Why not add coaches' challenges?

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Why doesn't college basketball offer coaches' challenges like they have in the NFL? Give each coach two challenges per game. If the challenge is wrong it costs a time-out. For example, CRB could have challenged this bogus 3 point call that really cost UT. At the very least, I would put the spotlight on truly bad calls in-game.
WATCH: Did a bad call cost Tennessee in the loss at Auburn?
 
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FortSanders said:
Why doesn't college basketball offer coaches' challenges like they have in the NFL? Give each coach two challenges per game. If the challenge is wrong it costs a time-out. For example, CRB could have challenged this bogus 3 point call that really cost UT. At the very least, I would put the spotlight on truly bad calls in-game.
WATCH: Did a bad call cost Tennessee in the loss at Auburn?
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Didn't get to watch the second half, but watching the clip, it's very obvious the ball was tipped by an Auburn player. Was the play reviewed or did they just play on?
 
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GAVol said:
By rule I don't think he could. The shot was at 2:45 to go.
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Change the rules. IMHO, the refs would gain more credibility, if coaches had the ability to look over their shoulders and question their decisions. Refs who repeatedly make bad calls would be less likely to do so.
 
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Seattle Hillbilly said:
Vital hates reviews so the refs obeyed and played on.
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Vitale would go nuts if they added it. He went crazy in the LSU game and nearly stroked out. But, it is a bit convoluted that we can review an inbounds play under 2 minutes, but not a goaltend. To arbitrarily assign importance of one play over another befuddles me.
 
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1 point in a 4 point loss is still a 3 point loss. I know math is difficult, but that 1 point didn't lose the game.
 
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whobethis16 said:
1 point in a 4 point loss is still a 3 point loss. I know math is difficult, but that 1 point didn't lose the game.
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It was a goal tending call that was missed. They should have erased the 3 point play and given the ball to the Vols. It was closer to a 5 point swing. Tennessee never recovered.
 
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I don't think that you can put coaches' challenges in basketball since there are not natural stoppages in play like in football. Would everything that happens after the play in question be erased? Or do you give coaches the ability to stop play when they're on defense?
 
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FortSanders said:
It was a goal tending call that was missed. They should have erased the 3 point play and given the ball to the Vols. It was closer to a 5 point swing. Tennessee never recovered.
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Goaltending is not reviewable. Not difficult.

Rule 11, Section 1, Art. 4. The officials shall not use such available equipment for judgment calls such as: a. Determine whether a foul occurred. (Exceptions: A flagrant foul.) b. Determine whether basket interference or goaltending occurred. c. Determine whether a violation occurred except in Rules 11-2.1.e and 11-3.1.a.2.
 
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cardvolfan said:
Vitale would go nuts if they added it. He went crazy in the LSU game and nearly stroked out. But, it is a bit convoluted that we can review an inbounds play under 2 minutes, but not a goaltend. To arbitrarily assign importance of one play over another befuddles me.
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Of course little Dickie didn't like it. Something like this won't go over well with the mainstream that adores the blue bloods. Calls like this rarely go against the regals of the sport so there's really no impetus for things to be changed. I mean, really, who really cares if the great unwashed of the sport has the calls seemingly always go against them?
 
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whobethis16 said:
Goaltending is not reviewable. Not difficult.

Rule 11, Section 1, Art. 4. The officials shall not use such available equipment for judgment calls such as: a. Determine whether a foul occurred. (Exceptions: A flagrant foul.) b. Determine whether basket interference or goaltending occurred. c. Determine whether a violation occurred except in Rules 11-2.1.e and 11-3.1.a.2.
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That’s his point. Change the rules.

Goaltending that can’t be reviewed versus out of bounds that can be reviewed.
 
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VolGee4 said:
That’s his point. Change the rules.

Goaltending that can’t be reviewed versus out of bounds that can be reviewed.
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This board is full of people complaining about stoppage in play for reviews that are currently allowed (when the call benefited the Vols), but demand more when it doesn't? Talk about a bias.
 
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We have seen it all this year and it appears we are at the brunt of a very bad joke of officiating.

We put ourselves in that position at Auburn by allowing three blow bys in the lane. 6 points. Take the 3 pt basket away and the final 2:45 plays out differently.

Ky well it is just Ky and I hope we never see a game like that again.

LSU speaks for itself....Reviews and officiating. Jordan made sure he got it right.

Kansas one defensive Rebound Away.....

The season is now reset.....Put this behind us and win the SEC Tourney followed by the NCAA.
We are due and the refs will improve for both tournaments.
 
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whobethis16 said:
This board is full of people complaining about stoppage in play for reviews that are currently allowed (when the call benefited the Vols), but demand more when it doesn't? Talk about a bias.
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You have an answer for everything. It wasn't my point, but the point was that a play that determines a basket can't be reviewed, but a simple out of bounds or flagrant foul can be.

I think the focus should be on "what" to review. Some of these games are going long on things that are simple. A basket interference can be a critical call late in a game.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You have an answer for everything. It wasn't my point, but the point was that a play that determines a basket can't be reviewed, but a simple out of bounds or flagrant foul can be.

I think the focus should be on "what" to review. Some of these games are going long on things that are simple. A basket interference can be a critical call late in a game.
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His original point was wanting coaches to have the ability to challenge, in turn causing more reviews. He then added changing the rules, so he didn't even have his ducks in a row to what he wanted. Maybe that rule gets changed in the future, maybe it doesn't. The coaches are the ones who vote on changes, and how long has replay been implemented? There's obviously something that's making the coaches not want that one reviewable.
 
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whobethis16 said:
His original point was wanting coaches to have the ability to challenge, in turn causing more reviews. He then added changing the rules, so he didn't even have his ducks in a row to what he wanted. Maybe that rule gets changed in the future, maybe it doesn't. The coaches are the ones who vote on changes, and how long has replay been implemented? There's obviously something that's making the coaches not want that one reviewable.
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I don't believe the Rules Committee is made up entirely of coaches. In fact, with a quick check, exactly half are administrators, and exactly half are from D2 and D3 schools. D2 and D3 don't have the luxury of having television replay, so I don't think it's quite that simple. Also, Rick Barnes is on it.
 
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Much faster paced game than football. Before ball is snapped in football even if they hurry to line of scrimmage to get lined up. By then replay in coordinator booth can tell coach to challenge. In basketball its in and take ball out and off and running within 8-10 seconds. Thats not long to have seen a replay somewhere radio'd in to challenge. And at live speed who knows if CRB would have known what happened exactly from his angle. Now if it was before stoppage i see it could be an asset but how often is that?
 
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Simple. Give the coaches a certain number of reviewable calls per half/ game, in lieu of or in addition to calls or stoppages by the refs. For example, let the coaches have 4 challenges per half and eliminate most of the ref's other stoppages.
 
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