Why the talk about firing DOOLEY???

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Yankee_Vol said:
A 17-20 record says otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Dooley hire. But come on people. How many other big time programs were lining up to offer him a job?
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not sure how much that really matters right now
 
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volfanjustin said:
He was also playing against WAC competition, it's not like he was at La Tech playing the whole SEC. The oline is terrible in run blocking, the D is terrible especially front 4 except maybe Jac Smith and special teams are still a non factor. I just don't see this team beating any good teams I hope like hell I am wrong.
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So the fact that he was also the AD, had a team eviscerated by injuries and was 1 year removed from their first bowl win in forever? He also did beat an SEC team (Mississippi State). He also scheduled hard OOC games to drum up money for the entire AD. He knew they'd be almost definite loses, but LaTech needed the money.



But, whatever. Forget context and rational thought, right?
 
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Since he hasn't completely failed, I'd say he deserves at least 3 years to be evaluated (since he started). I'm OK with keeping him if we have at least 7 wins (not counting bowl games) in either this season or next.

BTW, this coming from a guy who doesn't especially like Dooley.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
which there is no evidence that either is happening. We continue to come out for the game and look like the keystone cops, if you call that improvemnt or good coaching then that is your problem. Mark this down Vandy will beat us this year with a first year coach who gets how to get people excited and forgets the homespun bs Dooley sprouts. By the way he took this job for a hugh pay increase and a chance to coach in the SEC. The thought that he did us a favor is bs. Our schemes are so basic on both offense and defense a first year GA could gameplan around them. Where is the heat on defense? Where is the offensive push, where are the special teams play? And don't even get me started on recruiting the great Dooley plan we just saw what those 2 and 3 stars look like against 4 and 5 stars and it isn't pretty. Thank goodness for Tyler Bray and a weak out of conference schedule so Dooley the great could keep his job but it is 6-6 at best.
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This post is proof that no one under any circumstances should ever take you seriously again. Period.
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Anyone who would look at this loss as an example of the program moving in the wrong direction is an idiot. We have had lots of things to get excited about as a fan base over the last few months both on and off the field. It takes a little more time before those things start to reflect on the field. I thought we had a good chance to go to the swamp and pull the upset, but it would have been just that....an upset. We are still a year away from competing for the SECe and that is not b/c of Dooley. GBO.
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DC Vol said:
So the fact that he was also the AD, had a team eviscerated by injuries and was 1 year removed from their first bowl win in forever? He also did beat an SEC team (Mississippi State). He also scheduled hard OOC games to drum up money for the entire AD. He knew they'd be almost definite loses, but LaTech needed the money.



But, whatever. Forget context and rational thought, right?
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Can't argue the numbers, if he was so great (and I sure hope he turns out to be) why wasn't he the first call they made, they got turned down by several coaches before they made it down to him on the list. He did play a tough schedule out of conference but still does not explain the losses to in conference teams. I am sure you all defending him were the same ones that when me and others were not happy with Kiffin you all were defending him also. It is ok to have criticisms of the coach and not to be blinded by just because he is the coach here you have to be fine and agree with everything that happens. Losing is never ok and acceptable to me this is a program that should expect more.
 
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volsdeepinva said:
Anyone who would look at this loss as an example of the program moving in the wrong direction is an idiot. We have had lots of things to get excited about as a fan base over the last few months both on and off the field. It takes a little more time before those things start to reflect on the field. I thought we had a good chance to go to the swamp and pull the upset, but it would have been just that....an upset. We are still a year away from competing for the SECe and that is not b/c of Dooley. GBO.
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Exactly. The fact that Dooley is remaking the program with quality intelligent kids is reason enough to like him better that the previous two staffs.
 
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volfanjustin said:
He was also playing against WAC competition, it's not like he was at La Tech playing the whole SEC. The oline is terrible in run blocking, the D is terrible especially front 4 except maybe Jac Smith and special teams are still a non factor. I just don't see this team beating any good teams I hope like hell I am wrong.
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Malik Jackson is terrible?
 
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volfanjustin said:
Can't argue the numbers, if he was so great (and I sure hope he turns out to be) why wasn't he the first call they made, they got turned down by several coaches before they made it down to him on the list. He did play a tough schedule out of conference but still does not explain the losses to in conference teams. I am sure you all defending him were the same ones that when me and others were not happy with Kiffin you all were defending him also. It is ok to have criticisms of the coach and not to be blinded by just because he is the coach here you have to be fine and agree with everything that happens. Losing is never ok and acceptable to me this is a program that should expect more.
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your criticism is that he wasn't our first choice. You're not really being critical but just throwing out random facts to hide your irrational dislike of the coach
 
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volfanjustin said:
Can't argue the numbers, if he was so great (and I sure hope he turns out to be) why wasn't he the first call they made, they got turned down by several coaches before they made it down to him on the list. He did play a tough schedule out of conference but still does not explain the losses to in conference teams. I am sure you all defending him were the same ones that when me and others were not happy with Kiffin you all were defending him also. It is ok to have criticisms of the coach and not to be blinded by just because he is the coach here you have to be fine and agree with everything that happens. Losing is never ok and acceptable to me this is a program that should expect more.
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Disagreeing with his decisions is fine. Thinking he should be fired is moronic. It really is that simple.
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utvolpj said:
your criticism is that he wasn't our first choice. You're not really being critical but just throwing out random facts to hide your irrational dislike of the coach
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Wrong, I like him I think he is really smart, funny and a good guy and so far an ok coach. I hope like hell he gets the job done. I am not just going to blindly follow him and always say everything is ok especially after a loss. Even with lesser players sometimes you have to out coach someone. And it's not like Florida has way more talent anymore, that talent level is not that far apart anymore.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Wrong, I like him I think he is really smart, funny and a good guy and so far an ok coach. I hope like hell he gets the job done. I am not just going to blindly follow him and always say everything is ok especially after a loss. Even with lesser players sometimes you have to out coach someone. And it's not like Florida has way more talent anymore, that talent level is not that far apart anymore.
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Actually you did criticize that he wasn't our first choice. Just saying. :) Also its hard to say the talent is not that far apart when over half of Kiffin's class is no longer here. It is a smaller gap, but it is still there.
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I wouldn't listen to anyone that thinks we should fire Dooley. They are obviously uneducated idiots that aren't too bright on the subject of football. Period. The. End.
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I'm not impressed with Dooley/Chaney at this point.

Last year, I felt they should have named Bray starter at the beginning of the season. I think it was evident he had the better arm and the most potential. i think that was a mistake.

I don't like what they are doing on offense. He should have installed a spread offense at the beginning of the season with Bray in the shotgun and a single RB and 4 WR. Our offense depends on Bray and passing the ball, no running game to speak of.

Trying to have an offensive scheme with a FB and TE and play action pass isn't going to work with our OL and no running game. I just don't think they are getting the most out of the offense with this scheme. :twocents:
 
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Devil's advocate question: Urban Meyer suddenly decides he misses coaching and personally calls the UTAD and asks if they'd consider giving him the job. What's the call?
 
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oklavol said:
I'm not impressed with Dooley/Chaney at this point.

Last year, I felt they should have named Bray starter at the beginning of the season. I think it was evident he had the better arm and the most potential.

I don't like what they are doing on offense. He should have installed a spread offense at the beginning of the season with Bray in the shotgun and single RB.

I think trying to have an offensive scheme with a FB and TE and a lot of play action pass isn't going to work with our OL. Nice thought though.

I just don't think they are getting the most out of the offense. :twocents:
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Last year is last year.

We dont have spread players.

Where is the hidden potential that Dooley and Chaney are missing that you have so easily discovered?
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The IDIOTS calling for DD to be fired need to have a reality check! Fulmer depleted the cupboard and Kiffin did nothing but recruit thugs!!! DD is bringing back respect to a school that the biggest headlines were of those being arrested on weekends. This is still a young group of guys and they WILL get better! We loyal fans have waited this long, I think another year or two isn't too much to wait! Looking at the big picture, DD and staff have the Vol football team heading in the right direction. At least the headlines in the paper are about the football team instead of 3-4 arrests! Give the man a break! I dare to say that the ones calling for DD firing could just come in and have a championship the first year. He is building an awesome foundation and I BELIEVE that the Volnation has big things in store in the near future!!!! GO DD and GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!
 
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volfanjustin said:
Can't argue the numbers, if he was so great (and I sure hope he turns out to be) why wasn't he the first call they made, they got turned down by several coaches before they made it down to him on the list. He did play a tough schedule out of conference but still does not explain the losses to in conference teams. I am sure you all defending him were the same ones that when me and others were not happy with Kiffin you all were defending him also. It is ok to have criticisms of the coach and not to be blinded by just because he is the coach here you have to be fine and agree with everything that happens. Losing is never ok and acceptable to me this is a program that should expect more.
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Lets see some proof of this statement

Just because YOU weren't happy with Kiffin doesn't make YOU right about your assessment. Hey, I agree Kiffin was a punk and am glad he is gone, but at the time, most anyone IN THE KNOW thought Kiffin was a good hire mainly because he brought a staff in much more compentent than the previous one.

Whether YOU like it or not, Dooley was a good hire. He has this program back on track. Only a fool would believe you can get back to national relevance immediately. This isn't the 90s anymore.
 
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