Why is nobody talking much about Dobbs?

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He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
 
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All of this was said repeatedly in the game thread. It's been discussed.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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Maybe if the play calling wasn't horrible and he had more than 2 seconds to pass he would have looked better
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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He's being horribly misused and has been all year
 
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UTandUNC said:
I was at the game and didn't read the game thread. It would have just been 2 hours off my life I'll never get back that weren't worth it.
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And the 4 hours you spent at the game were worth it? That game wasn't solely on Dobbs. Our entire offense scheme was garbage today.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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I agree about having time to throw. Sure, he was rushed a lot, but for the most part he had time to make a play. I just think Debord called an awful game for him. Bama's weakness is their secondary. Sure, a pick six can happen at any moment, but their secondary has given up 400+ yards twice this year I think. Dobbs had time to throw the ball downfield, but Debord kept calling screens and really gave him no chance. On the drive where we got a field goal we called plays to throw the ball downfield and we had success. We just didn't do that near enough. Debord was scared.
 
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You can single out Dobbs all you'd like if that makes you feel better.

But the entire team was systemically bad. I don't even have anything to complain about because if I did single something out, I wouldn't be doing justice to the 17 other things worth complaining about.

It was just a meltdown. These things happen. We will smoke the cocks in 2 weeks and everyone will be back on the sane train.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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Have to cut him some slack today.... he was writing a term paper on orbital trajectories for the Mars mission in his head while trying to execute both of the plays that DeBord had for the team today.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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Most people have said these things all year. But if you say it you are called a negavol.
 
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Dobbs is what he's always been--an above average runner with an above-average intelligence for the game, with an average arm and below average accuracy. He's not the kind that can put a team on his back and make plays where they aren't there to be made. It is what it is. He's done very well for us and we are 5-2 and he's come back to win some games while putting us in a lot of bad positions in those same games. This team seems to be getting a lot out of the guy.
 
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Better question is why didn't we move the pocket more. Hurst had plenty of time to throw yet they moved their pocket several times. And the million dollar question. Why did we waste 20 plus plays giving the ball to try and go off tackle. It only takes 1 time slamming my head into a door realizing that it isn't a good idea. Still shaking my head at this play calling today.
 
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UTandUNC said:
I was at the game and didn't read the game thread. It would have just been 2 hours off my life I'll never get back that weren't worth it.
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Oh. I wasn't being a smart butt, just figured you didn't read the thread.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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How many rushing yards did we have in this game? Did we have enough to keep the defense at least a tad bit honest? The answer is categorically no. But I digress.

How many people on the offense side of the ball would you say actually performed well? The only guys I saw that actually performed well were Barnett, Tuttle and Daniel.

Dobbs played as bad as the OL did. Which was terrible. Peyton Manning would have gotten destroyed in this game. But hey Dobbs is the reason for our losses right?
 
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I'm probably wrong on this but it seems like Josh will not throw the ball unless the person is completely open. That is to say he does not anticipate the breaks and throw to an open spot. There was a play where Juwan Jennings ran a slant route, had Doods anticipated the route he would have hit him quite easily if he could just anticipate. Easy for me to say I don't have those monsters from Alabama chasing and hitting me repeatedly. But there were some really open place, the Ethan Wolf no throw comes to mind.
 
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UTandUNC said:
He absolutely blew that game today. There were many, many, many examples of when he made the wrong read, either with the throw or whether to pull the ball and run.

The guy has played some great games for us, but he absolutely laid an egg today. Maybe he felt footsteps, maybe he just had an off day, but he was absolutely terrible. And don't give me the **** about not having time to throw. He had time many times and still made the wrong read or held the damn ball too long when someone was open.
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^^ his guy..:birgits_giggle:
 
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Dobbs is streaky. He'll never beat a team on his throwing alone. Sadly that seems like Bama's biggest weakness. Add in the fact he was faced with many 3rd and forevers, it put him in a tough position.
 
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We should start letting Dormady run 3-4 series a game. Let's prepare him for next year and see what we have.
 
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It looked like he caught some tough breaks and got bum-rushed for three early sacks that had to factor into later snaps. By the time he seemed to settle down and get something going, it was already an overwhelming deficit.

I don't think anyone gets to the level of performance he has already proven himself to be for us so many times without him being his own worst critic. Naturally, the whole team was disappointed in the combined team effort overall.

I'd love to find out during the bye week, there will be some productive film review by players and staff to identify exactly how to correct mistakes made and taking into consideration the injuries or any other adversities, identify the problems and then make the necessary adjustments to adapt for tangible improvements for the rest of the schedule.

I like what Derek Barnett said about part 1 of the season is over and now it's season 2, like a new season from this point forward and I like what Todd Kelly, Jr. said about only focusing on the very next game. I can't remember which of the two said it, but how they won't let one football game define the entire season for them with football left to play.

I do admit I believe it would be immensely satisfying to see everyone heal up, get that much-needed rest and then regroup for an incredible opportunity to avenge our two losses by winning the rest of our games, win the East and then beat whoever we could face in the West to win a conference championship.

That's a tall, tall mountain but this team didn't get to where they are now without facing challenges and overcoming some probabilities along the way.

My desire for the staff, the players and all of Vol Nation is to see the team have the opportunity to execute an entire game winning all four quarters without surrendering a lead because I believe the coaches and players deserve to actualize on the football field in reality what they already know inside is true about what they're capable of achieving.

I was very, very pleased at the improvement in ball security.

Dobbs has the character of a champion. I'd love to see him and the team win a championship because of the way they've fought their hearts out in less than ideal situations so far this year.

I think we can trust the paid coaches and the players to identify and correct the issues needed to finish this season strong and that they probably all feel brow-beaten enough about Saturday afternoon. Right now, they need to know we still love and support them. I believe every true fan does. I know I do. Keep your head up Josh Dobbs, Coaches and team, there's still plenty of football left to play this season and a championship that has yet to be decided officially until the end of the year -- and not just one or two losses.
 
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UtahVol said:
Dobbs is what he's always been--an above average runner with an above-average intelligence for the game, with an average arm and below average accuracy. He's not the kind that can put a team on his back and make plays where they aren't there to be made. It is what it is. He's done very well for us and we are 5-2 and he's come back to win some games while putting us in a lot of bad positions in those same games. This team seems to be getting a lot out of the guy.
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Multiple 300 yard passing, 100 yard rushing, 5 TD games says otherwise. He's put the team on his back several times and won us big games (See South Carolina 2014, Georgia 2015, Florida 2016).

Yesterday was something even Rose Bowl Vince Young couldn't do.

We were missing 4 of 5 starters on the o-line. Our tackles were Drew Richmond (who couldn't block guys from App State) Marcus Tatum (a 265 lbs true freshmen whose redshirt we had to burn). And we're playing a fully healthy and well-rested Alabama defense.

I mean are you freaking kidding me?

No QB could succeed under those conditions.
 
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To the people who are trashing Dobbs, and yes thats what you are doing, need to realize something. In the 2 and a half years he has started at QB, has he ever really had a real SEC caliber OL? One that he can trust on a regular basis? One that he can rely on to give him ample time to make reads? And when he does, how many drops have their been? Or WRs who fail to get open? How many times has guys like Malone, Smith, Wolf and Williams failed to get separation?

Its mutually excepted that our OL has been crappy for at least 2 years. Yet in that span, time and time again, we have relied on Dobbs to take this team on his back and carry us to victory. And way more often than not, he has delivered. The same ones who are trashing Dobbs should also be trashing the OL. You fail to understand that being a QB is much more than your arm. You need WRs who can catch and make plays. You need an OL who can block. You need a good OC. It all factors in. Has Dobbs made dumb mistakes? Yes he has. So have many other QBs.

Here is a fact. Without Josh Dobbs, we are not 2-0 in bowl games and definitely not on pace to win the East and go to the SECCG.
 
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vfl_gbo said:
I'm probably wrong on this but it seems like Josh will not throw the ball unless the person is completely open. That is to say he does not anticipate the breaks and throw to an open spot. There was a play where Juwan Jennings ran a slant route, had Doods anticipated the route he would have hit him quite easily if he could just anticipate. Easy for me to say I don't have those monsters from Alabama chasing and hitting me repeatedly. But there were some really open place, the Ethan Wolf no throw comes to mind.
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1) Maybin
2) Sutton
3) Wiesman
4) Kirkland
5) Robertson
6) Sapp
7) McDowell
8) McKenzie
9) O'Brien
10) P Williams
11) Foreman
12) Hall
13) Kendrick

This was embarassing for everyone, but YOU CAN NOT EXPECT TO HANG WITH BAMA WITHOUT 13 STARTERS/MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
How many rushing yards did we have in this game? Did we have enough to keep the defense at least a tad bit honest? The answer is categorically no. But I digress.

How many people on the offense side of the ball would you say actually performed well? The only guys I saw that actually performed well were Barnett, Tuttle and Daniel.

Dobbs played as bad as the OL did. Which was terrible. Peyton Manning would have gotten destroyed in this game. But hey Dobbs is the reason for our losses right?
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Offense was hot garbage today........just terrible
 
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