it would be a 15 yard penalty on their possession. As much as I would like to have seen a re-kick, it shouldn't have happened. Had UT recovered, it would have been an un-timed re-kick after the 15 yard penalty (assuming it was called).

We just have to accept that we lost a close, hard-fought game.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I will go with the Bammers on the no penalty call at the end of the game. Should not have been called.

IF, IF, they can admit they got handled in the second half of the game, by a team with inferior depth, and talent. Compared to theirs.

I will call it both ways.
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I already admitted in 10 different threads. Alabama was out played out coached and alabama is just lucky to have a W. And i actually came over to say "great game" and i was shocked that UT fans cry about everything the alabama players and coaches have nothing to do about...The headset problem, The helmet off deal, the 8 to 1 in pentalies. Come on say what you won't but that was a great hard fought game and you guys are taking away from it with all the tears!!
 
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#247
Come on guys, there was no penalty. All unsportsmanlike penalties are treated as dead ball -

for example, a breakaway runner taunts a defender on the 5 yard line going into the end zone and gets a penalty, they don't lose the touchdown, its enforced as a dead ball foul even though it happened in a live play. They don't take off the TD and enforce it. Same thing.

No penalty. Forget it. We are lucky they didn't call our guy offside on the onside kick or for tackling 57 before crompton's pass to stocker....

Rockytoptn83 said:
english_vol said:
Bama recovered so they were technically on offense

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."





This is wrong. If the officials had called the penalty, when it happened (BEFORE Alabama recovered and while there was still time on the clock), then the penalty would have called the recovery back and Tennessee would have gotten to re kick. Nice try though.
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lovethesec said:
Come on guys, there was no penalty. All unsportsmanlike penalties are treated as dead ball -

for example, a breakaway runner taunts a defender on the 5 yard line going into the end zone and gets a penalty, they don't lose the touchdown, its enforced as a dead ball foul even though it happened in a live play. They don't take off the TD and enforce it. Same thing.

No penalty. Forget it. We are lucky they didn't call our guy offside on the onside kick or for tackling 57 before crompton's pass to stocker....

Rockytoptn83 said:
english_vol said:
Bama recovered so they were technically on offense
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If everybody saw the game for what it was and not through orange colored shades they would be saying "wow what a great game" instead of crying about it
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#249
It just is what it is: a somewhat extreme example of life on the road in the SEC.
 
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RollBamaRollBama said:
If everybody saw the game for what it was and not through orange colored shades they would be saying "wow what a great game" instead of crying about it
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I agree with this.

Good game. I'm glad we're taking Bama to the wire and saying "We should have won". Feels so much better than the last couple of years.

The line on this game was 16.

I look forward to a close fought win next year...

Edit: Not everyone is crying, and some fans on both sides are showing good class (while others on both sides are not)...
 
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