Why is there such a quarrel with Christianity today?

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T-TownVol said:
Most c of C members still pray in this KJ language......like it makes them sound scholarly
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My kids go (one went to and one goes) to a c of C school. Great people but not many ask my opinion on scripture anymore. I like to quote Old Testament, really freaks them out
 
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orange_crush said:
(i'm not saying that you're in any way out of line with the quoted post. I'm just saying that i've spent enough energy in discussion that was interpreted as 'taking shots', and i'd rather build on our shared beliefs than rehash our apparent differences. You will answer to god for yourself, and i'll answer for myself. I'm comfortable with both sides of that.)
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אני מתנצל
התכוונתי להתנהג בחוסר כבוד
שאלוהים יברך אותך


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MaxamusXIII said:
My kids go (one went to and one goes) to a c of C school. Great people but not many ask my opinion on scripture anymore. I like to quote Old Testament, really freaks them out
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I went to Lipscomb with some of those parents and a board member if he is still serving. Have not talked to him in a while. My family still attends c of C.
 
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MaxamusXIII said:
אני מתנצל
התכוונתי להתנהג בחוסר כבוד
שאלוהים יברך אותך


✌
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Back at you, bucko! I tried to be nice.

Just kidding.

None necessary.
Nor have I.
And you as well.

(I don't know how to make the peace fingers playboy bunny thingy...)
 
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Roustabout said:
The issue you are referencing through these texts is God's immutability, which i think we would all affirm. But, your claim is actually a non sequitur.

Just because God deals with man differently at different times does not mean God has changed, or changed His mind.

Example.
Genesis 2:16 Only eat from the garden
Genesis 9:3 Every living thing given to eat.
Leviticus 11 Dietary restrictions placed on Israel
Col. 2:16, 1 Tim. 4:3, Heb. 9:10, Rom 14:3,17
Restrictions now ended, and a matter of personal conscience.
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Mechanistically, how does this work?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
CWV, I'm not trying to be curt or rude, but I've already answered the method I used to make this specific determination. The answer was in the statement, as a matter of fact. And again, this isn't meant meant to be sarcastic, but if you are truly interested, I'll link several books for you on proper hermeneutics. It's a subject bigger than I'm willing to invest on an anonymous internet forum.

As to the views of women in the Bible, I'm not trying to justify anything. I've simply responded to two quotes from the Bible, explained my understanding of what the author said, gave the scriptural reasoning that author referenced as to why he/I believe that, and was mocked, insulted, and told that I hadn't given a reason.

But again, I'm not trying to justify it. You guys seem to have it backwards. God is my defender; I'm not His.

ETA:

I never used the "it was just the time..." argument. Just the opposite, actually.

Specifically to the "silent in church..." question, I said that I don't believe it was to be interpreted as a 'you'd better not utter a word once we enter that service' kind of thing because of Paul's words elsewhere where women were talking and publicly serving in the church.

Specific to the authority part, I pointed out that Paul gave a theological/scriptural reasoning behind it, which would make it expressly not a 'for the time' issue, but instead a 'God's plan' issue, which I stated very blatantly.

That's one reason that I'm at such a loss with GV. He/She has repeatedly asked me to defend things that I didn't say, selectively quoted me, and then kept telling me to answer things that I've already answered. He/she may not like the answers. He/she may think those answers make me a misogynist. That's fine. But to repeatedly ask for answers that have been given is a bit dense and tiring.

And, considering my description of my wife and my marriage, which I see as Biblical and mutually loving/respectful, I can't see how I can be seen as misogynistic. But that's cool. Like I said... God is my defender. I'm not His.

:hi:
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I wonder what his stance is on Islam. If he has misogynistic issues with Christianity, then he should be out burning Korans.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I wonder what his stance is on Islam. If he has misogynistic issues with Christianity, then he should be out burning Korans.
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I love the way people keep bringing up islam like atheists support islam or consider it a better religion. I've yet to see a religion that wasn't backwards.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
c of C believes in tiers of heaven don't they? I just don't understand that, heaven is heaven.
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I've been told that belief is based on Yeshua saying.....Mathew 10:15
Yes, I tell you, it will be more tolerable on the Day of Judgment for the people of S’dom and ‘Amora than for that town!

So if levels of punishment exist then levels of rewards exist.

I disagree but that's what I was told when I asked.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I love the way people keep bringing up islam like atheists support islam or consider it a better religion. I've yet to see a religion that wasn't backwards.
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I wouldn't go so far as to say that all religions are "backwards," although I agree with you that none are founded in any evidence or apparent truth. The Abrahamic Trio, however, is the biggest kicker for "backwardsness." In making the world a strict absolutist narrative (probably the result of a strong monotheism), those three sent us in a direction from which I'm not sure we'll ever come back. Those three, in particular, make people do incredibly irrational and violent things. Throw in the brilliance of the promise of eternal life, particularly in Christianity and Islam, and you have a recipe for large numbers of devotees willing to do lots of crazy things, all based upon no evidence whatsoever.

There's plenty of "crazy" in other faiths, but the Abrahamic Trio cornered the market a long time ago. People, in much larger numbers, are willing to do things for those three that they just aren't for other religions.
 
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gobraves101035 said:
c of C believes in tiers of heaven don't they? I just don't understand that, heaven is heaven.
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It is more of a "treasures" in heaven thing.....the more good you do on earth earns you more "stuff" in heaven....have not heard "levels" mentioned

Matt 6:20
 
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T-TownVol said:
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THIS might be the understatement of the year so far.
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Seriously? Every time we post something from the bible you (as in all Christians in this thread) cry that it's taken out of context and how you have to consider the times, and how God had to accept somethings due to the times.

Idk of anything that the bible is clear on.
 
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volprof said:
I wouldn't go so far as to say that all religions are "backwards," although I agree with you that none are founded in any evidence or apparent truth. The Abrahamic Trio, however, is the biggest kicker for "backwardsness." In making the world a strict absolutist narrative (probably the result of a strong monotheism), those three sent us in a direction from which I'm not sure we'll ever come back. Those three, in particular, make people do incredibly irrational and violent things. Throw in the brilliance of the promise of eternal life, particularly in Christianity and Islam, and you have a recipe for large numbers of devotees willing to do lots of crazy things, all based upon no evidence whatsoever.

There's plenty of "crazy" in other faiths, but the Abrahamic Trio cornered the market a long time ago. People, in much larger numbers, are willing to do things for those three that they just aren't for other religions.
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No evidence? ok.

I find it absolutely comical that people blame the evil of mankind on religion. Mankind has fought and killed over non-religious issues. The truth is, mankind doesn't need much provocation. Mankind corrupts most everything he touches, including religion. James stated that true religion was caring for widows and oprhans. How dare he. Portraying Christians as this monolithic, hateful group, who want to kill *****s is a much more dangerous narrative.

Provide me an example of a mainstream Christian denomination promoting violence based on their belief in eternal life. Many of these posts are a horrid mischaracterzation.
Some of the greatest crimes and genocide in modern times have been perpetrated by regimes that are non-religious.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Seriously? Every time we post something from the bible you (as in all Christians in this thread) cry that it's taken out of context and how you have to consider the times, and how God had to accept somethings due to the times.

Idk of anything that the bible is clear on.
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That is because you are not a believer and you are always looking for a fight.......not playing your "gotcha" game
 
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T-TownVol said:
That is because you are not a believer and you are always looking for a fight.......not playing your "gotcha" game
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It's not a gotcha game, it's a simple fact. The majority of the bibles stances are vague at best. It is not black and white as you claimed.
 
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If the bible was clear on all of its stances, you wouldn't have the countless different denominations that you have.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Seriously? Every time we post something from the bible you (as in all Christians in this thread) cry that it's taken out of context and how you have to consider the times, and how God had to accept somethings due to the times.

Idk of anything that the bible is clear on.
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Vol8188 said:
It's not a gotcha game, it's a simple fact. The majority of the bibles stances are vague at best. It is not black and white as you claimed.
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1 Cor 2:14

But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If the bible was clear on all of its stances, you wouldn't have the countless different denominations that you have.
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coC generally believes all the other denominations are wrong, though if you talk with them they will claim that's not what they are saying even though that's what they are saying. I'm sure there are some individual coC members that don't necessarily feel that way but for the most part that's how it is.
 
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Gramps said:
1 Cor 2:14

But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
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This isn't a matter of my faith. It's a simple fact. Why do so many different forms of Christianity exist? Because of disputes over things that aren't clear in the bible.
 
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