Why the talk about firing DOOLEY???

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OrangeFromBirth said:
well for you ppl looking to fire dooley,sucks to be you. 1 thing i saw that hurt us was,a true freshmen linebacker that missed an assignment and allowed a long touchdown. take that away and its a 3 point game. next make a fieldgoal for christ's sake and looky there tie ball game. dont lose hunter and wow the possibilities
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It was a game of missed opportunities missed int after a bad PI call, missed fg early in the game, another possible fg before the half, no punt blocked no 3 points for the Gators, and assume no int at the start of the 2nd half a td.
I could be wrong but was there a pass late in the 2nd quarter that could have been returned for six by the VOls?
 
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#77
I am a Dooley supporter. He needs 4 or 5 years to establish his program. Everyone is so tired of hearing wait until next year, work like heck, we are getting better, look what we have coming back next year etc. My personal opinion is we need to look closely at our offensive coord. He is strictly old school and in my opinion very out dated. Off tackle left and off tackle right does not get it in the sec !! Must be much more sophisticated than that and I just don't care for Chaney. Who cares what he did at Purdue ??? What did we have rushing Saturday -9 yards. Something needs fixin !!!
 
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firestorm said:
He needs to do it sooner than later. .
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I don't disagree. I have said since he arrived that UT couldn't afford to give him more than 3 or at the most 4 years to "rebuild". After that, the Fijivols of the world come out in force creating the impression of a "hot seat" by complaining incessantly. That impression hurts recruiting. UT's recruiting situation virtually requires that the coach's seat not be considered hot since the Vols so heavily depend on out of state talent.

If the media and fanbase are talking of UT moving in the right direction then recruiting gets a tad easier. If UT can get a few big wins with that then it gets a good bit easier.

Long and short... he needs to win before negativism sets in.
 
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utgibbs said:
No, but the problem is we fired the best coach TN had had since the General.

And The Plan was to hire Lane Kiffin's Daddy. Which resulted in a Lost Year for the Vols.

When you fire your second greatest coach in the middle of the season, you'd better have a real plan, a near certain #1, and someone, who, like Fulmer makes the team immediately better.This is the problem. I can understand the SECCG every three years wasn't good enough. But if you are going to change, you better damn well make sure you hire a proven winner, and you better be damn sure your choice is likely to come when called.

Or, like Hambone, you can hire the guy who makes Al Davis look sane.

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You're one lost soul. First of all, if Fulmer had walked into the same situation as Dooley, he wouldn't do any better. The FACT is that Fulmer got the job when the team was LOADED with talent, especially along the lines of scrimmage and at skill positions.

You're easily one of the most uninformed people in this forum and have no clue about the real world outside the back door. :birgits_giggle:
 
#81
#81
All you people who think we need to fire CDD can go and pull for Florida. You guys are not true fans , you just want to ride the band wagon go find another team and leave all your stupid ideas about TENNESSEE FOOTBALL to yourself! You so called fans are a complete embarrassment!
 
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OrangeFromBirth said:
well for you ppl looking to fire dooley,sucks to be you. 1 thing i saw that hurt us was,a true freshmen linebacker that missed an assignment and allowed a long touchdown. take that away and its a 3 point game. next make a fieldgoal for christ's sake and looky there tie ball game. dont lose hunter and wow the possibilities
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I liked your post. :thumbsup:
 
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Rocky Top Fan said:
All you people who think we need to fire CDD can go and pull for Florida. You guys are not true fans , you just want to ride the band wagon go find another team and leave all your stupid ideas about TENNESSEE FOOTBALL to yourself! You so called fans are a complete embarrassment!
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Impressive. A member for 3 years and this is your second post.

I admire your restraint. :)
 
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sjt18 said:
Didn't say anything that would lead to this response.

EVERY decision he makes or doesn't make is relevant.

I'm not saying they should have chosen differently... but the decision to run a large portion of the game plan through Hunter contributed to the UF loss. That was a RELEVANT decision. It was a calculated risk to spend time on plays with Hunter rather than contingencies in case Hunter got hurt.

"Good hire"/"bad hire" depend on one thing and one thing alone... wins. I think DD is doing things that should lead to winning. But you have to eventually judge guys on their bottom line. Right now, he has not proven he can beat the teams that UT must beat to win championships. He has to do that.
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I misinterpreted your post. My apologies

firestorm said:
He needs to do it sooner than later. Positive news is LSU likely again will be undefeated when we play them in a rematch. A excellent early birthday present for me beat the Tigers making a statement. Not just beat them I want it to be recreating what the Titans did to the Ravens this Past Sunday except score more than 2 tds.
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Great analogy. I was completely shocked at the score at halftime yesterday. Go Titans!
 
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BelAirVol said:
You're one lost soul. First of all, if Fulmer had walked into the same situation as Dooley, he wouldn't do any better. The FACT is that Fulmer got the job when the team was LOADED with talent, especially along the lines of scrimmage and at skill positions.

You're easily one of the most uninformed people in this forum and have no clue about the real world outside the back door. :birgits_giggle:
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And who was the recruiting coordinator / OC when all this talent came in?

And who made it IMMEDIATELY better after that?

Oh yeah... that guy.

Around here we call that Game, Set, and Match.
 
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utgibbs said:
And who was the recruiting coordinator / OC when all this talent came in?

And who made it IMMEDIATELY better after that?

Oh yeah... that guy.

Around here we call that Game, Set, and Match.
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And who was at the helm and responsible for starting the gradual decline of the program by being more interested in keeping his friends as coaches rather than putting the best coaches in the right positions?

BTW, you act like Fulmer was the only one responsible for assembling the talent of 89,90 etc. It was Kippy Brown that brought in the haymakers of those classes in Chuck Webb and Carl Pickens. Not sure who recruited Dale Carter and the other JUCO's, but it wasn't Fulmer doing it by himself.

Dooley doesn't have the luxury of taking over an insanely talented team in a league that is average like Phil had the fortune of when he took wrested Majors job from him in the MIDDLE OF THE SEASON.
 
#87
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.....Tennessee will have to earn its way back into major college football and there is nothing easy about turning around a once great program. Tennessee has been underachieving for many years now and its sports results do not match its wonderful facilities. Fans are going to have to do a reality check.....!
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I think that the opportunity that was lost on Saturday is more depressing than having lost the game. Most of us realize how huge it would be to beat a top tier SEC team this season, even though it is a long shot. Beating UGA or SC doesn't have the same pizzaz as beating a Bama, LSU or UF. I'd love to beat the Dawgs and the Cocks, but if we're going to restore some positive national media attention to this team and make it a little easier for the coaches to get a foot in the doors of some of these all-american types that we need to be recruiting then we need to beat one of the big boys. UF was young and operating with a new head coach this year. That was the best chance for Dooley getting a signature win this season. Lightning rarely strikes twice but maybe we get lucky and Miles has multiple brain farts and we have a shot at LSU again. This program needs a break, badly.
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Well-stated. Miles having multiple brain farts is a very high probability event. The question is whether we can capitalize on those. Ironically, he's the guy who tried to give CDD his signature win last year.

I don't think we beat LSU or Bama this year.

Next year is shaping up a bit, but I suspect UF comes back stronger than this year (e.g. no signature win there either).

This could be the mediocre output scenario from CDD that gets us 6 years of less than elite performance. FWIW, I predicted that a while back, but most folks just got pissed about it.

Losing Hunter hurts. I wish we'd kept Teague on offense now as we clearly need him and he's the closest athlete we have to filling that huge void during a time when we simply need to win. :hi:
 
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Volsfan4243 said:
UT can't seem to catch a break. After Fulmer won a National Championship, this team has been in a slow decline. There are many reasons for that. Cutcliffe leaving for Ole Miss, Randy Sanders, and the Dave Clawson fiasco. Fulmer became lazy in recruiting and left the cupboards bare. Along came Kiffin making headlines and bringing a new excitement to Tennessee, however, he made many questionable remarks leading to negative press and a divided fan base. Many players went elsewhere so Kiffin could start his guys. SC came calling and Kiffin bolts. Many of his recruits left and simply didn't work out. Players like Bryce Brown, David Oku and others left. The NCAA investigation led to top tier coaches declining the UT job offer. Fortunately, Dooley accepted the challenge. Everyone knew this wasn't going to be easy. You can't replace a coach like Fulmer and have his success in one year. Dooley salvaged a recruiting class and had a great class last year. The SEC 25 player rule didn't help this staff. Dooley had a decent first year but the LSU and UNC losses hurt. Winning one or both of those games would have helped this team's morale and recruiting. This year, Hamilton resigns and UT is without an AD for months. The NCAA didn't find anything related to UT Football so things were looking up. Now Hunter goes down! I don't know of any other program in the NCAA that has endured so much in a short period of time. Let's be realistic, it will take time for Dooley to turn this around. Do you think bringing in another coach, installing a new system, and losing recruits that the staff has been working on for the past two years really work? This staff is finally able to recruit 2 and 3 years ahead instead of jumping in last minute on players. Dooley is the right man for the job but it will take time. It took Spurrier 6 years to make USC a contender. Last year was the first year they were really relevant in the SEC. It will take Dooley that long as well. I believe he is the right man for the job. This team simply needs something good to happen. A couple of big wins this year will go a long way. If not, I am excited about the next two years. These boys will grow into men and several will be playing on Sundays. The fan base needs to be patient. It could be worse, we could have Muschamp acting a fool on our sidelines instead of a class act like Dooley.
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Well I for one, would rather be a winning fool, than a classy loser. A classy loser is still a LOSER. Like Vince Lombardi said, "Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing !!! "
 
#92
#92
Istill don't think he pans out, but this discussion shouldn't even happen until the end of 2013.
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#93
#93
Orange Blazer said:
Last year is last year.

We dont have spread players.

Where is the hidden potential that Dooley and Chaney are missing that you have so easily discovered?
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I think he means run and shoot type spread and not spread option. We could definitely do four wide and generate offense against less talented front fours.
 
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#94
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fade route said:
The people calling for DD's firing are the same people who thought we would go 10-2 - they should be ignored on both topics
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most of the ones calling for his head are either trolls,15 years of age or just plain morons
 
#98
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utgibbs said:
And who was the recruiting coordinator / OC when all this talent came in?

And who made it IMMEDIATELY better after that?

Oh yeah... that guy.

Around here we call that Game, Set, and Match.
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In the real world, you're called DELUSIONAL

BTW, it wasn't immediately better. 1993 was a good year, but no better than 1989, 1990,1991 or 1992. They also got DRILLED by a lower ranked Penn State team in the Citrus Bowl. In 1994, they lost 4 games, including a home blowout loss to Florida, 31-0 and a loss to lowly Miss St. That's immdiately better???? LOL at you're cluelessness

See, rather than deal with your delusional fantasy land, I deal in facts. That's the way the real world works
 
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