Why the State Produces few SEC Players

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#51
So the guy never wrote part two because Kiffin left right around the time he was making this or because he ran out of silly race baiting ideas?
 
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#52
My thought on why there are so few out of Tennessee though is the prevalence of small schools. I grew up in a rather small county that had 5 high schools. I was about 6'2" and about 220 in HS. I got to play OL(center/forward in basketball) because I was bigger than most in the school. 6'2" 220 is not the body type for either of those positions in D-I. Now I wasn't talented enough to play college ball anyway but how many kids that should be playing LB or RB are being played out of position because the tiny school they go to has to play them there?
 
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Atathakr said:
I think we hit the nail on the head here. Unless you're a skinhead like our Caste Football fan here, you probably understand that Tennessee just doesn't have the institutional support statewide for football that other states do, and it has a hell of a lot more to do with that than race ever did. That's not UT's fault, to say the least. I grew up in Chattanooga, which was a battleground between UGA, UF, UA, Auburn, and UT fans. We're in a weird place geographically as a state, and Chattanooga is merely an example of the issues the state as a whole faces in football and basketball alike. Geographically we face a lot of issues other states don't given how close most other SEC schools are to us driving-wise (relatively speaking - we're a lot closer to Arkansas than UF is.), and kids in Memphis are close to Bama than we are. Camps and organization spread further throughout TN would go a lot further than the absolutely absurd arguments pertaining to the state's number of blacks would to address TN's recruit issues.
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I am no skinhead and it hurts me that any of you would say that, and some other things some of you have said. I am a Christian man and want to be fair just as much as anyone. You must not have noticed that I didn't say I was demanding an all white team. I just asked the question: Are white boys being treated fairly?

I simply asked, why are almost no white running backs recruited ( the problem is they they are not even rated moderately high by the rating services, even when their high school stats, seemingly, would warrant such ratings ) by scores of major colleges? It is a valid question about which we may disagree, but to call me names is not right. I don't agree with everything on that caste football website, but lacking any other source from which to glean this information, I found the data and, especially the players stories there to be fascinating. I have found other places where the recruiting subject is discussed, but this is the only website, that I have found, that had all that info compiled on one site

The fact that I am attacked like this is not right. I would think some of you, and especially some of the black members ( given the history of black players not being recruited ) would defend my right to pose this question without my character being attacked.

I meant no harm in posting this question.
We are all God's children and, therefore, I love each of you; as God wants us to love each other as we love Him. Or, I try my best, lol. Quite frankly, Peyton Hillis' story made me start to look for answers to how he was overlooked. Was it Houston Nutt's infamous "tunnel vision", or some other factor? Ask many Razorback fans and tunnel vision would be one way they'd describe his coaching style - not my opinion, neccesarily.
When I started looking, I was surprised at what I found.

Again, I meant no offense ( although, I knew it would offend many ) in discussing the subject here on the forum. God bless you all. :stinker2:
 
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White players can really play the same as black look at tcu,boise STANFORD-there like all white so stop the race ****.
 
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THE SOZ said:
White players can really play the same as black look at tcu,boise STANFORD-there like all white so stop the race ****.
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What percentage of the starters in the SEC are white? We can go even deeper and say what percentage of the skill position players in the SEC are white?
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
What percentage of the starters in the SEC are white? We can go even deeper and say what percentage of the skill position players in the SEC are white?
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Dont tell me there isnt black people in Knoxville,Memphis and Nashville, the reason our pop. of blacks are down is because besides those 3 cities its all country. So there is plenty of talent in those 3 cities thats where we should recruit and we should recruit the maryville alcoa area as well.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
What percentage of the starters in the SEC are white? We can go even deeper and say what percentage of the skill position players in the SEC are white?
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If I were a SEC HC coach I'd take the smartest/fastest/strongest athletes, regardless of skin color (ala Boise St.). I hire the smartest assistants that I could get and I'd win the SEC and the NC in a short period of time. Why? Because the learning curve would be shorter and I'd keep players for 4 years. My starters would be 3/4 year players and they'd know the system inside-and-out and be diciplined. I can't for the life of me figure out why more coaches don't follow this equation.
 
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#58
I grew up in Tennessee but live in Georgia now. The development begins much earlier here and youth sports is way more organized and serious in Georgia. This goes for baseball, football, basketball, soccer and really anything. Kids play in spring summer and fall leagues and it is much more competitive. My 2 cents.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
If I were a SEC HC coach I'd take the smartest/fastest/strongest athletes, regardless of skin color (ala Boise St.). I hire the smartest assistants that I could get and I'd win the SEC and the NC in a short period of time. Why? Because the learning curve would be shorter and I'd keep players for 4 years. My starters would be 3/4 year players and they'd know the system inside-and-out and be diciplined. I can't for the life of me figure out why more coaches don't follow this equation.
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Boise State doesn't have the fastest or strongest athletes.
 
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#61
My only wish is that Nazareth would have posted this garbage in the main forum so that the masses could really rip him a new one.

Catch a clue.
 
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old vol hound dog said:
Good points are made in the blog - However, I believe there is more to it - I grew up in Tennessee, went school at UT and started my career there. I since moved to and now live in North Alabama where our Vols have recruited some good players. I have been a high school referee in both states . One of the major differences is organization of the football programs here. In Alabama the programs start early in the schools, with efforts and various programs through out the year that continually develops and improves the players. Weight lifting / Power lifting teams,indoor track program works with players ,etc.. Each of these educate the kids. Coaches clinics are frequent to make sure that latest information is given out. Spring practices, summer programs all are very well organized. This does not cost as much as some will think - I have been to some of the poorest counties in Alabama and they have this same type of organization. Many people volunteer their time and expertise to support these programs. Friday night football is still special in the communities. I believe this is why Alabama and Auburn are always having a good percentage of players from in state.

I will also add a bigger view and thought- for years Nebraska Cornhuskers were known for very good offensive lineman primarily all from state of Nebraska - yet how many were 4 or 5 star high school recruits? Nebraska teach and develop the players . Go look at there roster and see how many in state players they have now ? How many assistant coaches can you remember from their staff?


One last thing - sure this organization helps the elite athletes - but it is the other athletes that gain the most - good work ethics - A reason to look forward to school - (they do not make good grades - they cannot play - state rules) A positive role model for some who may have no one else. Something to do other than hanging out and getting into trouble
I welcome other thoughts

GBO
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Good summary....you forgot, Nebraska gets it's corn from a cob, Tennessee gets it's corn from a jar.
Difference maker I say.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Boise State doesn't have the fastest or strongest athletes.
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I intentionally combined smartest/strongest/fastest to mean the smartest who are also pretty fast and strong. Those are EXACTLY the kind of athletes that Boise St., Stanford, and TCU are recruiting. And they are the athletes of the future. Watch and see. The SEC will be changing their recruiting in the next few years. As will all of college football.
 
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I'm surprised I haven't seen this thread before now. Interesting information that ties all the way back to key parts of this nations history.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I intentionally combined smartest/strongest/fastest to mean the smartest who are also pretty fast and strong. Those are EXACTLY the kind of athletes that Boise St., Stanford, and TCU are recruiting. And they are the athletes of the future. Watch and see. The SEC will be changing their recruiting in the next few years. As will all of college football.
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The SEC won't be changing anything because if it ain't broke, you don't fix it.
 
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One of the great things about being a UGA fan is that we get to see or hear about many of these guys in HS, and then see them play in Sanford Stadium. I had three teammates from HS who played at UGA and were very successful.
 
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