Why Not Tom Herman

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He was a great fit in Austin. He’d be a great fit at Washington, Washington State, UCLA, USC, UC Berkeley, Oregon, Oregon State...
 
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Glockmeister said:
Why not Tom Herman? Great recruiter, great offensive mind. Power 5 winning experince. Took Texas outta the gutter to places they haven't been in the last 10 years. Him with Steele as the DC might be great. I think him getting fired by his dream job where he played his college ball mighta humbled him a bit... maybe to the point of going to Tennessee with a chip on his shoulder. Also no buy out to pay for, right?
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Texas averaged 475 yards a game. I still see him as a very realistic option because of the position we are in to make a quick move. He also won a National Championship starting 3 different quarterbacks. (if only we had him last year at OC)
 
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No problem if White wants him (because in White we trust). However, obvious flag is that he was fired by fake UT. :rolleyes:
 
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Glockmeister said:
Why not Tom Herman? Great recruiter, great offensive mind. Power 5 winning experince. Took Texas outta the gutter to places they haven't been in the last 10 years. Him with Steele as the DC might be great. I think him getting fired by his dream job where he played his college ball mighta humbled him a bit... maybe to the point of going to Tennessee with a chip on his shoulder. Also no buy out to pay for, right?
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Because he is an arssss accoridng to multiple media guys......
 
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OriginalCoach said:
His reputation took a major hit when at Texas, not Houston. As for wins, I give more credit to the QB, Sam Ellingher than Tom Herman.
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OK, well we have QB's who can play too. UT's offense with Eric Grey running wild averaged 129 yards less a game. We need an offense that mirrors the CURRENT landscape of CFB.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
His reputation took a major hit when at Texas, not Houston. As for wins, I give more credit to the QB, Sam Ellingher than Tom Herman.
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Good qb play seems to go hand n hand with coaches winning. Great qb play = more wins
Josh Dobbs/ Butch Jones wins and looks good
Jg/Butch Jones AND Jeremy Pruitt fired.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
His reputation took a major hit when at Texas, not Houston. As for wins, I give more credit to the QB, Sam Ellingher than Tom Herman.
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Considering he won a natty as OC with 3 different QB's and has put up elite offensive numbers every school he has been at.. but yea, 1 QB has made his career.
 
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Birdie said:
Considering he won a natty as OC with 3 different QB's and has put up elite offensive numbers every school he has been at.. but yea, 1 QB has made his career.
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Go check out his Iowa St numbers.

He was hired to work under Myer on a stacked staff, on stacked teams, because they shared an agent. He inherited a great situation at Houston, left before his people skills caught up to him. Then he got passed by Iowa St at Texas!

He hasn’t built anything. He’s never done more with less. He’s had his hand held or had a talent advantages his entire tenure. Yet he’s such a POS he failed.

He’s a play-caller, not a HC. And that’s assuming he has superior talent
 
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Birdie said:
Considering he won a natty as OC with 3 different QB's and has put up elite offensive numbers every school he has been at.. but yea, 1 QB has made his career.
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If one hasn’t noticed, Herman wasn’t the HC at Ohio State with those 3 QBs. That was Meyer. Tell me what success Herman has had with QBs as HC, either at Houston or Texas. And if you for one minute believe that Herman’s wins at Texas the last couple of years was not mostly the doing of his QB, you’re crazy and crazier to hire him as HC.
 
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  • He rubbed players the wrong way and in some cases disrespected them (Longhorn hunger games: Why is Tom Herman giving some players steak and others burnt hot dogs?)
  • He rubbed media the wrong way
  • He rubbed the alumni the wrong way
  • (see a pattern?)
  • He was criticized heavily for not keeping the best players on the field in favor of forcing a rotation.
  • He didn't succeed in the Big 12. He didn't succeed in possibly the richest program in CFB. He was 1-4 against OU and consistently had problems with ISU and TCU
  • Although he seemed to recruit well, he was criticized for not getting the cream of Texas, unlike his predecessors (except for Strong).
  • Lane Kiffin when he was at UT was more mature-- "He taunted the Missouri quarterback in the waning minutes of a Texas Bowl win in 2017. He had a fiery confrontation with Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy after a tough road loss. In 2019, he head-butted his own players before a game, then flipped a double-barreled obscene hand gesture toward television cameras during live broadcast of national signing day. "
 
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Perspective said:
Go check out his Iowa St numbers.

He was hired to work under Myer on a stacked staff, on stacked teams, because they shared an agent. He inherited a great situation at Houston, left before his people skills caught up to him. Then he got passed by Iowa St at Texas!

He hasn’t built anything. He’s never done more with less. He’s had his hand held or had a talent advantages his entire tenure. Yet he’s such a POS he failed.

He’s a play-caller, not a HC. And that’s assuming he has superior talent
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Texas was 16-21 with terrible recruiting the 3yrs prior to his arrival. He went to the Big12 title game in year 2... what you say is incorrect

I do hear he is an ahole though. Seems to be the consensus opinion.
 
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