Why so difficult?

[zydane47]

The level of involvment from boosters varies from program to program. From what i have heard, boosters are a turn off at Tennessee. There was a story about a weeknor so ago, a booster calling CBJ during his locker room speech after a loss looking for an explanation.

Well at some point the coach has to grow a pair and tell the boosters to knock it off, you think Saban, Meyer or Swinney would allow that to happen?

A great coach would cut that stuff off quickly the problem with Jones was he was a somewhat yes man when it came to the boosters.

So boosters can be contained but he would also help if the coach is winning a bit more, a guy like Peterson or Patterson would most likely not allow anything like that to ever happen and if it did it would only be once

 

[CAVPUT]

Because elite winners are hard to find. And on a lot of occasions, due to timing, someone else got them first. We can argue all day about which big job is better than another, but if you are being honest, they are pretty much lateral moves. If you are winning and getting paid, you usually don't make a lateral move.

Technically, looking at Florida and Tennessee, there was only one hire made for both schools combined in the last 40 years that was any good that was the result of a "search".

Since the mid 70's, Tennessee called Johnny back home. He was an alumnus. That doesn't count. Then, Fulmer. Same thing. Kiffen, Doooley, and Jones were all failures.

For Florida....Doug Dickey. He was an alumnus and that didn't pan out. Charley Pell.....who won, but got Florida placed on probation. Galen Hall won with the players Charley got and lost when probation hit. Spurrier. An alumnus. That doesn't count. Zook. Fail. Meyer, the only hire for either school that worked out without having the "in" of being an alumnus. Muschamp. Fail. McElwain. Fail.

It's not easy.

Exactly..it's a crapshoot. No sure things among the group we will be hiring from. Currie has his work cut out for him.

 

[hog88]

Good point about the money other programs can pay now. I think most p5 programs can now match any reasonable increases in pay. This leaves us with increasing pay drastically, hiring an up and comer, getting someone who wants out of their situation, or hiring someone not currently employed. Several p5 programs can offer opportunities that were once not as easily offered because of increased money.

Same situation just about every SEC school is in. Just look at the hires made by SEC schools since Saban or heck even before him. All coordinators or HCs from non P5 programs (Les Miles is the exception).

 

[OriginalCoach]

Nobody is playing the vicim here, just asking an honest question. But I do believe your response nails it.

When Joe Castiiglione took over as AD at Oklahoma, the football program was at a low. He gambles on Stoops and it turns out well. He hires a known in-state HS girls BB coach (Coale) to take over a program that was actually dropped (attendence 100 or less) and she took them to 3 final fours. Hires a JUCO softball coach in Gasso and has 4 Nattys and several WCWS appearances and loaded for more runs. Hires Lon Kruger who is pretty established in Men's BB coaching ranks. Hires a men and women's gymnastics coaches that has won back to back Nattys. Tennis, golf, baseball, etc competition is strongest it's been in years.

Although I feel he could have handled the Mixon thing MUCH better, it is what it is and it seems he came thru it. Castiglione may have gotten lucky with Stoops hire, who knows. Dumb luck maybe. But he's been able to sort and pick out coaches that are competitive and winning, probably the reason he was chosen as AD of the year by all AD's.

So, does Currie have the same moxie? Both were AD's at Big 12 schools (Currie @ K-State and Castiglione @ Mizzou before Mizzou went SEC). Remains to be seen. But I do believe the answer does lie with the AD.

I believe this total meltdown by Currie this weekend answers the question as to why TN doesn't have coaches lined up

 

[BTS]

I dont think Currie had any intention of hiring anyone but shiano from the very beginning. I think he may have interviewed a couple people but i think that was just in case the media was able to get info so just a smoke screen. Shiano was Haslams and Curries guy from the very start