Why is the Arizona St AD worried about Tennessee for?

#77
#77
Hiring a head coach with a career winning percentage of 42% (Herm Edwards) seems like he should stay in his own lane when talking about clusters. That hire is Dooley-esque and you already know how it's going to end in 3-4 years.
 
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Phil was a pariah. But no longer. He wouldn’t gracefully exit as most disgraced fired coaches would and instead hung around and now finagled his way back in and is celebrated by the hoards
 
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KBVol said:
Az State in the 90s- 62-51
Tenn in the 90s- 98-22-3

Throw in a national title and 6 top 10 finishes for the Vols.

Our 1990s were a fair bit better than their 1990s.
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I meant Rose Bowl instead of Sun Bowl. It was really only one amazing year, but they were seconds away from a national title. Just a very random peak.
 
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n_huffhines said:
No. He's raised a ton of $ and hired Bobby Hurley. One bad football hire isn't a death sentence at most schools.
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He won't have Hurley to help after this year. He's gone to Louisville for a fat raise or somewhere else that isn't a basketball graveyard. If you think football is joke at Arizona St. check out their basketball program. Zero PAC championships in 40 years and no valid* Sweet Sixteens in almost 50 years.
 
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Orange defense said:
https://amp.knoxnews.com/amp/953526001
He seems to be worried about Philip Fulmer, but why? They are on the west coast. :thud::lolabove::eek:lol:
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To tell the truth, I'm a bit concerned about the level of Phil's involvement too. It's as though his unprecedented involvement is looking over Pruitt's shoulder. Dictating what the coach can and can't do regarding recruiting and later even coaching the team. I think having selected his coach, Phil should back off while also making sure NCAA rules are followed and student-athletes are treated fairly, that sort of stuff. But taking on duties traditionally those of a coach seems a bit much. I hope he isn't taking on a Vlad the Impaler and Mao Zedong role. I see lot of pitfalls in being such a non-traditional AD. On the other hand, he might crazy like a fox.
 
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Phil: Hello, Coach Anderson, Phillip Fulmer here.
Ray: umm, oh hi.
Phil: I just wanted to call since we’ve never met to see if I’ve offended you or if maybe you were misquoted.
Ray: well, you know, things always kind of, ummm...
Phil: so, you didn’t call me a pariah?
Ray: I, uh, ummm, well, ummm....
Phil: good luck with the Herm Edwards hire, you jackass.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
To tell the truth, I'm a bit concerned about the level of Phil's involvement too. It's as though his unprecedented involvement is looking over Pruitt's shoulder. Dictating what the coach can and can't do regarding recruiting and later even coaching the team. I think having selected his coach, Phil should back off while also making sure NCAA rules are followed and student-athletes are treated fairly, that sort of stuff. But taking on duties traditionally those of a coach seems a bit much. I hope he isn't taking on a Vlad the Impaler and Mao Zedong role. I see lot of pitfalls in being such a non-traditional AD. On the other hand, he might crazy like a fox.
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I suspect he will peel back form the recruiting as the staff is rounded out next year and Pruitt isn't coaching UT as a side gig to Bama. Fulmer is a proven recruiter, there is a big hill to climb, and they are short bodies ready to go out and get people until the College Playoffs are done.
 
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I know this will be unpopular, but our entire administration is a cluster. If other ADs believe the story that Fulmer did a power play and ousted Currie (given Phil's history, you have to give credence to the story) then other ADs are likely to be less than enthusiastic towards him.

All that said, if Pruitt wins, Fulmer will be fine. If Pruitt doesn't, the cluster continues.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I know this will be unpopular, but our entire administration is a cluster. If other ADs believe the story that Fulmer did a power play and ousted Currie (given Phil's history, you have to give credence to the story) then other ADs are likely to be less than enthusiastic towards him.

All that said, if Pruitt wins, Fulmer will be fine. If Pruitt doesn't, the cluster continues.
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Of course other ADs believe it. Our idiot former AD spread it around to try and save face and take the focus away from his complete incompetence. It was reported yesterday in a story that 12 different sources told him there was NO power play by Fulmer and he was asked/begged to take the spot by a few Anderson and Thornton to keep Haslam's secondary pet from getting the job.
 
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FBtime said:
Of course other ADs believe it. Our idiot former AD spread it around to try and save face and take the focus away from his complete incompetence. It was reported yesterday in a story that 12 different sources told him there was NO power play by Fulmer and he was asked/begged to take the spot by a few Anderson and Thornton to keep Haslam's secondary pet from getting the job.
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I saw that story, but frankly, don't believe it. It read like pure athletic dept propaganda. Fulmer campaigned heavily for the AD job earlier this year and I don't believe for a second he didn't care to get it when this crap show unfolded.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I saw that story, but frankly, don't believe it. It read like pure athletic dept propaganda. Fulmer campaigned heavily for the AD job earlier this year and I don't believe for a second he didn't care to get it when this crap show unfolded.
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I have no problem with Fulmer screwing Currie over. Currie sabotaged himself period. His press statement showed he only had Schiano targeted, he had followed him for years.

Idk if Phil campaigned for the job while Currie was still the AD and I don't give a damn. Pruitt's contract looks like we have an infinitely more qualified AD now. Clowns like the asu ad makes me think a former coach might be a better hire than a business guy.
 
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Sounds like the Academics had intended on the overall takeover of Football to lessen its importance. Making most teams sub par reigns in apathy thus causing less care from a fan base. There is a difference from being a sports fan and a fan of a team in the power 5. One is a b!tch and the other is someone who mike throw a blow if you talk to much trash.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I saw that story, but frankly, don't believe it. It read like pure athletic dept propaganda. Fulmer campaigned heavily for the AD job earlier this year and I don't believe for a second he didn't care to get it when this crap show unfolded.
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Currie exposed himself as an incompetent buffoon and Haslam puppet. I couldn't care less whether Fulmer was lobbying for the job or not. I also couldn't give a flip what other ADs think about him. Since when does an AD have to be well liked by his peers to be successful?
 
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maotai said:
This is what I was thinking, he is worried that and ex coach might remind people that you do not need a hired gun MBA to run an athletic department.
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Exactly. It's a pretty simple job in concept. At UT it means having a successful football program to keep the fans happy, and the rest falls into place. Anything else can be delegated to somebody from a business skool.

Best way to run something successfully is to head it up with someone who knows the business - not somebody who thinks he's trained to manage the business. There's a big difference, and that's why ex HCs make the best ADs - they know the business.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
It has to be personal, such as a friendship with Currie. It does not serve ASU's interests for him to make these comments. It does nothing but potentially injure ASU's reputation. These ADs know better than doing something like this, so something that is emotion based like this means he's definitely buds with Currie.
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Likely he doesn't like the "professionals" being shown up by ex-coach ADs. Just imagine being outclassed by an ex-jock with shaken brain syndrome.
 
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Denton'sGhostGBO said:
Sounds like the Academics had intended on the overall takeover of Football to lessen its importance. Making most teams sub par reigns in apathy thus causing less care from a fan base. There is a difference from being a sports fan and a fan of a team in the power 5. One is a b!tch and the other is someone who mike throw a blow if you talk to much trash.
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Kinda funny how they would amputate the hand that feeds them if this theory holds any water.
 
#100
#100
Who cares what Arizona St's AD says? They had a decent little run with Plummer. That's it.
 
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