Why don't we go out and hire more coaches?

#26
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wmcovol said:
I'd hire Art Briles as a consultant and get the passing game going. It just appears to me that every pass Tennessee throws is a tough, pretty well covered pass. Other teams appear to get people more open and easier passes to complete.

I realize this offense has run nothing yet that hasn't already been on tape for opponents to see. I'm just saying some guys appear to be able to get people open easier than Tennessee does.
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With these run/pass option plays we have been relying on, coupled with our OL problems, it makes it difficult to get the timing right for any QB and everything is fairly easy to defend.

Consider:

1) Defenses know that they only have to show press coverage to avoid that first quick pass to the outside. You can drop out of it after the snap if you want as you have already defended the threat.

2) Next you can roll a safety up toward the linebackers in case you get a run by Dobbs or Hurd.

3) If you see max protect blocking from Tennessee, drop that safety back into coverage - i.e. Hurd and Wolf both picking up a pass rusher - you know they are passing and need extra blockers. If Wolf leaks out the backfield you can find him. If he stays in to block, you better find Josh Malone asap.

Where Tennessee can still kill people, even with our blocking issues, is that Dobbs can then tuck and run at any point and rattle off 40 yards.

If our Oline can progress to hold up with 5 blockers or 5+1, then we will throttle most teams by a few scores.
 
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madbamahater said:
How do you know he doesn't "care much" for Kiffin? Because you don't like him, you assume everyone else doesn't, including Saban?

I wouldn't mind Kiffin coaching at UT again. If the result is winning at a high level.

You don't believe in forgiveness and second chances?

Any rational person has to blame Mike Hamilton for what happened at UT while he was here....even down to Hamilton personally telling me they didn't budget for plastic forks at a dinner they served beans or potato salad at. Literally told me that to my face when I asked him where forks were.

That's the kind of person that was running the athletic department....

He then sent some young female employ or intern to get me a couple of plastic forks from who knows where. Very strange ordeal....
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i'm in agreement about hamilton... somewhat about kiffin. lame had us on the road to probation,likely. surely, by now, his ego has been restructured. i understand about 2nd chances, etc... but with kiffin coming back to UT in any fashion I doubt will ever happen. i see him getting possibly one more chance as a head coach at a major college. maybe even in the SEC. it's likely to be his last shot and i can envision him being a good coach. i think his offensive experience is far better than we have at UT.
 
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Saban trying to use big names enhance the recruiting out west with the hiring of Sark...Bama has big pockets, we don't, but do believe we could benefit with a dedicated, experienced QB coach.

GO VOLS!
 
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#31
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UT has saved their money on coach consultants. Heck, they get all the so called expert advise and then some they need by reading VN message board. Do you need a link?
 
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CAVPUT said:
Alabama is in a unique position. Saban will likely go down as one of the games greatest coaches. He's at one of the nations premier programs. He's totally secure in his position and every move he makes seems to work. He's able to put aside friendships and work with talented coaches he may not care much for (Kiffin). He's got no qualms about making changes and has a seemingly endless budget to get what he wants and needs. I won't go so far as to say he has full control, but it's as close as this game will ever see. He's driven/obsessed with winning. I see little in common with UT and Butch Jones. In fact, I see many of the opposite traits. We aren't Bama. We don't have Saban. Reality.
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He transformed bammer's wreckage in to a football machine,his assistants have assistants, allowing them to focus on their jobs.
 
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Way ahead of you, got a new addition starting next week......

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ChattaTNVol said:
I thought about my comment afterwards and think BOT probably has a point too. These guys get paid big bucks ($300k?) so like you say they probably bring something to the table but they're not getting paid in the vicinity of what they could earn as a coach. In that sense, having worked for Saban might be a good resume enhancer. So I could see it going both ways. I don't think Saban is in the charity business but then these guys presumably will move on to higher paying gigs once they "rehabilitate" their careers. Right now they have a job to do on his staff and I'm confident he expects them to offer significant contributions.

I'm impressed that his ego doesn't seem to be a hindrance. A lot of times people in his position with such acclaim can come across as know-it-alls. I've always admired leaders who solicited ideas from their team and actually deployed some of those ideas. I've worked with both kinds - the latter tend to be much more successful and a lot more enjoyable to work with.
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Just because Saban seems an egotistical ass to media and the public at large does not mean he is that way to people he hires. To You and I and others who irritate him, he will stand on stacks of phone books in a vain attempt to look down on us. but he may be a very different person if he values you in some way.

Only thing I know for sure is whatever he is doing works, and he is smart enough to bring in guys help evolve his system. And everybody else is rushing to catch up.
 
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It's not about the money. UT is the most profitable program in the SEC. UTAD can afford to hire as many consultants as they want; they are simply choosing not to do so. Staffing, including the hiring of consultants, is within CBJ's purview. He, for his own reasons, must not feel he needs-- or does not want-- additional help.
 
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LA Vol said:
It's not about the money. UT is the most profitable program in the SEC. UTAD can afford to hire as many consultants as they want; they are simply choosing not to do so. Staffing, including the hiring of consultants, is within CBJ's purview. He, for his own reasons, must not feel he needs-- or does not want-- additional help.
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Id love to see your figures on this....
 
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LA Vol said:
It's not about the money. UT is the most profitable program in the SEC. UTAD can afford to hire as many consultants as they want; they are simply choosing not to do so. Staffing, including the hiring of consultants, is within CBJ's purview. He, for his own reasons, must not feel he needs-- or does not want-- additional help.
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This was from 2013-14, but Tennessee had the highest recruiting budget. Not sure about over football budget, but they have to somewhat mirror each other:

14) Mississippi State University: $683,487

13) University of South Carolina: $758,931

12) University of Mississippi: $874,951

11) University of Missouri: $879,101

10) Louisiana State University: $892,996

9) Texas A&M University: $900,537

8) University of Florida: $1,090,107

7) University of Georgia: $1,148,138

6) Vanderbilt University: $1,191,931

5) University of Arkansas: $1,194,823

4) University of Kentucky: $1,277,761

3) The University of Alabama: $1,708,683

2) Auburn University: $2,061,288

1) The University of Tennessee: $2,096,236


*UK is spending a lot on recruiting, just to suck.
 
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Butch currently could use an OC, QB specialist, Linebacker specialist, and a new manual. I have my doubts about our special team situation, too!

GO VOLS!!!
 
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wmcovol said:
Id love to see your figures on this....
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SEC 2014-15 Revenue

Big Six
Alabama $97M
UT $94M
Auburn $87M
LSU $86M
UGA $76M
Florida $75M

Arkansas $66M
TAMU $62M
SCAR $60M


The SEC is the most profitable conference in CFB, collecting $112M from bowl games and the College Football Playoff, plus another $350M from TV deals, including more than $112M in SEC Network profits in 2014-2015. On average, SEC football teams generated $63.5M in revenue last year, up more than $6M from the prior year. Tennessee generated $94M in revenue in 2014-15—the third highest in the nation—behind only Alabama, which earned $97M in revenue and Texas, which earned $121M in revenue in 2014-15.

No SEC program maximizes its bottom line more than Tennessee, which realized a profit margin of 74% of revenue last year—second only to Texas. Just seven other teams in CFB had a profit exceeding 60% of revenue. UT has a higher profit margin because the school invests disproportionately less revenue back into its football program. Alabama, followed by Auburn, spent the most on their football programs last year. Only four SEC teams—Kentucky, Missouri, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State—spent less on football than Tennessee during 2014-15.
 
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Top Gun said:
If CBJ hires a QB coach for all that young talent he has we will be on our way.
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Will someone please start a petition to hire a QB coach? I know it may seem silly to some, but it will be noticed and possibly even have an effect. You never know unless you try!
 
#46
#46
It's a business. The CEO wants to be king for as long as possible. And the only way you stay the king is to keep winning. If that means a $100M/yr company has to hire a few $200-300k VP's, who cares. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the money made, and it's smart investing if it keeps the team winning and revenues up. Losing teams don't make piles of cash. Success breeds success. Saban knows recruits are the lifeblood, keep them coming to either enhance your team or simply deny them to opponents and you will continue to succeed. So hire whoever is necessary to maximize the potential of your recruits. Saban has simply applied the C suite mentality to college football, which was already prevalent in the NFL. There is so much money at stake it's the natural and necessary evolution for any program that wants to be relevant. I don't think it bodes well for the college football fan experience but it's the direction we're headed.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
I laughed. Hope it's not true.
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I only laughed. He knows his teams have to win. Our offense last year was the best it has been in years. It it fails because of the scheme, he and his coaches will be out the door. He has replaced an OC a DC and another coach or two in the last 2-3 years. In the past, we did have a coach or two who refused to fire coaches who were not producing. Those coaches were fired. CBJ doesn't appear to be one of those. Posters need to get real with their posts.
 
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