Why dont fans support this program no matter how bad the times get?

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rusty11 said:
At this point the 2000 version of Nick Saban would be run out of town on a rail if he lost more than 2 games in year 3. I say the 2000 version because he had yet to win anything. I'm sure the 2007 version was being ripped by Bama fans and being called washed up because they lost to Louisiana's version of Georgia State. He is at Bama, the well wasn't dry and they have their history. Why anybody would want to go to school in Tuscaloosa over Knoxville is a mystery to me, but it seems that the best teams are in the worst places for whatever reason.
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Except the 2008 version of Saban had them in the SEC Championship; his second year.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Please, in 20002 Saban went 8-4, 5-3 in the SEC. Pruitt is in his third year after going 3-7, with an overall record of 16-19, with horrible losses to the likes of Georga State, BYU, Kentucky, and Arkansas.

The situations couldn't be any more different than they are at right now.
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It kills me after all the fails these guys still bring up Saban; and Dabo is about as bad.
 
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rusty11 said:
At this point the 2000 version of Nick Saban would be run out of town on a rail if he lost more than 2 games in year 3. I say the 2000 version because he had yet to win anything. I'm sure the 2007 version was being ripped by Bama fans and being called washed up because they lost to Louisiana's version of Georgia State. He is at Bama, the well wasn't dry and they have their history. Why anybody would want to go to school in Tuscaloosa over Knoxville is a mystery to me, but it seems that the best teams are in the worst places for whatever reason.
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This is asinine. What was Saban’s longest losing streak his 3rd season? How many of those losses were by 20 or more?
 
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Noggin said:
Why do so many fans have to be fair weather fans and only support a program when they are winning? I think if you are a VFL you will support this team and program no matter how many games they win.
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If you’ve been a fan for the last 15 years of losing, I don’t see anyway you could be labeled a fair weather fan...... losing get old year after year after year
 
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The fact that fans still care is support. Have carried this program on its back it has made bad decision after bad decision. CJP loses to Ga St and it still showed up in support. Maybe the fans are tired of constantly creating new historic lows. Asking for 8 wins a year more often than we get 5 is too much? Fans aren't expecting Atlanta every year anymore, we just want a coach that is competent and fields a competitive football team doesnt get blown out every weekend.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Is that like an escape goat, or pocket presents?
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Perhaps.

Some general ramblings: It seems that "panty waste" is something that these "clap louder, smile harder, and don't you dare criticize the performance of the program, and it will all be ok at some undefined point in the future" types have to bleach out of their wadded delicates when someone happens to point out shortcomings of a coach or problems with the program. The majority of us are all generally passionate about the UT athletic program but what's even more entertaining is the crew of self-appointed hall monitors of fanhood frothing and flipping out when individuals don't march in lockstep with the company line. If reminders that something is rotten in the halls of the UTAD annoy them so, why not scroll past and move on to other discussions on this forum for discussion instead of acting like the product of an unholy union between a bitter schoolmarm and Baghdad Bob? On the positive side, their doing so is free (and amusing) entertainment!
 
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hog88 said:
This is asinine. What was Saban’s longest losing streak his 3rd season? How many of those losses were by 20 or more?
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That's why I said "if". Yes, he's the greatest coach ever, but UT is different from those schools he did coach at. He was pretty mediocre when LSU hired him away from Michigan State. You are speaking of what actually transpired. I'm talking about our attitude regarding the situation this year. It was an all SEC schedule, we don't have much depth, we have serious QB issues that if fixed will change everything. The defense can't play the whole game and perform well. Do I think Priutt is the answer? I don't know...It seems to me that Covid did effect us more than other schools. Remember there was little to no Spring practice, and little to no camp for many players. The teams that we should have beaten had more experienced players because they don't get to leave early for the NFL, etc. and beating us is still a big deal to them. We didn't get blown out by UK, we beat ourselves. Every time I hear we got blown out by Kentucky, I laugh as we had 2 pick 6's and they did have a good defense with more experience. I'm as disappointed as anybody, and I'm in my 50's, so grew up while UT was a joke. It took Majors 9 seasons to win the SEC and had we fired him before then, or in the middle of 1988, then we wouldn't even be complaining about how we used to be good and we've sucked for so long. We are going to have to stick with somebody eventually for more than 3 to 5 years. I betcha UGA will be firing Kirby within 2 years if he doesn't win a natty. That will be good for us. Mullen may leave UF for the NFL. We're in a tough spot as everybody is better than they were back in the 90's. We barely beat most teams back then, we just managed to win and that's why we are so spoiled.
 
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rusty11 said:
That's why I said "if". Yes, he's the greatest coach ever, but UT is different from those schools he did coach at. He was pretty mediocre when LSU hired him away from Michigan State. You are speaking of what actually transpired. I'm talking about our attitude regarding the situation this year. It was an all SEC schedule, we don't have much depth, we have serious QB issues that if fixed will change everything. The defense can't play the whole game and be perform well. Do I think Priutt is the answer? I don't know...It seems to me that Covid did effect us more than other schools. Remember there was little to no Spring practice, and little to no camp for many players. The teams that we should have beaten had more experienced players because they don't get to leave early for the NFL, etc. and beating us is still a big deal to them. We didn't get blown out by UK, we beat ourselves. Every time I hear we got blown out by Kentucky, I laugh as we had 2 pick 6's and they did have a good defense with more experience. I'm as disappointed as anybody, and I'm in my 50's, so grew up while UT was a joke. It took Majors 9 seasons to win the SEC and had we fired him before then, or in the middle of 1988, then we wouldn't even be complaining about how we used to be good and we've sucked for so long. We are going to have to stick with somebody eventually for more than 3 to 5 years. I betcha UGA will be firing Kirby within 2 years if he doesn't win a natty. That will be good for us. Mullen may leave UF for the NFL. We're in a tough spot as everybody is better than they were back in the 90's. We barely beat most teams back then, we just managed to win and that's why we are so spoiled.
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Good grief the excuses and defeatist attitude is amazing.
 
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Always the fans fault. We show up to games at home all the time and we’re fed up with AD acting like they don’t care about on field results. Your gonna see a lot of fan apathy next year if Pruitt returns next year.
 
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I think we have a different interpretation of the concept of “support the team”. To me, there is a distinction to be made between staying loyal and willfully blind trust. If you truly love someone or something, it is your responsibility to call out bad choices in a respectful way. Blindly standing by and saying nothing while that person or organization self destructs is not “support”, it is “enabling” and it leads to destruction
 
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rusty11 said:
That's why I said "if". Yes, he's the greatest coach ever, but UT is different from those schools he did coach at. He was pretty mediocre when LSU hired him away from Michigan State. You are speaking of what actually transpired. I'm talking about our attitude regarding the situation this year. It was an all SEC schedule, we don't have much depth, we have serious QB issues that if fixed will change everything. The defense can't play the whole game and perform well. Do I think Priutt is the answer? I don't know...It seems to me that Covid did effect us more than other schools. Remember there was little to no Spring practice, and little to no camp for many players. The teams that we should have beaten had more experienced players because they don't get to leave early for the NFL, etc. and beating us is still a big deal to them. We didn't get blown out by UK, we beat ourselves. Every time I hear we got blown out by Kentucky, I laugh as we had 2 pick 6's and they did have a good defense with more experience. I'm as disappointed as anybody, and I'm in my 50's, so grew up while UT was a joke. It took Majors 9 seasons to win the SEC and had we fired him before then, or in the middle of 1988, then we wouldn't even be complaining about how we used to be good and we've sucked for so long. We are going to have to stick with somebody eventually for more than 3 to 5 years. I betcha UGA will be firing Kirby within 2 years if he doesn't win a natty. That will be good for us. Mullen may leave UF for the NFL. We're in a tough spot as everybody is better than they were back in the 90's. We barely beat most teams back then, we just managed to win and that's why we are so spoiled.
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Please, show me anything, that is indicative of UT being more adversely affected by Covid than other schools.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Freeze is not coming here. He is poison to every P5 school and will be a targeted by P5 HC’s and the NCAA because of his transgressions going back to his HS career.
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Just stop it...there was not a single accusation against Freeze at Briarcrest until after he was fired by Ole Miss in 2017. The school officials have even said there was no accusations made by anyone.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
Here's the real answer. General Neyland had an undefeated streak of 33 games and 3 undefeated seasons in a row. Then, a decade later, the team was not scored on for an entire regular season. It's incredible. And although he was coaching nearly 100 years ago, fans believe that "because we're Tennessee" this is what we're like.

You'll see a lot of posts here about how Tennessee "shouldn't" lose to somebody like Kentucky, and the reason is "because they're Kentucky and we're Tennessee". It's an entitlement. Entitlement doesn't really work in a fair competition.
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Lol. Current college football is far from this.
 
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BisonVol said:
Criticizing a lousy head coach doesn't equate to being a NegaVol who doesn't support the program.
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Criticizing the head coach is normal on here, free game......where I draw the line is criticizing the Players. Most that do this are punks.
 
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🤣🤣 I knew this would blow up! Maybe a generational thing. A sincere direct question. These are the same ones with the advent of social media, were the ones who knew or cared about it! Used it to call for Fulmers head! Terms "Phil". Disrespectful bunch, name calling immediately upon being questioned.
 
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Noggin said:
Why do so many fans have to be fair weather fans and only support a program when they are winning? I think if you are a VFL you will support this team and program no matter how many games they win.
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I would think caring about UT Football enough to have to come here and voice your frustrations is nothing less than being a huge fan. Matter of fact, please explain to me which fans are the biggest fans. Would it be the ones that loves UT Football so much it's heartbreaking to have to watch this crap week after week and we end up here voicing our opinions? Or, is it the ones that act like they just suppose to support the color orange and doesn't really care enough about winning or losing and settling for mediocrity is accepted? Please do tell, which one is really the fair weather fan?
 
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hog88 said:
Good grief the excuses and defeatist attitude is amazing.
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Dude, I'm not being defeatist, just stating the truth. We were great in a completely different ERA. Alabama was beatable for awhile there, but they won the conference once during that era anyway. UF was our nemesis and we owned UGA, always finding a way to barely win. The SEC has been ruined by Sabin's success. If you can't beat him you will be fired. If you can beat him, you may still be fired. Malzahn beat him 3 times! We play them and don't even have to, so however many games we play, we start every single year with a loss that also contributes to other losses because of the injuries caused by said juggernaut. No shame in that as everybody else can pretty much say same, but every potential coach also sees this and probably thinks no way in hell am I interested in a job where there are 3 or 4 guaranteed losses the first few years and our fan base! The other thing about Bama is the top recruits from outside a school's sphere of influence will go to another conference if they can't go to Bama because they want to be in the CPF. Ohio State, Clemson, Big 12 schools, even Pac 12. LSU has a lot of fans who become players and they happen to be great athletes. Florida has the same setup. We don't have squat as we've been losers to an entire generation. Our row to hoe is much tougher than other traditionally powerhouse schools at this current point in history. We're just going to have to be patient and give Pruitt or the next guy a longer time period. Fire Pruitt, hire somebody else, but if we do hire a big name and pay him 10 million a year and we're 8-5 most season's, then what? I don't want to be right, I want a Natty, but that Natty really set the bar high. Thing's will change and it's really gonna suck if we keep up this cycle with coaches. We will never be in a position to beat UF or UGA until we have a veteran coach and they get another rookie. It will happen, and it will happen because their fans are just like ours. In their case it will be the next level argument...can't wait for us to get there...looking like my life will be over by then.
 
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DougAtkins91 said:
What is your problem with my posts?
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DougAtkins91 said:
You and your attitude bring the program, fans, players, coaches and our Football organization down.
Nobody wants to hear your garbage or your Debbie Downer attitude. Shush and please, go away! “Legion of the Miserables” must go away!
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DougAtkins91 said:
I’ve been done for nearly a decade. After seeing 187 games in a row, in person.
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But this kind of extreme mood swings posting is strange...tbh.
 
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