why even score that last TD

#51
#51
UTK said:
Never can really think of a situation really.
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again, it's more rare

situation like the giants were in with the Super Bowl: where either the TD or the FG gives you the lead, but the full score (TD+XP) only puts you up less than 7...and you're playing a team with a good enough QB that they can easily drive down the field if you give them too much time

the idea's still to score (since either gives you the lead, but preferably the TD), but to take as much time off the clock as you can so you don't give the other team (in that case, a team led by a Tom Brady or someone) to efficiently drive down the field and score the game winning score

The point's never to fully avoid the score but to say have the RB stop at the one and then use the next play or 2 or 3 to run off clock and/or make the other team use their timeouts (since they know they're going to most likely need to try to get the ball back and score).



The defensive counterpart would "letting the offense score" quickly in a situation where you're already down, you need time to score, and the TD still only puts you down a score (usually if you're down only 1 point and no timeouts left is when you might see something like this...the offensive player is usually too excited at the open score to realize and stop)



Either way though, here would not have been the appropriate time to use it. If anything UT would have wanted less to milk the clock (with a wavy kicker and some of the on and off offensive issues/struggles) and more to make sure they got the score the way the game had been going.
 
#52
#52
ochocinco is completely, 100% right. It's funny how people let emotion cloud their judgment. It also shows how people are so shortisighted they can't even see the big picture beyond the immediate play. Going down at the one gave us a better chance at winning.

If you disagree, PROVE otherwise. Prove that we're more likely to miss the kick than blow the lead.
 
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UTRavens said:
ochocinco is completely, 100% right. It's funny how people let emotion cloud their judgment. It also shows how people are so shortisighted they can't even see the big picture beyond the immediate play. Going down at the one gave us a better chance at winning.

If you disagree, PROVE otherwise. Prove that we're more likely to miss the kick than blow the lead.
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We scored & won the game. Proof enough?
 
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#54
UTRavens said:
ochocinco is completely, 100% right. It's funny how people let emotion cloud their judgment. It also shows how people are so shortisighted they can't even see the big picture beyond the immediate play. Going down at the one gave us a better chance at winning.

If you disagree, PROVE otherwise. Prove that we're more likely to miss the kick than blow the lead.
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Or you could prove that you're right...since proving a hypothetical situation is possible and all. You prove that they had a better chance of scoring a td and getting the 2 pt conversion or tying the game and winning in OT than PALARDY did of missing the kick or one of our RBs fumbling. Prove it.
 
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#56
#56
Now why, I don't think you ever lay down to keep points off the board, I really had a problem with the 1st down series before the one that we scored on, there was appx 2 mins left. 1st and 2nd was incomplete. We have to be able to run the ball there in that situation and keep the clock going and get the td late. But regardless, I do think Lane was in the right to score, and I would have been really mad if he had laid down.

But I do understand the point. We could take the knee, kick a last second chip shot FG to win or go up 7, but our D that can't stop anything out there, Troy may score (and they would have probably went for 2).

Its just who do you trust more, Palardy from a 20 yd FG or our D not giving up 80 yards to Troy. Personally, I trust neither. Pick your poison
 
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mkil5 said:
Now why, I don't think you ever lay down to keep points off the board, I really had a problem with the 1st down series before the one that we scored on, there was appx 2 mins left. 1st and 2nd was incomplete. We have to be able to run the ball there in that situation and keep the clock going and get the td late. But regardless, I do think Lane was in the right to score, and I would have been really mad if he had laid down.

But I do understand the point. We could take the knee, kick a last second chip shot FG to win or go up 7, but our D that can't stop anything out there, Troy may score (and they would have probably went for 2).

Its just who do you trust more, Palardy from a 20 yd FG or our D not giving up 80 yards to Troy. Personally, I trust neither. Pick your poison
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thats exactly the question. personally, i trust palardy more than the defense

troy averaged over 7 yards a play and had scored on 8 of 12 possessions so far. then factor in they would be in their 2 minute offense and have FOUR plays to pick up 10 yards vs a defense that had played 58 minutes already and would be in the universal prevent. leaving them 1:38 with 1 timeout is plenty of time to score a TD.
 
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ochocinco said:
thats exactly the question. personally, i trust palardy more than the defense

troy averaged over 7 yards a play and had scored on 8 of 12 possessions so far. then factor in they would be in their 2 minute offense and have FOUR plays to pick up 10 yards vs a defense that had played 58 minutes already and would be in the universal prevent. leaving them 1:38 with 1 timeout is plenty of time to score a TD.
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If he would of took a knee at the one and then our kicker missed the field goal you would of made a thread that said.

"Dooley is such an idiot, why did we take a knee at the one, worst play call in history"


lmao
 
#60
#60
ochocinco said:
am i the only one that thinks the worst call of Dooley's career was not telling Marlin Lane to fall down at the 1 instead of scoring that last TD?
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Fall down at the 1 in a tie game with our FG kickers??..IMO Absolutely insane..FAIL
 
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#61
UTRavens said:
ochocinco is completely, 100% right. It's funny how people let emotion cloud their judgment. It also shows how people are so shortisighted they can't even see the big picture beyond the immediate play. Going down at the one gave us a better chance at winning.

If you disagree, PROVE otherwise. Prove that we're more likely to miss the kick than blow the lead.
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Well how about FOUR missed extra points this season..Boy, really hard to "prove" the TD argument..MUCH better to be up by a TD than facing OT with a missed FG..Geez!!!:loco:
 
#62
#62
So we can attempt to go BOWLING and the headlines read: Dooley takes the Vols to a long awaited Bowl game.
You see, we are making progress and setting all kinds of records both good and bad. The record setting Vols led by no other than Derek Dooley.
 
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